Wednesday, January 16, 2019


This is incredible! At least we know Pope Francis feels under siege. But wouldn’t an examination of conscience, nasty remarks His Holiness has made about devout practicing Catholics, the division and polarization he has created himself not only in the laity but within the college of bishops and cardinals, the poor cast of characters he has surrounded himself with, the undoing of the good works of his immediate two predecessors and all this beginning that faithful night on the loggia.

Cardinal Kasper, don’t point fingers at angry and appalled practicing Catholics but point to the extremely polarizing Pope Francis. His Holiness has brought this on himself!

I’ve said it before and will say it again, Divine Providence has brought us to this hour to show our current generation what they did not experience in the 1960’s and 70’s as it concerns the devastating effects of liberal, heterodox spirit of Vatican II Catholicism and what radical, anti intellectual liberalism does to the Church! They now know!

German prelate says papal enemies want ‘a new conclave’

German prelate says papal enemies want ‘a new conclave’
Cardinal Walter Kasper, former president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, leaves a session of the Synod of Bishops on the family at the Vatican in this Oct. 6, 2015, file photo. (Credit: Paul Haring/CNS.)
ROME - A German prelate widely considered to be one of Pope Francis’s closest allies has said the current clerical abuse crisis is being used by papal opponents as a platform to expel Francis from the papacy and to elect a new pontiff that suits their agenda.
“There are people who simply don’t like this pontificate. They want it to end as soon as possible to then have, so to say, a new conclave. They also want it to go in their favor, so to it will have a result that suits their ideas,” said German Cardinal Walter Kasper in a new interview.
Kasper, president emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, spoke of Pope Francis and the current clerical sexual abuse crisis in a recent edition of the “Report München” program, broadcast by German state broadcaster ARD.
In the episode, which also features interviews with American Cardinal Raymond Burke and Irish abuse survivor Marie Collins, Kasper argued that there are some camps in the Church that are taking advantage of the abuse crisis as a platform for expelling Francis from the papacy.
Burke was one of four prelates who penned and published five “dubia” - or questions - about Francis’s 2016 post-synodal apostolic exhortation, Amoris Laetitia, which opened a cautious door for divorced and remarried Catholics to receive communion.
At the time, many argued that the document was confusing, ambiguous and difficult to interpret, and while the discussion has died down in the past three years, it has not gone away.
However, quite apart from doctrinal matters, there has also been debate over Francis’s temperament and style of governance, portrayed in Henry Sire’s 2017 book, The Dictator Pope, which cited inside Vatican sources who painted the picture of a moody Pope Francis prone to losing his temper, using vulgar language and seeking control.
In an Aug. 26, 2018, letter published on the last day of Pope Francis’s overnight trip to Dublin for the World Meeting of Families, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, who served as papal envoy to the United States from 2011-2016, accused Pope Francis of ignoring allegations of misconduct against ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, currently under investigation for three charges of abusing minors, and called for the pontiff to resign.
In the immediate aftermath, many naturally sought to verify Viganò’s claims, however, many also questioned the letter’s intent, as it had been published on the tail end of a high-stakes trip for Francis, where he was facing immense pressure over his handling of the abuse crisis in Ireland after a summer of fresh scandals in the U.S. with the publication of the Pennsylvania Grand Jury Report and the revelations of abuse and misconduct allegations against McCarrick.
An odd mix of righteous indignation, seemingly hard facts, personal innuendo and ideological undertones, calling out a so-called “gay lobby” inside the Vatican, Viganò’s letter succeeded in discrediting Pope Francis on the abuse issue for some, particularly among American Catholics.
In his comments on ARD, Kasper said papal opponents are using an “inappropriate” strategy of turning the discussion on the abuse issue “into a discussion about Pope Francis,” which he said amounts to “an abuse of abuse.”
“This diverts attention from the real problem, and this is the bad part of it,” Kapser said, adding that to turn the discussion into one on the Francis pontificate “is distracting us” from focusing on more important matters, such as developing better “means of prevention” when it comes to protecting minors from abuse.


TJM said...

Kasper is a Lutheran at best, an agnostic most likely.

Dan said...

And that TJM explains why he is such a favorite of Francis.

Victor said...

Caught lying about his view of Africans, Kasper seemed like a white supremacist, castigating Africans as if they were ignorant savages who had nothing of benefit to offer the superior white Teutonic church of Germany. Sorry to say this, but he has little or nothing of benefit to contribute to the Church hierarchy anymore and needs to retire from public view ASAP.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

As I look at the article again, what is important to keep in mind is that Kasper is actually speaking about other cardinals and bishops, not the laity. Of course you can't force a pope to resign as it would invalidate the resignation or renunciation. This then begs the questions, what kind of pressure was Pope Benedict experiencing? Did it affect his decision making faculties and did he ever expect Jorge Bergolio to follow him?

Pope Benedict needs to come clean about everything and I mean everything from McCarrick to Vigano to Bergolio and beyond. I hope he does or at least has put things into writing to be seen after his death.

I still contend that there is a reason according to Divine Providence that Pope Benedict is still alive and I think there's enough Ratzinger still in his to be the Rottweiler we need now.

Anonymous said...

"This then begs the questions, what kind of pressure was Pope Benedict experiencing?"

No, it does not "beg the question." It "raises the question," which you then go on to ask, "...what kind of pressure was Pope Benedict experiencing?"

"Not long ago, I gently noted (again) our frequent misuse of the phrase “beg the question.” I pointed out that in precise usage, it does not mean “to raise the question” or “to beg that the question be asked” or even “to evade the question.” Rather, it refers to a circular argument; it means “to use an argument that assumes as proved the very thing one is trying to prove.” Phillip Corbett, NYTimes, 25 September 2008

Dan said...

Personally, I think Benedict sees what is happening (including his resignation) as a playing out of spiritually necessary events. Prophetic fulfillment if you will...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, what are you? Some kind of idiom? I beg you to stop correcting people.

Anonymous said...

What am I?

A voice crying out in the wilderness...

ByzRus said...

Dan @ 8:59, I've had that same thought.

John Nolan said...

For once, Anonymous is right on a question of definition. 'Begging the question' is a (bad) translation of the logical fallacy 'petitio principii'. Has he taken my advice and acquired a copy of Fowler?

Anonymous said...

For "once"?


Anonymous said...

John, as always you make solid, well-spoken comment and you even acknowledged that “Anonymous” was correct. If this Anon is who we think he is (yes, a “he”), we know he will always have a snarky last word. No matter the issue under discussion, he will have the last word. It’s his badly-formed, poorly-spoken personal style. You know him better than I. And I know that you know not to be affected in the least. I only say this because newbies to this site do not yet know.

TJM said...

Anonymous at 9:44,

I guess "anonymous you know who" writes that way because he was a science major!!! Also, he is an example of clericalism on steroids

Dan said...

Speaking of snarky, maybe Anonymous could begin calling himself "Snark Thomas."

TJM said...


I think you mean "Snark Michael."

Anonymous said...

Pointing out facts to those who do not care for them is perceived as "snarky."


TJM said...

Sad that Kavanaugh uses "Anonymous" when he wants to snark.

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

I don't know if you have seen this, but it isn't a flattering commentary on PF's political acumen:

John Nolan said...

The Snark is an imaginary creature devised by Lewis Carroll in 'The Hunting of the Snark' (1876).

'They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care;
They pursued it with forks and hope;
They threatened its life with a railway-share;
They charmed it with smiles and soap.'

That it can also be a snide or sarcastic comment or someone who makes the same is an informal North American usage which has yet to cross the pond. Sooner or later it must, as there is no English equivalent. Mutual enrichment?