I Wonder if Bishop Strickland will soon be made to join the ranks of unassigned bishops like Muller, Burke and Gainswain.
I personally think the good bishop crossed the line, a tad. But let me be the first to imitate Pope Francis’ in his dislike of judgement: “Who am I to judge?”
And who the heck is Patrick Coffin? Did he invent coffins for canceled clergy and laity?
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Father McDonald said..."But let me be the first to imitate Pope Francis’ in his dislike of judgement: “Who am I to judge?"
Pope Francis said: "...who am I to judge him?"
Pope Francis did not say, "Who am I to judge?"
The correct quote and context are vital...otherwise, what remains is the total misrepresentation of Pope Francis' reply in question.
The context of Pope Francis' declaration in question is very clear...and his reply is Catholicism 101.
Journalist Ilze Scamparini asked Pope Francis: "I would like permission to ask a delicate question: another image that has been going around the world is that of Monsignor Ricca and the news about his private life. I would like to know, Your Holiness, what you intend to do about this? How are you confronting this issue and how does Your Holiness intend to confront the whole question of the gay lobby?"
Pope Francis: "About Monsignor Ricca: I did what canon law calls for, that is a preliminary investigation. And from this investigation, there was nothing of what had been alleged. We did not find anything of that.
"But if a person, whether it be a lay person, a priest or a religious sister, commits a sin and then converts, the Lord forgives, and when the Lord forgives, the Lord forgets and this is very important for our lives.
"When we confess our sins and we truly say, “I have sinned in this”, the Lord forgets, and so we have no right not to forget, because otherwise we would run the risk of the Lord not forgetting our sins. That is a danger. This is important: a theology of sin.
"In this case, I conducted the preliminary investigation and we didn’t find anything. This is the first question. Then, you spoke about the gay lobby.
"I believe that when you are dealing with such a person, you must distinguish between the fact of a person being gay and the fact of someone forming a lobby, because not all lobbies are good. This one is not good.
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"If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?"
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A person of good will, who has sought conversion, is on his way to the Lord.
"...then who am I to judge him?"
Catholism 101. Deo gratias for Pope Francis.
Father McDonald, as you are God's holy priest, I am certain of the following:
You, in line with Pope Francis, would not judge a person of good will who, in his quest for conversion, is on his way to the Lord.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Thanks for confirming my premise and that Pope Francis knows that not judging him or her or them is always based upon a person’s goodwill and conversion. Pope Francis I am sure, but who am I to judge him, would apply this mercy to Bishop Strickland as the pope has asked bishops to speak frankly and with courage even to His Holiness.
I am happy to have confirmed that.
Thank you.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Father McDonald said..."I personally think the good bishop crossed the line, a tad."
Father McDonald, the line has been crossed more than a "tad."
Nevertheless, I agree with you in principle that Bishop Strickland has crossed the line. He has crossed into dangerous territory.
Bishop Strickland would do well to imitate Pope Benedict XVI who, upon his resignation as Pope, promised his "unconditional reverence and obedience" to, as it turned out, Pope Francis.
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By the way, Pope Francis, who as Father McDonald noted, has encouraged frank (but constructive) discussion, has insisted that there are boundaries in that regard.
Pope Francis noted that there are circumstances during which criticism of the Pope has crossed the line. That, in turn, has harmed the Church. Pope Francis noted that such is "the work of the devil."
Anyway...
Yes, Bishop Strickland has crossed the line.
Therefore, may Bishop Strickland turn to Pope Benedict XVI to receive inspiration so as to return to the otherside of the line...
...to the side of the line where, in imitation of Pope Benedict XVI, the Holy People of God promise to Pope Francis their "unconditional reverence and obedience."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
In opposition to Bishop Strickland's unfortunate, dangerous, declaration in question, the Holy Catholic Church teaches:
That thanks to the promise of Jesus Christ, in the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been preserved immaculate.
Unfortunately, Bishop Strickland is very confused.
He wishes us to believe that Pope Francis has endangered the Deposit of Faith.
Conversely, when he offers the Divine Liturgy, Bishop Strickland commemorates Pope Francis as our orthodox Pope.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Major barf alert
Bishop Strickland has painted himself into a corner.
In his judgment, Pope Francis is a menace to the Deposit of Faith.
Okay. What is next? What does Bishop Strickland plan to do in regard to his statement in question?
Will Bishop Strickland take concrete action against Pope Francis? Or, is Bishop Strickland just all talk?
"Okay, folks, I have warned you that Pope Francis has undermined the Deposit of Faith. He constitutes a grave danger to the Faith. "But that is that. You are on your own."
"I'll eat a box of Cracker Jack....then call it a day. Do not expect anything else from me"
"See ya!"
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Fr M Donald,
Sorry to nitpick, but you misspelled ‘celery’ in the title to your post.
More barf!
RCG, fixed. Thx
Father McDonald, you said that our Holy Father receives frank chatter from all sides.
You know who also receives frank chatter from all sides? The SSPX.
Here is the latest tweet from Bishop Strickland:
"Bishop J. Strickland
@Bishopoftyler
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"In these troubling times with so much confusion even from Rome it is critical to remain
IN THE CHURCH. Schismatic movements like SSPX or Sedevacantists however well-intended are an injury to the body of Christ."
There you have it.
Bishop Strickland has declared that the SSPX is schismatic. The Society of Saint Pius X has injured the Body of Christ.
Bishop Strickland has joined Cardinals Burke and Müller, and one Catholic after another...such as Michael Voris...in having declared that the SSPX is schismatic.
Pope Francis does not teach that the SSPX is schismatic.
But who am I to judge Bishop Strickland's assessment of the "schismatic" SSPX?
:-)
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Via his latest tweet, Bishop Strickland has declared that the SSPX is guilty of the grave sin of schism.
Bishop J. Strickland
@Bishopoftyler
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"In these troubling times with so much confusion even from Rome it is critical to remain
IN THE CHURCH. Schismatic movements like SSPX or Sedevacantists however well-intended are an injury to the body of Christ."
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The Church does not teach that the SSPX is schismatic. Therefore, is Bishop Strickland's grave charge in question against the SSPX an example of calumny?
From the CCC:
2477: "He becomes guilty: of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
The Church in Tyler, Texas — in particular, Bishop Strickland — is in dire need of an Apostolic Investigation.
Yesterday, Bishop Strickland portrayed Pope Francis as a menace to the Deposit of Faith.
Today, Bishop Strickland charged the SSPX with the grave sin of schism.
Bishop Strickland should have stuck to the truth in regard to the SSPX.
There are serious issues in regard to the SSPX. The SSPX is not in full-communion with the Church.
However, unlike Bishop Strickland, Holy Mother Church has not charged the SSPX with the grave sin of schism.
The above is just the beginning of the false declarations that Bishop Strickland has issued over the years.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Mark Thomas,
Most of us are tired by your unhinged praise of the nasty, unhinged, uncharitable pope. Begone, Satan
Barf, barf
Bishop J. Strickland
@Bishopoftyler
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A correction…as Bishop Schneider has stated, the SSPX is not in schism. The SSPX continues to hold Tradition out for the Universal Church. The Eucharist of the SSPX is held as valid by the Catholic Church. We must turn to Jesus’ Eucharistic face.
In regard to the SSPX, and the issue of schism:
Bishops Schneider, and Strickland, have contradicted Cardinals Burke, and Müller:
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Cardinal Müller: "The canonical excommunication of the bishops for their illegal ordinations was revoked, but a de facto sacramental excommunication remains for their schism; they put themselves out of communion with the Church."
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Cardinal Burke: "[T]he fact of the matter is that the Priestly Society of St. Pius X is in schism since the late Abp. Marcel Lefebvre ordained four bishops without the mandate of the Roman Pontiff.
"And so it is not legitimate to attend Mass or to receive the sacraments in a church that's under the direction of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X."
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Pax.
Mark Thomas
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