This is a schismatic church in Spain with lots of inculturation in its grand Cathedral. Anyone know anything about this? Is this any worse than what the German synodal way has concocted, but an upside-down version of it?
It certainly is Tridentine, to say the least….
The Christian Palmarian Church of the Carmelites of the Holy Face (Spanish: Iglesia Cristiana Palmariana de los Carmelitas de la Santa Faz), also called the Palmarian Christian Church (Spanish: Iglesia Cristiana Palmariana), the Palmarian Church,[1] or the Palmarian Catholic Church,[2] is an independent Catholic church with an episcopal see in el Palmar de Troya, Spain, founded in 1978 by Clemente Domínguez y Gómez, known as Pope Gregory XVII. The church does not recognize any popes after Paul VI as Catholic, and holds that the Palmarian Christian Church has continued the papacy.
The church regards Pope Paul VI, whom they revere as a martyr, and his predecessors as true popes, but hold, on the grounds of claimed apparitions, that the Pope of Romeis excommunicated and that the position of the Holy Seehas, since 1978, been transferred to their See of El Palmar de Troya.
The current pope is Joseph Odermatt, known as Pope Peter III.
Scholars, journalists and former followers almost universally describe the organization as a cult.[3][4] Members are expected not to watch any films or television, vote or read newspapers.[5] They also engage in heavy shunning of former members and are not allowed to talk to people unrelated to the Palmarian Christian Church.
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But for the disaster of Vatican II, this sect might not exist.
Actually Wikipedia says they accept Pope St. Paul VI and see him as a martyr. But a “vision” told them that all subsequent popes are invalid and Our Lady told them to create this Church in Spain, Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. It is a cult.
New group to me.
Fr McDonald,
If they support Paul VI and pursue traditional Catholicism they are truly confused
Never heard of them.
Their liturgy wasn't unpleasant to watch.
Seemed like there was always a din of some sort in the background.
Founded in 1978. "Scholars, journalists and former followers almost universally describe the organization as a cult. Members are expected not to watch any films or television, vote or read newspapers. They also engage in heavy shunning of former members and are not allowed to talk to people unrelated to the Palmarian Christian Church."
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