Wednesday, March 21, 2018


I have said it before and will say it again, the retrograde Catholics are those stuck in the 1970's liberalism. Those progressives in the Magisterium of that period implemented their progressive spirit by using the worst form of pre-Vatican II authoritarianism which included shaming those who did not share their vision as being backwards and disobedient.

These liberals were really right wing dictators forcing down the throats of rank and file clergy and laity a vision of a completely new Church in completely new wineskins. Traditionalists were marginalized and sent to the peripheries in the most abusive psychological way and often in physical ways too!

There is a recovery of this name calling right wing dictatorship in the highest levels of the Church today, as though in some weird time warp.

You can read the full interview on true progressivism at The National Catholic Register, an excerpt of which I copy below:

Bertalan Kiss, president of the 'traditionalist' youth movement Foaederatio Internationalis Juventutem
Bertalan Kiss, president of the 'traditionalist' youth movement Foaederatio Internationalis Juventutem (Bertalan Kiss)

BLOGS   |  MAR. 21, 2018
Youth Leader: Traditional Latin Mass is 'Progressive'
Bertalan Kiss says the extraordinary form of the Roman rite is not stuck in the past but rather draws on the treasures of the Church’s heritage and attracts young people because it ‘challenges them.’
You’ve said in the past that you’re the “progressives.” What do you mean by that?

Yes, my position is that there’s this concept, or mindset, that those people who prefer the extraordinary form, traditional liturgical practices and all the theological and moral teachings that go with it, are somehow retrograde. They want to go back and so on. But I always argue that this is completely not the case, because if you look at the liturgical reform and look at how Pope Benedict interpreted the liturgical reform in light of continuity, this movement is the next logical step to make.

We have had 50 or so years of the liturgical reform being introduced. There were high hopes that it would attract new generations, that it would be more accessible, and so on, but the implementation and the fruits of it, well these are still being discussed. But the way Summorum Pontificum envisioned the use of the extraordinary form in parish life and in the life of the Church is just the next logical step to make. So I usually say we’re not the ones who want to go back, we are truly the progressives because we’re not afraid to use different elements of the Church’s treasures and patrimony. Also because we didn’t live in the times when the liturgical reforms happened, so we don’t have any sort of personal contact with the discussions going on at that time.  So for us it’s the next logical step to make.

1 comment:

ByzRC said...

Well said and I wholly agree. It is my own feeling that the future of the Church lies in the Extraordinary Form. I hope their numbers continue to grow and that this wonder treasure of the Church is learned, cared for and passed along to the next generation.