It is a disgusting practice that needs to cease! Intinction described by the National Chismatic Reporter is the way to go!
Copied from the Deacon’s Bench:
CORONAVIRUS FEAR: IS A SHARED COMMUNION CUP HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH?
With the coronavirus in the headlines, and parishes taking some steps to prevent the spread of germs, is the chalice really that dangerous?
I was curious, so did a little Googling.
One of the earliest newspaper articles I found was from The Washington Post in 1980:
Is holy communion from a common cup hazardous to your health?“There’s not a priest in the world who hasn’t had that thought,” said the Rev. Jack Woodard of the Episcopal Church of St. Stephen and the Incarnation in the District of Columbia.The American Medical Association hedges on the issue: “As far as we know, there have been no cases of transmission of germs to communicants using a common cup. The alcoholic content of the wine, plus the hygienic practice of wiping the cup and turning it to a new position for each communicant seems to remove any danger of disease.”But the national Center for Disease Control in Atlanta says there are some dangers.“We believe that there are risks, albeit small, of disease transmission from a common vessel used for religious communion,” says George F. Mallison, assistant director of the Center’s Bacterial Diseases Division.“In addition to syphilitic lesions of the mouth . . . mononucleosis . . . also presumably could be transmitted by a common cup. In addition, mumps, some acute respiratory infections and herpes virus infections [cold sores] can be spread by virus in saliva of carriers, and Vincent’s angina [which causes trenchmouth] also might be spread,” he said.
NCR weighed in on the subject in 2018:
One medical doctor colleague who served as a minister of the cup told us of his experience after all the people had communicated. He consumed the remaining Precious Blood. Not long afterward he came down with mononucleosis. He could think of no other reason for contracting mono than his experience of drinking the remains of the cup. Whether our friend’s analysis is correct or not, it discouraged him from being a communion minister and drinking from the cup.A church organist told us she stopped receiving the Blood of Christ years ago when she found she was frequently getting sick with upper respiratory infections. One of our communion ministers of the cup recounted that at the end of communion when she looked into the cup with particles floating around and remembering all the people who have sipped, it turned her stomach. She would no longer serve as a communion minister because she said “what should be uplifting is gross.”Why do more than 50 percent of Catholics after receiving the consecrated host hesitate to drink from the same cup at liturgy? Health! Most medical people would advise against the congregation drinking from the same cup.Some people suggest that the alcohol in the wine protects the drinker. Unfortunately, the low alcohol content of the wine is not antiseptic. A swab from the cup and onto a nutrient petri dish would prove the point to the most devout communicant.
The NCR writers suggested an alternative: intinction, which is acceptable under USCCB norms:
Distribution of the Precious Blood by a spoon or through a straw is not customary in the Latin dioceses of the United States of America.Holy Communion may be distributed by intinction in the following manner: “Each communicant, while holding a Communion-plate under the mouth, approaches the Priest who holds a vessel with the sacred particles, with a minister standing at his side and holding the chalice. The Priest takes a host, intincts it partly in the chalice and, showing it, says: ‘The Body and Blood of Christ.’ The communicant replies, ‘Amen,’ receives the Sacrament in the mouth from the Priest, and then withdraws.”The communicant, including the extraordinary minister, is never allowed to self-communicate, even by means of intinction. Communion under either form, bread or wine, must always be given by an ordinary or extraordinary minister of Holy Communion.
5 comments:
"The American Medical Association hedges on the issue: “As far as we know, there have been no cases of transmission of germs to communicants using a common cup. The alcoholic content of the wine, plus the hygienic practice of wiping the cup and turning it to a new position for each communicant seems to remove any danger of disease.”
This is not "hedging." It may sound like that to a person unfamiliar with how science and scientists work, but it is not "hedging." It is epistemic humility. "Epistemic humility refers to a posture of scientific observation rooted in the recognition that (a) knowledge of the world is always interpreted, structured, and filtered by the observer, and that, as such, (b) scientific pronouncements must be built on the recognition of observation's inability to grasp the world in itself."
Saying "as far as we know" stands in stark contrast to the great company of bombasts that surrounds us who hold forth of topics they know little or nothing about, offering opinions and dictums on matters they have researched for a total of twenty-three minutes via Google.
Epistemic humility is a good thing.
You miss the point, Mike! What you quote: "The American Medical Association hedges on the issue: “As far as we know, there have been no cases of transmission of germs to communicants using a common cup. The alcoholic content of the wine, plus the hygienic practice of wiping the cup and turning it to a new position for each communicant seems to remove any danger of disease,” is from 1980 and clearly out of date. The subsequent information in Deacon Kendra's post shows that and shows it quite clearly.
And this garbage about epistemic humility? Give us a break!
“Mike” will never admit to error as humility is not part of his character.
"And this garbage about epistemic humility? Give us a break!"
Actually, it's not garbage. It's the way science and scientists work.
Before most taverns can reuse a glass they must first wash the glass with detergent, rinse, dip into disinfectant, and allow to air dry. It’s the tested health protocol for places that have a large turnover of glassware. Places that go the extra mile to clean glassware use an automated dishwasher which uses extremely hot water. Have a bartender play the role of “extraordinary bartender” and take the glass from one patron, wipe its rim, and give it to the next patron. Then repeat for the length of the bar. Just for giggles call your health inspector to tell them what you did. Bye bye license.
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