The triumphalism and majesty of the Church’s traditional liturgy is not self-referential or a negative triumphalism, it points to the majesty of Christ crucified and Risen, the Kingdom of Heaven, already and not yet. It points to the hope of all miserable sinners mired in the ordinariness of original and actual sin and the humdrum world of banalities.
The Church’s traditional liturgy is a light, reflecting the triumphant Light of Christ and a lighthouse to show us where to take the right road to heaven during this earthly sojourn.
King Charles and Queen Camilla’s coronation liturgy is a powerful sacramental sign of the majesty of the Kingdom of heaven with our true King and Queen, Jesus and Mary.
The Traditional Nuptial Mass is like a coronation too! You can view about 70 photos of a stunning Nuptial Mass where he celebrated the TLM Nuptial Liturgy. You can see all the photos at this Facebook Post wich you can view HERE. This is a Pontifical Latin Mass Wedding with Bishop Athanasius Schneider!
I don’t know this couple, but their wedding photos are stunning. This is the older, ancient form of the Nuptial Mass. Like the Anglican Coronation Eucharist, there is majesty, pomp and a taste of the Kingdom of Heaven which the wedding liturgy signifies. In this form of the Nuptial Mass, there are no banalities, no hooping and hollering or applause at the recessional or at any time during the Nuptial Mass.
Here are a few photos in random order. These are glorious. But the Facebook page has more than 70 in total!
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One of the "servers" wearing a cassock seemd to have an amice on under the surplice. Never seen that before...?
Yes, that is strange! There is a photo of the invitation and the wedding was at Holy Guardian Angel’s Church in Reading, PA.
PF and The Roche will be grieved that Catholicism is surviving notwithstanding their corrupt efforts to extirpate the Faith.
I will worry about a stray amice - never. Many priests still wear their stole over the chasuble - I am more concerned with that!
My wife’s first marriage in a Catholic church (which was annulled less than a decade later) could have been described as lavish and beautiful - though definitely NOT a TLM Nuptial liturgy - was an unusual service with both a Catholic priest and Anglican minister officiating!
If I was to now ask a traditional priest, qualified in Canon Law : would my wife’s first “marriage” truly even have required an annulment process? What would he answer?
Catholic and Anglican Church teaching on marriage has been messy and complicated, I believe, for over 500 years…
John Nolan’s return to this blog has inspired to me reread a section of an old text:
“Catherine had earlier been married to Henry’s elder brother Arthur, who had died; when Henry married her, in turn, a papal dispensation was required to remove the obstacle of affinity. Henry now claimed this bull was invalid (based on either Leviticus or Deuteronomy?) and on the grounds that that the Pope (Julius II “the warrior pope” ?) had exceeded his powers. In 1527, Catherine, seeking to defend her marriage to Henry, declared that she had never slept with Arthur. But she should have said so in 1503, and the bull would then have been issued on a different basis. Hence the impedimentum publicae honestatis, as Wolsey pointed out. ……Whether Henry would have won his case if he had followed Cardinal Wolsey’s and others line of attack is, however, doubtful. Pope Clement could not afford to grant this annulment/divorce because he could not afford to offend Catherine’s nephew, the powerful Emperor Charles V….”
Further analysis of this whole mess and the complicated interpretations of Canon Law of the divorce - see J J Scarisbrick “Henry VIII”
- a further complication = Henry was proposing to marry Anne Boleyn BUT there were problems with “affinity” here too as Henry on his own admission, had had an affair, sexual relations, with Anne’s sister!
Henry was a monster. I am shocked someone did not off him
Paul asks: "If I was to now ask a traditional priest, qualified in Canon Law: would my wife’s first “marriage” truly even have required an annulment process? What would he answer?"
"Traditional" or not, the priest should answer, "That cannot be determined from the evidence given."
Marriages with the participation of a non-Catholic minister can be valid and are considered so until evidence showing otherwise is presented. The presence of the other minister has no impact on the validity.
The marriage of a Catholic to a non-Catholic in the non-Catholic's church can be valid, with or without the participation of Catholic clergy.
In ALL cases, validity is presumed by the Catholic Church unelss and until there is sufficient evidence to prove otherwise.
Some interesting statistics:
The USA has only 6 per cent of the world's Catholics, but accounts for 60 per cent of the annulments granted worldwide.
Approximately 94 per cent of petitions filed in the USA are granted.
In 1968, in the USA only 338 annulments were granted; in 2006 over 49,000 annulments were granted in the USA.
I think the conclusions that can be made from the above are quite obvious.
In my wife's first marriage, like thousands of other marriages, the annulment was granted by a liberal and fair interpretation of canon 1095.
How many teenagers who married in the 1980s could be rightly said to not have had a complete "psychic capacity" to fully consent to undertake all the essential obligations of marriage? And apart from consent - to even have a full knowledge of all the essential obligations of a Christian marriage, as defined by the Church?
To say nothing of a young man of 19, who was quite immature - and two families applying pressure on a young couple to marry in a Catholic church...
Paul,
My favorite annulment that got reversed is a corker. A good friend of mine who married an ex-nun and had 4 children with her had his marriage annulled when she had an affair with a priest and wanted out of her marriage. She found an annulment mill in another diocese that granted her an annulment under dubious circumstances. She left the Benedictine Sisters at age 32 so she could not claim ignorance or lack of maturity. On her husband’s side there were no canonical impediments. For appearance's sake, she wanted to marry her priest under the guise that her first marriage with four children was not valid. My friend appealed to Rome and the annulment decree was overturned. She was outraged but my friend was happy that this woman was slapped by the highest authority and his children knew fought for the marriage bond
To be more accurate re above: if any two teenagers married in the 80s (or 70s, 90s or any decade) involving Catholic and Anglican families of the young couple; or Catholic boy and Southern Baptist girl etc…and for appearances sake, and there are two families at least strongly superficially Christian and worried what neighbours are saying….pressure the young couple to marry asap in any church, or even especially a Catholic church that allows a Protestant minister to officiate with a Catholic priest….a later annulment is not only justified, but also merciful and reasonable.
By the way, I can highly recommend the Mass of the Ages series; again, I apologise for having the internet/computer skills of a 10 or 12 year old and am thus hopeless with links et al…
Google: either - the liturgy.org/kickstarter OR for example, yet another truly GREAT episode in this series: Google: “Mass of the Ages - Why Peter Kreeft Loves the Traditional Latin Mass”…
No wonder aging hippy liberal prelates can be upset and disturbed by such a series as “Mass of the Ages” and others -
About a dozen reasons for their bizarre overreactions and the irrational nonsense they come out with re such online series:
But mainly I and others believe that:
- increasing numbers of people, ordinary, decent Catholics and even numbers of non Catholics are impressed and often fascinated, by scores of completely sane, emotionally mature, happy, peaceful believers of all ages (and often VERY intelligent and articulate) talking of their love of the traditional Latin Mass, 99% of the time with no hate, no anger, nor any criticism of other Catholics or Christians etc must drive them MAD! Especially as it shows up their dishonest, nasty, insulting criticisms of traditional Latin Mass Catholics to be almost always a pack of uncharitable, pathetic lies.
Some more by the ways:
King Charles III’s father, the late Prince Philip, was baptised according or by
/with a Greek Orthodox rite; when he proposed to Princess Elizabeth, her father, George VI insisted Philip be received into the Anglican Church, ie the C of E, and become a Freemason.
Apparently, Prince Phillip was compliant re joining the good old C of E HOWEVER very VERY little publicity was given when Prince Phillip returned to his Greek Orthodox belief/practice and left the Church of England at the same time the C of E started to ordain women priests.
Again, apparently, or it was reported , Prince Phillip did not take to Freemasonry or the Freemasons did not take to him; it is almost for certain that it was Prince Philip who warned his son, Charles, to give Freemasonry a “wide birth”…
And what is a 100% fact is that it was the Duke of Kent, about 40 or 41st in line for the throne who got the job of being a member of the Royal Family to have the job of being top dog of British Freemasonry…
Sorry, “wide birth” should have been “wide berth” ie Prince Phillip insiders claim strongly advised his son Charles to always steer clear of Freemasonry - please excuse at least occasional lapses in grammar and spelling ….I now am experiencing at least a little of what is politically sorry politely referred to as “chemo fog” or “chemo brain”…
TJM,
A big thanks for your amusing true tale of a wonderfully theologically/Canon Law etc perfectly sound American annulment!😉
At times I think we could swap amusing true stories of the “spirit of THE Council” shenanigans all night !
TJM,
My uncle, a priest, was like thousands before him (including a certain Augustinian monk and priest Fr Martin L) who experienced ecclesiastical culture shock during his first months in Rome, many years ago…
The following written by an ex priest and friend of my uncle describes many annulments in Rome last century, especially after THE Council:
“…..they may be obliged to read the evidence of witnesses who claim to remember with angelic clarity incidents that occurred over 30 years ago. Witnesses memories mature with the years like wine, for frequently they function better a decade after their first testimony……certain low Curial officials and certain priests have to read or listen (with a straight face) politely as Italian petitioners assemble their entire famiglia - brothers, sisters, parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, wet-nurses, cousins several times removed, former lovers, lovers of former lovers -all loyally perjuring themselves to help one of their own out of a matrimonial tangle…”
And as it was said, the saintly Pope John Paul II in the 1990s was claiming that the annulment process in many US dioceses was becoming a farce! JP2 could have witnessed the same “farces” across the street in Roma !
Just when you think things can't get worse in the Church, they can. Here goes:
"The Manhattan Church of St. Paul the Apostle currently hosts a shocking exhibit called “God is Trans: A Queer Spiritual Journey.”
The wildly offensive series of paintings have been placed next to the church’s altar.
The artist described the exhibit as “a queer spiritual journey in three steps: Sacrifice, Identity and Communion.”
Paging Pope Francis, The Roche, and Cardinal Dolan. Where are you? I don't want to hear one damn thing from Rome about the TLM and "unity."
TJM,
So modern “diversity and inclusion” is entering our Church?
A key slogan of the modern Woke cult = “diversity, inclusion, equity” = DIE
QED?
What amazes me and mine is that many that so many of the manifestations of the modern Woke cult (that only 10 to 20 years ago would have been rightly acknowledged and regarded as bat @#@# crazy) have entered politics, the Church, education and even the military etc and so many think this is okay, normal, acceptable and healthy etc…
Has anyone else seen the YouTube clips of non binary drag queens and gender fluid cross dressers promoting recruitment to both the US Navy and the US Marines?
Hey! That’s my wedding! :) Here’s the full video (https://evt.live/claudia-wert-and-william-stover)
Thanks for the video link and abundant blessings on your marriage.
Mrs.Wert - congratulations! When my wife and I married in 1977 we had a Solemn Latin High Mass too! The priest who we did our pre-Cana with did not bat an eye when we asked him if he would do it (priests were nicer then and had not yet hardened their hearts). In 1977 this was a radical request! We never regretted it and many of our family and friends commented that they had nearly forgotten how beautiful and dignified it was.
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