I copy this from Rorate Caeli. This is our hope and yes, and whatever way you answer will either make or break the Catholic Church—but a faithful remnant will always remain and united to the pope, despite the way that pope may answer:
Mosebach on Benedict
The following appeared originally in German at Die Tagepost on January 3, 2023.
According to the Frankfurt best-selling author Martin Mosebach, it will turn out that Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, who died on Saturday, "recognized and named with astuteness precisely the conflict" that will form the "necessary and most important theme" of the internal Church debate: "Is the Church forever committed to the tradition of the evangelists, the apostles, martyrs, and Church Fathers, or can it break that commitment and discover other ever-new sources of revelation? Does Vatican II mark the beginning of a break with tradition or does it stand in that tradition and want to continue it without a break?" In response to a question from this newspaper, Mosebach commented thus on the impact of the emeritus beyond his death.
"This struggle will determine the near future".
The Büchner Prize-winner speaks of an antagonism between a "hermeneutics of rupture" and a "hermeneutics of reform," as Benedict had called it. "This struggle will determine the near future," Mosebach said. At the same time, the 71-year-old acknowledges that the "long bitter period after the abdication" of Pope Benedict XVI and before his death left the impression "that this pontificate was a great failure." Benedict, he said, appeared at the time of his death as a last man "who awkwardly and with unsuitable means waged a futile defensive struggle against a new creation of the Church demanded by the times."
Respectful praise for the "great theologian" and the modern "Father of the Church" who, with his life's theme of "faith and reason," offensively met the challenge of post-Christian modernity, would hardly conceal "the disappointment of those who were devoted to him and even less the malice and denunciation of his numerous enemies, especially German ones."
Against this view Mosebach holds that even if Benedict XVI had been the underdog, he had nevertheless formulated the decision that no Catholic, cleric or layman will be able to avoid: "Do I believe that the Church of the Apostles, the Martyrs and Fathers is the Church of Jesus Christ, or do I believe that this ancient Church has perished and that the Holy Spirit is now manifesting itself in the spirit of the age?" When the "fumes of the present confusion" are cleared away, the writer said, Benedict's call for decision [on this matter] will become visible as "the real and imperishable achievement of his pontificate."
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"According to the Frankfurt best-selling author Martin Mosebach, it will turn out that Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, who died on Saturday, "recognized and named with astuteness precisely the conflict" that will form the "necessary and most important theme" of the internal Church debate:
"Is the Church forever committed to the tradition of the evangelists, the apostles, martyrs, and Church Fathers, or can it break that commitment and discover other ever-new sources of revelation?
"Does Vatican II mark the beginning of a break with tradition or does it stand in that tradition and want to continue it without a break?"
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It is interesting that Peter Kwasniewski posted the above story on Rorate Caeli. The reason is that Peter Kwasniewski, as well as New Catholic (Rorate Caeli), have insisted that Vatican II has broken with Holy Tradition.
Peter Kwasniewski, as well as New Catholic (Rorate Caeli), have rejected Pope Benedict XVI's teaching in question.
That is, in line with his Vatican II Era predecessors, as well as Pope Francis, Pope Benedict XVI insisted that Vatican II is in line with Holy Tradition.
Peter Kwasniewski, New Catholic, as well as one "traditionalist" after another, have insisted that they favored Pope Benedict XVI.
However, Peter Kwasniewski, New Catholic, as well as one "traditionalist" after another, have waged war against Pope Benedict XVI...against Vatican II, the Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI...
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Mark, Cardinal Hollerich who is Pope Francis Jesuit pick to head the Synod on the synod dissents from Vatican II and recent Vatican corrections—a Cardinal. I think we all can have dissenting views of Vatican II and current Vatican directives if Pope Francis allow a Cardinal to do so, a Jesuit cardinal at that:
In an interview with Vatican media, Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich said he believes Church blessings for same-sex unions, which the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has ruled against, is not a settled matter.
The cardinal’s answer came in response to an interview question about the decision last month by Belgium’s Catholic bishops to support the possibility of blessings for unions of same-sex couples — in defiance of the Vatican.
The Holy Mass of Paul VI? You mean the Mass which only a paltry number of Catholics bother to attend (the numbers in Europe make the American Church look booming) and less than one third of those who bother to go believe in the Real Presence? Do you ever connect the dots?
MT your hyperbole convinces no one except yourself
"Do I believe that the Church of the Apostles, the Martyrs and Fathers is the Church of Jesus Christ, or do I believe that this ancient Church has perished and that the Holy Spirit is now manifesting itself in the spirit of the age?"
The latter part of this sentence sounds analogous to the formation of a cult.
MT,
Still trying to connect the dots?
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