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Thursday, November 3, 2022

DOES THE SYNODAL CHURCH = A POLITICIZED CHURCH OF LOBBIES WHO TALK PAST EACH OTHER, LISTEN TO THE MORE POWERFUL LOBBIES AND ARE DEAF TO THE WORD OF GOD, TRADITION, NATURAL LAW AND THE PERENNIAL MAGISTERIUM AND DEPOSIT OF FAITH?

 The political processes of synodality and the powerful lobbies it will exacerbate will certainly create a Church of winners, whiners and losers when their political lobby fails to deliver regardless if one is heterodox, schismatic, apostastatic, or orthodox, faithful Catholics…


This is from a commentary in that ever so faithful to Pope Francis and especially to Pope Benedict XVI, the National Catholic Reporter:

To start, this is a stark contrast from Francis' 2013 comments on women's ordination: "The Church has spoken and says no … that door is closed."

Now, the church is speaking through the synodal process and saying: This is part of our discernment. The Vatican's admittance that the teaching on women's ordination is not a consistently held belief among Catholics reveals a spirit of openness and accountability to the people of God. The very fact that those challenging voices — many of which were filtered out at the local level — broke through means this call is strong and clear.

We at the Women's Ordination Conference engaged faithfully in the synod process, providing educational resources and spiritual tools, and hosting eight listening sessions ourselves, following the guidance of the synod preparatory documents. We submitted our report to the Vatican directly, and also registered as part of the so-called "Region XVI" with the U.S. bishops' conference so that our report, spanning voices beyond one diocese, could be included.

My Comment: The synodal process will place on steroids powerful religious/political lobbies to push for what they want. And at least this powerful lobby knows how to get what she wants, a heterodox Church can only be accomplished by listening not to God, Scripture, Tradition and Natural Law, but by listening to people, especially the most organized Catholics, powerful lobbies, who overshadow the true sensus fidelium, the actual Catholic Faith of quiet, sincere, bread and butter Catholics, who believe in God and listen to Him.

Mike Lewis of “Where Peter Is” more or less highlighted what I am saying about a political process in the Church with some leaving sad in a comment he made on my blog on another post:

I think those who go into the synod with the idea that it will change the Church's doctrine on sexuality, contraception, or women priests (for example) are going to be quite disappointed. I think the synod is a good opportunity to bring the Church together and to understand the concerns of our fellow Catholics and to help the Church to understand the perspectives of different people, so we can better respond to each other.

My Final comment: I am glad that Mike Lewis believes that the more heterodox comments coming from the listening sessions will enable the pope and the bishops in union with him to correct and reprove heterodox positions.

But I’ve been a listening lay Catholic and priest since the Second Vatican Council and I see through the synodal process, a resurgence of arrogance from the heterodox because they feel Pope Francis and goodly number of bishops have their back and prefer a Church that is wildly horizontal, self-referential, self-absorbed and a closed circle. This closed circle leave little for Scripture, Tradition and Natural Law, let alone the Deposit of Faith developed over the last 2,000 years and faithful Catholics willing to die for the faith, to be martyrs. 

I fear the real losers in this political process of listening will be the entire Catholic Church leaving only a remnant of truly faithful Catholics. Oh, well.

4 comments:

TJM said...

That remnant will be the TLM Catholics - not the Novus Ordo Catholics - the demographic sinkhole is extraordinarily wide. There has been no growth in decades except in a few areas. The Synods will likely chase me to the SSPX or FSSP. Basta

John said...

The forces of misschief are also in the Synodal Process. How do you keep out the Evil One where lobbying is going on? Whatever do you think happened in the German Church? Did Catholic orthodoxy rule the day or the currently fashionable secular ideologies? In the USA a miniscule rate of participation makes obvious that the synodal Process has not received by the faithful. Consequently, the Report of the Process reads like all reports cissued by the old Central Committee of the Soviet Politbureau.

rcg said...

The writing style shows that the author assumes a lot.

Jerome Merwick said...

"The political processes of synodality and the powerful lobbies it will exacerbate will certainly create a Church of winners, whiners and losers..."

Yes, it will.

I suppose that I am as guilty as anyone when it comes to "whining". I have complained about a lot of things for a long time, but I don't think I'm whining any more. Sadly, I believe that there is no hope in the current state of the Church and I fully expect Pope Francis and his followers to make things even worse. I still believe the Gates of Hell will not prevail against Christ's Church, but that doesn't mean that Church won't be harmed and harmed badly before She rises up in victory over Her enemies within.\

Seriously, I am so used to hearing nothing but heterodox crap and apostasy from the Vatican and its local branch offices (chanceries) that nothing surprises me any more. The Church has fallen into the hands of unfit men and as long as they run the game, it's just going to get worse. I just keep gritting my teeth and attending the Novus Ordo happy-time meeting that has a (hopefully) valid consecration buried inside of it every week.

Put your hope in God. The Church is hell-bent on self-destruct mode for the immediate future.