In the olden days, a priest full of pastoral solicitude for the living and the dead, would at least offer a conditional Last Rites to a presumed dead body including absolution, Apostolic Pardon and Anointing. The theology was that no one was quite sure how long it takes for the living immortal soul to depart the dead mortal bod, so one was not scrupulous about not offering the Sacramental Last Rites.
This miracle of sorts clinches the case for me! Offer the Sacramental Last Rites to the presumed Dead 💀!!!! They could end up being the Walking Dead, O my!
Man declared dead 'wakes up moments before autopsy'
by Mimi Launder
A man who 'died' in a car crash in India reportedly woke up just moments before his autopsy.
The autopsy was just about to begin on Himanshu Bharadwaj, who had been pronounced dead by doctors, before a pathologist detected a pulse.
Bharadwaj had been seriously injured in a car accident. After his condition worsened in hospital, he was first declared brain dead and then medically dead.
He was kept in the mortuary overnight before the planned post-mortem, reports Daily Bhaskar.
Dr C Gedam of the Chhindwara District Hospital said the man continues to be brain dead and still needs treatment, telling News 18:
Bharadwaj had been seriously injured in a car accident. After his condition worsened in hospital, he was first declared brain dead and then medically dead.
He was kept in the mortuary overnight before the planned post-mortem, reports Daily Bhaskar.
Dr C Gedam of the Chhindwara District Hospital said the man continues to be brain dead and still needs treatment, telling News 18:
The man was declared brain dead and upon his arrival at Chhindwara hospital his respiration was dysfunctional and the pulse was also missing. However, his respiratory organs began responding this morning.At times, in brain-dead patients, the heart and the respiratory system stop functioning transiently, which seems to be the case here. Himanshu is still brain dead. Thus, we have referred him to Nagpur due to lack of sufficient facilities locally.
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Good idea, Father. To re-enforce this conclusion check out the story of Roy Benavidez and hid resistance to the body bag.
They eventually got him to hold still. Roy Benavidez died on November 29, 1998, at the age of 63 at Brooke Army Medical Center, having suffered respiratory failure and complications of diabetes.[9] His body was escorted to St. Robert Bellarmine Catholic Church, where he had married, where his three children were married, and where he attended Mass every Sunday. His body was then returned to Fort Sam Houston's Main Chapel for a public viewing. Family friend Archbishop Patrick Flores of the Archdiocese of San Antonio (now archbishop emeritus) presided over a Catholic funeral Mass at San Fernando Cathedral located in San Antonio
Fr. Z opines, "That leads us back to the question of anointing people who seem already to have died. A person who is dead cannot receive a sacrament, therefore a sacrament should not be attempted to be administered."
I think a conditional anointing is allowed in the EF Rite, similar to a conditional baptism. If you are not dead I anoint you...
If the priest knows the individual is dead... "A person who is dead cannot receive a sacrament, therefore a sacrament should not be attempted to be administered." Yes, you can know, or you can play the game of making up your own reality:
V: What makes you think she is a witch?
P2: Well, she turned me into a newt!
V: A newt?!
(P2 pause & look around)
P2: I got better.
(pause)
P3: Burn her anyway! (burn her burn her burn!)
Bee here:
My dad died suddenly at home, sitting at the kitchen table. We first called 911, and then the local parish priest, and asked him to meet us at the hospital. We didn't know if they could revive my dad, even for a few minutes or hours. I had to follow the ambulance in my own car, and when I got there I was ushered into a little room, and not allowed to see or be with my dad. They asked me what happened, and I told them, and then they sent in another person to ask me the same questions again. I expect they wanted to rule out any foul play, and begin any "investigation" that might be needed, depending on what they found with regards to my dad's physical body or blood work. (I was "cleared" when they got a hold of his primary doctor, and learned of his ongoing health problems, and that he'd been to see the doctor just about a week before.)
A little bit later, at least 20 minutes, they told me my father had definitely passed, and that the parish priest was there if I'd like to join him in the little ER room where my father was. Father administered the Sacrament of the Sick provisionally, and I was so very grateful. I knew if it was at all possible for my dad to receive the sacrament, he got the full benefit of the doubt, even though all the monitors showed his heart was stopped. I knew if he was dead dead, the sacrament did him no good. But I trust in God to make that call.
I'm pretty sure my dad was in the state of grace at the time of his death, and so I feel somewhat confident he is with Our Lord, even if in purgatory. And I guess even if a person is dead dead, it can't hurt for the priest to administer some kind of blessing, and say some prayers of the Church over them for the repose of their soul.
God bless.
Bee
Bee here:
Michael Kavanaugh: But you left out the end of the bit...that she WAS a witch.
I guess it's just not a good example of what you were trying to mock.
God bless.
Bee
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