I should have indicated that when I worked for Macy's in the 1970's they allowed different names for their stores according to regions. In Georgia, they had acquired many years earlier Davison/Paxon which then simply became Davison's. But my paycheck said "Macy's".
Davision's especially in Atlanta and downtown was a major competitor with Rich's which sadly was then acquired by Macy's in the 90's or early 2000's. The Rich's name is gone with the wind as is the Davison's name.
In Augusta, Davison's major competitor was JB White's before Rich's arrived there. White's was purchased by another retailer and is now Dillard's sadly enough! White's was a great local southern department store!
What to say? Such arrangements have been mainstreamed. To your question, I think one just has to decide what not to participate in and/or patronize to the extent things like this are inconsistent with one's belief system. Those that embrace such arrangements would likely do the same relative to beliefs that are contrary to their own.
At one time you could tell men’s from women’s pajamas by whether the buttons were sewn on the right (men) or left (women) of the front closure. I suppose with these pajamas you have the additional choice of putting it in the back.
Who cares? If people want to destroy themselves with false beliefs that end in disaster, then even God doesn't stop them. We should imitate Our Lord. We should counsel them when we are able about their bad choices with gentle love and a spirit of love for our lost brothers, but let them have their own free will.
Also notice God does not assist them in their evil choices toward the death of their soul. Neither should we.
Having one parent can work out, but I suspect your parents weren't gay or lesbian and flounted that lifestyle. Also, if you have an extended family, like grandparents, aunt and uncles, and cousins that may also explain how well turned out. All things being equal, a child is generally better off with both a mother and mother, provided they are decent people who love you first and not themselves.
Homosexual men in a civil marriage adopting or through artificial insemination fathering children with a surrogate is new territory in terms of the impact this will have on children. This would have been unheard of even 10 years ago or less.
I have an intuition that there are more same sex inclined men today because of the high divorce rate, or having children out of wedlock. Mothers who have multiple men into their homes on dates also risk the molestation of their sons and daughters by these strangers. And of course incest is not unheard of in heterosexual marriages.
I wonder if same sex attraction by men isn't a result of the lack of a biological father in the home. We know what happens in the African American community where their leaders are admitting that the breakdown of the once strong African American families due to having children out of wedlock does to their boys when they become men and the higher percentage of crime.
I am uncomfortable with two homosexual men raising teenage and young adult boys/men unless they are virtus trained and follow all the recommendations about being around young people!
"I wonder if same sex attraction by men isn't a result of the lack of a biological father in the home."
The gay men I have known have come from "traditional" homes with lots of siblings, from one-parent homes, from homes where a grandmother was the only "parent" they knew, from abusive two-parent homes, and, in one case, from an orphanage in Iowa.
My comment at the beginning is I wonder if there sren’t More today, because of the high divorce rate and the ambivalence of boys to their fathers and loss of fatherly affection because of it, especially if the father is villa mixed in the divorce.
Many of us who grew up without a mother and/or a father are just fine, despite our "rights" being violated.
This is such a fallacious argument! Let's try it out with different clothes, as it were:
"Many of us who grew up without good nutrition are just fine..."
"Many of us who didn't get a good education are just fine..."
"...who were bullied in school...
In other words, the fact that someone turns out "fine" does not mean that the conditions from which that person emerged were likewise "fine." People turn out "fine" from truly horrendous situations -- so we shouldn't bother about making them less horrendous?
Let's try it this way. Do you care what science has to say? There are those who study human history, and those who study psychology, and human development, and so forth. And we have, of course, hundreds of thousands of years of development to study, including the species that presumably preceded humans. Perhaps you don't accept the insights of evolutionary theory; but if you do, wouldn't it seem pretty clear that how humans develop and flourish is a product of ages of evolution; and that the family system -- father, mother, child -- is a fairly complex system? Not to be lightly tampered with?
The arrogance with which we rearrange the pieces willy nilly is breathtaking. Rather like how humanity has treated the natural environment, and whoops! It turns out that reckless human activity can do tremendous damage.
This ad is a lie. It pretends that children come from the stork, delivered to two happy men (or, for lesbians, two women). Children don't really need either a mother or a father, it pretends. It is propaganda.
Now, would you care to make a wager that I can find people who grew up without a mother, or a father, who would tell you different? I am serious in proposing the wager. If you want to make one, we can work out the terms. Let me know.
Lots of kids who had “the right” to both a mother & a father grew up with at least one parent who was an adulterer, an abuser or molester, addicted to booze or drugs or gambling or a parent who simply got up & left & never came back. Pretending that every child in a straight male-female marriage is going to be just swell while kids in a same-sex marriage are just headed to hell is absurd. Put the kids first & place them in happy homes where they’re loved. Spare us your politics.
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But... but.... they're not matching at all!
Black and Red. Whose wants to wear University of Georgia colours on Christmas? Pfffttt!
I should have indicated that when I worked for Macy's in the 1970's they allowed different names for their stores according to regions. In Georgia, they had acquired many years earlier Davison/Paxon which then simply became Davison's. But my paycheck said "Macy's".
Davision's especially in Atlanta and downtown was a major competitor with Rich's which sadly was then acquired by Macy's in the 90's or early 2000's. The Rich's name is gone with the wind as is the Davison's name.
In Augusta, Davison's major competitor was JB White's before Rich's arrived there. White's was purchased by another retailer and is now Dillard's sadly enough! White's was a great local southern department store!
What to say? Such arrangements have been mainstreamed. To your question, I think one just has to decide what not to participate in and/or patronize to the extent things like this are inconsistent with one's belief system. Those that embrace such arrangements would likely do the same relative to beliefs that are contrary to their own.
At one time you could tell men’s from women’s pajamas by whether the buttons were sewn on the right (men) or left (women) of the front closure. I suppose with these pajamas you have the additional choice of putting it in the back.
If you think a child has a right to a mother and a father, you are a hater and a bigot.
Many of us who grew up without a mother and/or a father are just fine, despite our "rights" being violated.
Bee here:
Who cares? If people want to destroy themselves with false beliefs that end in disaster, then even God doesn't stop them. We should imitate Our Lord. We should counsel them when we are able about their bad choices with gentle love and a spirit of love for our lost brothers, but let them have their own free will.
Also notice God does not assist them in their evil choices toward the death of their soul. Neither should we.
God bless.
Bee
Anonymous -
So, you think it is a good thing to deliberately deprive a child of either a mother or a father?
I'll bet the pajamas have the quick drop button-up bottoms,as well. Nice.
Anonymous,
Having one parent can work out, but I suspect your parents weren't gay or lesbian and flounted that lifestyle. Also, if you have an extended family, like grandparents, aunt and uncles, and cousins that may also explain how well turned out. All things being equal, a child is generally better off with both a mother and mother, provided they are decent people who love you first and not themselves.
I meant to say mother and father.
Homosexual men in a civil marriage adopting or through artificial insemination fathering children with a surrogate is new territory in terms of the impact this will have on children. This would have been unheard of even 10 years ago or less.
I have an intuition that there are more same sex inclined men today because of the high divorce rate, or having children out of wedlock. Mothers who have multiple men into their homes on dates also risk the molestation of their sons and daughters by these strangers. And of course incest is not unheard of in heterosexual marriages.
I wonder if same sex attraction by men isn't a result of the lack of a biological father in the home. We know what happens in the African American community where their leaders are admitting that the breakdown of the once strong African American families due to having children out of wedlock does to their boys when they become men and the higher percentage of crime.
I am uncomfortable with two homosexual men raising teenage and young adult boys/men unless they are virtus trained and follow all the recommendations about being around young people!
"I wonder if same sex attraction by men isn't a result of the lack of a biological father in the home."
The gay men I have known have come from "traditional" homes with lots of siblings, from one-parent homes, from homes where a grandmother was the only "parent" they knew, from abusive two-parent homes, and, in one case, from an orphanage in Iowa.
My comment at the beginning is I wonder if there sren’t More today, because of the high divorce rate and the ambivalence of boys to their fathers and loss of fatherly affection because of it, especially if the father is villa mixed in the divorce.
Villainized dang auto correct
Anonymous said...
Many of us who grew up without a mother and/or a father are just fine, despite our "rights" being violated.
This is such a fallacious argument! Let's try it out with different clothes, as it were:
"Many of us who grew up without good nutrition are just fine..."
"Many of us who didn't get a good education are just fine..."
"...who were bullied in school...
In other words, the fact that someone turns out "fine" does not mean that the conditions from which that person emerged were likewise "fine." People turn out "fine" from truly horrendous situations -- so we shouldn't bother about making them less horrendous?
Let's try it this way. Do you care what science has to say? There are those who study human history, and those who study psychology, and human development, and so forth. And we have, of course, hundreds of thousands of years of development to study, including the species that presumably preceded humans. Perhaps you don't accept the insights of evolutionary theory; but if you do, wouldn't it seem pretty clear that how humans develop and flourish is a product of ages of evolution; and that the family system -- father, mother, child -- is a fairly complex system? Not to be lightly tampered with?
The arrogance with which we rearrange the pieces willy nilly is breathtaking. Rather like how humanity has treated the natural environment, and whoops! It turns out that reckless human activity can do tremendous damage.
This ad is a lie. It pretends that children come from the stork, delivered to two happy men (or, for lesbians, two women). Children don't really need either a mother or a father, it pretends. It is propaganda.
Now, would you care to make a wager that I can find people who grew up without a mother, or a father, who would tell you different? I am serious in proposing the wager. If you want to make one, we can work out the terms. Let me know.
LOL! You misspelled ‘Vanilla”.
Lots of kids who had “the right” to both a mother & a father grew up with at least one parent who was an adulterer, an abuser or molester, addicted to booze or drugs or gambling or a parent who simply got up & left & never came back. Pretending that every child in a straight male-female marriage is going to be just swell while kids in a same-sex marriage are just headed to hell is absurd. Put the kids first & place them in happy homes where they’re loved. Spare us your politics.
"Spare us your politics." Yes please do Kanavan.
Is Kanavan Kavanaugh's new nom de plume?
Kanavan said:
"Pretending that every child in a straight male-female marriage is going to be just swell..."
Who makes that claim? Name names, please.
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