Sunday, December 2, 2018


Press the title for this complete long article. You won’t agree with all the laity’s responses or proposals, but that’s what they’re thinking:

Prayer and conversation with Bishop W. Shawn McKnight


Jefferson City Diocese
December 2018

Approximately 500 attended one of six listening sessions in the Diocese between Oct. 28 and Nov. 6, 2018, to provide an opportunity for Catholics to respond to the proposed agenda for the fall November 2018 US Conference of Catholic Bishops’ General Assembly. In addition, people were encouraged to submit answers in writing or via email.

The text below has names and other personal information removed, and has been edited for clarity, while still honoring the authors’ primary points. Four reflection questions were offered, and speakers were advised to explain which question they were addressing. Readers will quickly recognize this advice was not always followed. The responses are not organized in any other way.

How can the bishops rebuild trust in their leadership, both among Catholics and others?

We need for all bishops to be 100 percent transparent in what’s being done. We need to be well informed and very open about what rules are being changed, what is happening. 

Would say I don’t believe bishops should be put out on their own. I think they should be sent to where they spend their whole days praying about why they did what they did if they’re guilty of these things. I think they should definitely be found guilty before they’re chastised. And I know that’s not always easy. It’s easy to accuse someone 35 years later. I’ve seen that happen to innocent people. I’ve seen it happen to guilty people. So I would like to make sure that those who are chastised are truly guilty of having committed these heinous things. Thank you.

We have not been catechized properly in terms of sexuality. I would respectfully ask the bishop to always promote the teachings of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. There is a wealth of knowledge in it that we just don’t know.


Dan said...

Reading through the article, I realized that the Church can't restore my trust until the hierarchy actually starts exhibiting some holiness and courage and is through with political correctness and pandering to the culture.

When was the last time anyone ever heard of a bishop defending a parish priest that made parishioners feel "uncomfortable" when expressing the actual teachings of the Church in a sermon?

When was the last time anyone ever heard the actual teachings of the Church in a sermon?

Anonymous said...

Dan, Michael Voris hit the nail on the head with his description of "The Church of Nice"

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

Does that mean that we should be "The Church of Mean?????????????"

Dan said...

Be nice if we were the Church of clarity and truth.... but hey one has to actually believe someone is in danger of losing a "soul," and that there are certain actions that a "god" doesn't like, and that the Church's role is to save "souls."

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

When the Church teaches the truth, in charity, it is deemed "mean" to perverts and miscreants who demand that Christ be made over into their image and likeness, and if that does not happen, they screech that the Church is not being "pastoral." They want Christ without the Cross.

Anonymous said...

Bee here:

"When was the last time anyone ever heard the actual teachings of the Church in a sermon?"

Me. This morning. And every time I attend Mass at St. John Cantius in Chicago. :-)

God bless.

TJM said...


You are fortunate to be attending one of the few remaining Catholic parishes in Chicago. The vast majority of the "Catholic" parishes there are de facto Protestant