Throughout the decades, liberals and "traditionalists" heaped tremendous abuse upon Pope Benedict XVI/Cardinal Ratzinger.
Liberals labeled him a "right-wing reactionary...aloof from the Holy People of God...turned back the clock..."
Father McDonald, you view His Holiness as having turned back the clock to the 1970s. Liberals viewed Pope Benedict XVI as having turned back the clock to the 1770s.
"Traditionalists," such as Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX, and fellow travelers, insisted that Pope Benedict XVI/Cardinal Ratzinger was a modernist...had lost the faith...couldn't be trusted.
In regard to his having resigned as Pope, "traditionalists" have labeled Cardinal Ratzinger a "coward, gutless...he abandoned his flock...heretic."
He has had abuse heaped upon him by the Church's two extremes.
You are a broken record. Quite simply, you do not know what you are talking about. If you have read Veterum Sapientia you would know that St. John XXIII decreed that “Latin is the language that joins the Church of today.” What does that have to do with the 1770s?
I remember the morning after Ratzinger's election (which had been announced the previous evening). The BBC trotted out the usual establishment Catholics and their dismay was evident. Lavinia Byrne, an ex-nun and advocate of women's ordination, was beside herself. 'He's got to show he's prepared to listen to us!' she bleated. In the next few days one mainstream liberal after another came forward to voice his or her disappointment.
These were not MT's extreme left-wingers. They represented the main opinion-formers in the post-V2 Church. They may have already suspected that their influence was waning, but it was still considerable.
Traditionalists, on the other hand, felt that the tide had begun to turn. A new generation of scholars, not least in the field of liturgy, were questioning the liberal nostrums which had held sway for so long. Benedict XVI represented a new-found optimism. There were of course some extreme sedevacantists who regarded him as a modernist, but then they had accepted no pope since Pius XII. To assume, as MT does, that they had any influence is yet another exercise in false equivalence.
When Benedict goes, PF will no doubt mumble a Novus Ordo Mass in Latin for his 'official' funeral. But up and down the country there will be sung Requiem Masses in the old Rite for a beloved Pontiff. Then we shall be putting his successor under renewed scrutiny.
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It would be appropriate that they use the EF for the Pope who saved the Liturgy from the loonies and failures
Throughout the decades, liberals and "traditionalists" heaped tremendous abuse upon Pope Benedict XVI/Cardinal Ratzinger.
Liberals labeled him a "right-wing reactionary...aloof from the Holy People of God...turned back the clock..."
Father McDonald, you view His Holiness as having turned back the clock to the 1970s. Liberals viewed Pope Benedict XVI as having turned back the clock to the 1770s.
"Traditionalists," such as Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX, and fellow travelers, insisted that Pope Benedict XVI/Cardinal Ratzinger was a modernist...had lost the faith...couldn't be trusted.
In regard to his having resigned as Pope, "traditionalists" have labeled Cardinal Ratzinger a "coward, gutless...he abandoned his flock...heretic."
He has had abuse heaped upon him by the Church's two extremes.
Put simply, Cardinal Ratinger is a man of God.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT
You are a broken record. Quite simply, you do not know what you are talking about. If you have read Veterum Sapientia you would know that St. John XXIII decreed that “Latin is the language that joins the Church of today.” What does that have to do with the 1770s?
I remember the morning after Ratzinger's election (which had been announced the previous evening). The BBC trotted out the usual establishment Catholics and their dismay was evident. Lavinia Byrne, an ex-nun and advocate of women's ordination, was beside herself. 'He's got to show he's prepared to listen to us!' she bleated. In the next few days one mainstream liberal after another came forward to voice his or her disappointment.
These were not MT's extreme left-wingers. They represented the main opinion-formers in the post-V2 Church. They may have already suspected that their influence was waning, but it was still considerable.
Traditionalists, on the other hand, felt that the tide had begun to turn. A new generation of scholars, not least in the field of liturgy, were questioning the liberal nostrums which had held sway for so long. Benedict XVI represented a new-found optimism. There were of course some extreme sedevacantists who regarded him as a modernist, but then they had accepted no pope since Pius XII. To assume, as MT does, that they had any influence is yet another exercise in false equivalence.
When Benedict goes, PF will no doubt mumble a Novus Ordo Mass in Latin for his 'official' funeral. But up and down the country there will be sung Requiem Masses in the old Rite for a beloved Pontiff. Then we shall be putting his successor under renewed scrutiny.
Pope Benedict has really aged in that photo.
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