Saturday, March 24, 2018

WHAT DOES IT SAY THAT MOST AMERICANS, EVEN CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS, COULD CARE LESS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S EXTRAMARITAL SEX LIFE?

Stormy Daniels' Explosive Full Interview on Donald Trump Affair: "I Can Describe His Junk Perfectly" (EXCLUSIVE)


It appears that apart from CNN, the Democrats' cable news network, most Americans don't give a flip, including EF Catholics and conservative evangelical Protestants about Donald Trump's consensual sexcapades.

Is this a good thing or not?

Puritanical Protestants and Jansenistic Catholics are usually the ones who think sins surrounding the 6th Commandment are the worst ones and when exposed deserve the fires 🔥 of hell to be brought down upon those with the letter A written on their backs.

Prior to the sexual revolution of the 1960's, which really went mainstream starting with who some call a Saint, Hugh Hefner in the 1950's, the sexcapades of politicians was not deemed worthy of reporting. This was especially true for President Kennedy, seemingly a good Catholic. In other words, people's consensual sex lives, moral or immoral, were kept private and between the sinner and God.

For Catholics, required to go to Confession for sexual sins of any kind, even impure thoughts, they have the luxury of the seal of confession to keep things PRIVATE!

So is CNN, the Democrats' Cable News Network out of touch with most Americans who aren't as voyeristic as CNN is, but for political purposes, and in reporting the private sexual sins of DT, relish all the pornographic details? Are they promoting national political voyerism and isn't this more immoral and caustic of the common good then DT's consensual sexcapades.

And of course we already know DT's junk, he comes out with it everyday in his tweets!

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

DT promoted voyeurism by trumpeting his infidelities in print and in numerous interviews, not CNN.

DT bragged of his sexual exploits, his desire to commit sexual assault against a married woman, and his status as a "celebrity," not CNN.

DT bragged of the size of his "hands," not CNN.

Blaming the messenger doesn't work and everyone knows that.

Michael Gerson, former chief speech writer for President George W. Bush, senior advisor to the Heritage Foundation, and graduate of Wheaton College, one of the top Evangelical schools in the nation, write this superb piece on what the support of DT by "evangelical" Christians means and why it matters:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/04/the-last-temptation/554066/

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

That's the point! Everyone knows DT's sexcapades and it isn't news and no one but voyeurs care except CNN who think they are breaking news. It isn't news New or old!

Like Roseanne Barr, who wants the President to fail? Only CNN .

Anonymous said...

Everyone knows about DT's sexcapades because DT trumpets them.

CNN, among many other news outlets, reports on the President.

CNN does not create the news, it reports the news.

Yes, IT IS NEWS that DT is a sexual predator, that he has bragged about multiple infidelities, that he has been credibly accused of adultery and harassment by almost two dozen women, and that he is currently living in an adulterous "marriage."

DT, not CNN, is the reason.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

I am not a lawyer but I learned in high school that when law enforcement alone charges someone with a crime and arrests that person, that person has a right to a trial by a jury of peers and is innocent until proven guilty. Are you disputing that as it concerns DT?

Or do you prefer trial and presumption of guilt until proven innocent by CNN and other Democrat news and fake news outlets?

And so Catholics give a flip about it as well as evangelical Protestants, because the answer is no which in fact is news.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

And do....?

rcg said...

I don’t think anyone is surprised at DT sex habits because he didn’t hide them. His market was casinos and resorts that pretty much truck in debauchery. I once witnessed a riot caused by a plane load of his Miss World contestants putting on a “show” on an island that had no other women allowed on it. He has used sex to sell for years. I am not aware that he has done anything more than comment on government before seeking the Presidency. So his behavior was consistent with a businessman who had to deal with regulation, not judgement. I don’t think he wants to be a pillar of the party when his time in office up, either. So he has not had to wear that particular hypocrisy. I care quite a bit from a moral standpoint for him and all involved, but am not surprised that porn stars have sex with casino owners. The good news is that everyone knew from the first day the DT was a bad example. He is just like the fellow hired to fix the downspouts; don’t leave him alone with your daughters but otherwise he can get the job done. In his case the ‘job’ is to give as many government employees as possible retirement disabilities for ulcers in payment for their services. He is a walking, talking, tweeting comment from the American People on the government. He is is what they thought the bureaucracy deserved. We are in a civil war and he is 24/7 taunting from the barracade.

Kneeling Catholic said...

Father, I think it's a case of 'ex opere operato'.

Similar to when Protestants marvel at the bad popes' exploits, yet Catholics only shrug their shoulders...

We just don't care whether priests or popes or plumbers have big pecadillos as long as they do their god-given duties. Their own soul's status is between them and God. Protestants are starting to see this.

The Egyptian said...

Yeah Trump is a piece of work. However Noah ended up a drunk, Moses wasn't allowed to enter the promised land, Peter denied, Thomas doubted, Paul persecuted, Augustine was a philanderer and fathered a son out of wedlock,"save me lord just not yet", Many "Christian" kings of old didn't become Baptized till their deathbeds. The Church is full of sinners, I am not saying that Trump is any of these, far from it, but sometimes God picks the worst of men to do good.

Do you really think if Felonia Von Pantsuit was elected that any religious organizations would be exempt from paying for birth control or abortion. Clinton said. “Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs, and structural biases have to be changed.”.John Podesta, head of Clinton's campaign, says he helped to found two Catholic organizations to press for change in the Church. If Catholics decided to sit it out or back some third party that had ZERO chance that could have been our president.

Catholics should always be wary but to sit by, not participate, we only receive what we deserve, I am not saying to abandon all morals however self imposed martyrdom I believe is not good either. After observing his wife I feel we need to be asking Mary for help, she seems to have a devotion to her, stranger things have happened

TJM said...

This is the Bill Clinton show except for two differences:

1) Trump didn't engage in this conduct in the White House; and

2) His wife isn't out destroying the lives of the women who accused her "husband" of misconduct but if she did, she could call it a "vast left-wing conspiracy."

Because Dems back then said it was only about sex, shouldn't Trump be afforded the same protection, particularly since he was a Democrat at the time of the misconduct?

FYI, Cardinal Dolan in an interview said the Democratic Party has abandoned Catholics, I am waiting for faux priests and theologian Nancy Pelosi to attack the Cardinal

Gene said...

We do not elect Presidents because they are prime moral examples, although it would be nice if they were. As far back in US history as you would like to go many, if not most, Presidents have always had sexual escapades in their past. At one Howard Taft (who fathered several illegitimate children) rally, the opposition was on one side of the street chanting, "Ma, Ma, where's my Pa?," while his supporters were on the other side shouting back, "Gone to the White House, ha, ha, ha!" This is not news and Trump critics are being exceedingly hypocritical.

Fr Martin Fox said...

I think it is sad to have such a poor example in the White House, but we have what we have. And, yes, I know well he isn't the first. And, yes, I know that there are trade-offs. As far as I know, President and Mrs. Obama were faithful to each other, and cared for their children. That's great. But his actions as president, not great. President George Bush was, it seems, likewise faithful. But he did some terrible things in my judgment. Franklin Roosevelt had so many flaws, and made so many poor decisions, in my judgment, but he got one thing right: he led the world to victory over fascism.

So I understand being balanced, but I persist in believing that it is worthwhile to have a President be a good example.

This is also proof of the truth of the Scripture passage that says, "your sins will find you out."

Henry said...

Gene - Ditto. And Trump is, in his official actions and policies as president, the most Catholic-friendly president in memory. That's one reason why "we" support him, and why "they" attack him.

Anonymous said...

So CNN wants the president to fail? Yes, but it is not as if FOX has any objective coverage either---it is just a propaganda machine for Trump. Expecting Sean Hannity to ever be critical of Trump is like expecting Savannah will get snow on the 4th of July...

And Gene, I think it was Grover Cleveland, not Taft, who fathered those children...

Trying to be a good Catholic said...


What is NEWS Anonymous @7:03 and 8:05, is that in the world of today, news outlets such as CNN are blasting this to the public.

And this is not out of a sense of civic moral duty, but rather for public titillation and to inflict harm. Of course, this is not news as if this has not occurred with other political leaders and Presidents. What is different so far is that unlike some of the Hollywood elite and certain liberal politicians, the President has not been accused of sexual assault or sexual abuse of minors.

What we are witnessing is an attack not on immoral behavior, but one on the person of the President himself.

You need to get off your selective moral high horse.

The Egyptian said...

I have to add waaay back when, when our class was turning 18, our parish priest informed us that we were REQUIRED to vote for the Kennedys, for after all they were catholic, and once in the white house all we had to do is pray and they would outlaw abortion, I got kicked out of class for retorting I'd rather vote for Satan, there wasn't any difference anyway. If you think that the priest and I didn't get along too well, you'd be right

Anonymous said...

MOST AMERICANS, EVEN CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS, COULD CARE LESS ABOUT the exploitation of DONALD TRUMP'S EXTRAMARITAL SEX LIFE?

Gene said...

Anon @ 11:02, You are correct. It was Cleveland. My bad.

Anonymous said...

Many, many politicians have gone down for far less than what Trump is accused of (and hasn't exactly denied)paying 4130,000 as hush money to a porn star. Remember how we haven't stopped talking about Bill Clinton for 25 years? That moral outrage wasn't exactly moral outrage, it was political hypocrisy. Trump has exposed the religious right for the Pharisees that they were all along.

Daniel said...

HENRY: "The most Catholic-friendly president" in memory appointed Newt's third wife as ambassador to the Vatican. That's the woman (if I can keep track of Newt's love life) who had a three-year affair with him while he was still married to wife #2. Such an insult to the Pope & the Holy See.

Anonymous said...

Same reason you post obsessively about Francis-vs.-Benedict when your opinion actually hasn’t changed in the past five years?
Because new stuff keeps happening that (in your mind) proves that you’re right.

Vladimir said...

I hate to say it, because I have many friends who voted for him, but Trump will likely die in prison, for treason, selling out American interests to a foreign power & encouraging a murderous despot to interfere in our elections,
When that happens, nobody will give a damn who he appointed to the Vatican or how many abortions he paid for,
Also it will be hard to find people who’ll admit voting for him, just like Nixon.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous @ 8:27, what are you talking about?

Bill Clinton was accused by numerous women of sexual assault and rape, much more serious things for which Mr Trump has yet to be accused of. He also as President engaged in an adulterous and immoral act with a White House intern.

Yes, our current President has been accused of adultery. Other Presidents were not immune to this, including Thomas Jefferson. Former President Kennedy had a number of adulterous affairs. Robert Dallek, a Kennedy biographer describes JFK as a "compulsive womanizer" whose urge for sexual conquests was fueled by a complex array of personal traumas. Dallek wrote that he " probably rationalized his behavior as a diversion comparable with what British aristocrats did, or with the golf, sailing and fishing presidents traditionally used to ease tensions."
Of course Mr Kennedy also had recourse to confession which for the sake of his soul, I hope he availed himself of. before his unfortunate demise.

Anonymous 2 said...

To remain honest, one needs to ask oneself only one question: If this were Obama, would I argue that his "private" conduct is irrelevant and we should just focus on his policies?

Gene said...

Anon 2, One would spend so much time decrying Obama's socialist policies that he would have no time to ponder his extra-Presidential conduct...how about lunch again soon? These things need more discussion.

TJM said...

Vladimir you are confusing Trump with Obama and Hillary who did sell us out to the Russians via the uranium deal for which the Clintoon Crime Foundation received $150 million as the quid pro quo. Obama spent his entire presidency making Russia greater by pumping up their oil and gas industry while trying to surpress ours and pushing an Iranium deal which met with high approval from Putin. After all, it was Obama who was caught on a hot mic telling the Russians he could be more flexible with them after the 2012 election

Vladimir said...

TJM: The "uranium deal" is a hoax, widely debunked by anybody who bothered to check the facts. The narrative was created to deceive America's gullible chumps. Hello, there.
We're in Year 2 of Trump, and the Iran deal is still in place, because it's much better than all of the bad alternatives.
There's a phrase that describes people passing along arrant nonsense without a clue as to whether it's true or not: bearing false witness.

TJM said...

Vladimir, the uranium deal is not a hoax, it just reflects badly on the Abortion Party. It is currently being investigated by the DOJ. Bolton will shred the Iran Deal and Russkies like you will be very sad

Vladimir said...

TJM, Also not a hoax: Tin-foil hats will protect you from gamma rays emitted by Obama's death panels. Good luck!

Anonymous 2 said...

Gene:

More discussion over lunch would be good. Let’s email each other about setting up a time.

Anonymous 2 said...

TJM:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/24/what-you-need-know-about-hillary-clinton-and-urani/

Have fun!

By the way, the Trumpian tactics of distraction, including deflecting (usually well-founded) accusations and allegations and/or reflecting them back against the person making them (perhaps even ten-fold), are glaringly obvious and are already way, way beyond tiresome.



Anonymous said...

Conservative men admire and envy Trump, who can break all the rules, have affairs and paw models and get away with it.
They’d do the same if they could.

Anonymous said...


Franklin Roosevelt, the Kennedys, Gary Hart, Wilbur Mills, John Edwards, Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner: one could get finger cramp compiling a full list of Democrat politicians and their libertine adventures.

The only thing exceeding the audacity of the sexcapade adventures of this lot is the selective memory of their sycophantic followers.

Anonymous 2 said...

Anonymous at 9:24 pm:

Your list does not necessarily negate the accuracy of Anonymous’ at 6:58 a.m. claim, which could still be perfectly true as far as it goes. Perhaps the word “conservative” should be replaced by “all/most/many/some (including ‘conservative’) men.”

In any event, it is passing strange that so many so-called conservative men, who should be the most concerned as a matter of basic principle about unleashing the promiscuous beast within, with all the attendant disruption/destruction of families that so often ensues, seem so willing to give a pass to this president’s past (and possibly continuing?) behavior.