That really is a great photo. Both expressions are perfect caricatures. I assume the nurse took the photo as a "selfie" and, if so, kudos to her composition skills using a phone. After you pass away, I might add it to your headstone along with the inscription "our fearless priest".
The problem is that this was not exactly a vaccine but was really genetic therapy. The mRNA injection instructs your cells to build proteins that duplicate elements of the spike protein of the SARS-CoVid-2 virus, so your immune system becomes activated against them, thereby attacking the real virus with those spikes should they get into you. This is a dangerous method of stimulating your immune system because we do not know what lies ahead 4-5 years from now. Your own cells have become factories for the virus spikes which, as such, your immune system may want to destroy, otherwise known as autoimmune disease. It was a problem with SARS-1 "vaccine" trials in animals.
Of course, if you are under 70 years old and in good health, the survival rate is 99.95% should you even catch the virus. Is pumping foreign mRNA into your body worth the risk? For me, I think the risk is still too great since the "vaccine" is only meant to reduce the symptoms, not make you non-contageous nor even prevent you from catching it in the first place. That may be worth the risk for those with co-morbidities especially if over 70. But respiratory viruses mutate rapidly precisely to avoid the human immune system and continue their infection so as to propagate. This game has been ongoing since the beginning of humanity on this planet. BigPharma will be happy to give you mRNA every year.....lots of money here for them....
Myth: COVID-19 vaccines will alter my DNA. Fact: The first COVID-19 vaccines to reach the market are likely to be messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines. According to the CDC, mRNA vaccines work by instructing cells in the body how to make a protein that triggers an immune response. Injecting mRNA into your body will not interact or do anything to the DNA of your cells. Human cells break down and get rid of the mRNA soon after they have finished using the instructions.
Myth: More people will die as a result of a negative side effect to the COVID-19 vaccine than would actually die from the virus. Fact: Circulating on social media is the claim that COVID-19's mortality rate is 1%-2% and that people should not be vaccinated against a virus with a high survival rate. However, a 1% mortality rate is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu. In addition, the mortality rate can vary widely and is influenced by age, sex and underlying health condition.
While some people that receive the vaccine may develop symptoms as their immune system responds, remember that this is common when receiving any vaccine and not considered serious or life-threatening. You cannot get COVID-19 infection from the COVID-19 vaccines; they are inactivated vaccines and not live viruses.
It's important to recognize that getting the vaccine is not just about survival from COVID-19. It's about preventing spread of the virus to others and preventing infection that can lead to long-term negative health effects. While no vaccine is 100% effective, they are far better than not getting a vaccine. The benefits certainly outweigh the risks in healthy people.
Myth: More people will die as a result of a negative side effect to the COVID-19 vaccine than would actually die from the virus. Fact: Circulating on social media is the claim that COVID-19's mortality rate is 1%-2% and that people should not be vaccinated against a virus with a high survival rate. However, a 1% mortality rate is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu. In addition, the mortality rate can vary widely and is influenced by age, sex and underlying health condition.
While some people that receive the vaccine may develop symptoms as their immune system responds, remember that this is common when receiving any vaccine and not considered serious or life-threatening. You cannot get COVID-19 infection from the COVID-19 vaccines; they are inactivated vaccines and not live viruses.
It's important to recognize that getting the vaccine is not just about survival from COVID-19. It's about preventing spread of the virus to others and preventing infection that can lead to long-term negative health effects. While no vaccine is 100% effective, they are far better than not getting a vaccine. The benefits certainly outweigh the risks in healthy people.
Myth: More people will die as a result of a negative side effect to the COVID-19 vaccine than would actually die from the virus. Fact: Circulating on social media is the claim that COVID-19's mortality rate is 1%-2% and that people should not be vaccinated against a virus with a high survival rate. However, a 1% mortality rate is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu. In addition, the mortality rate can vary widely and is influenced by age, sex and underlying health condition.
While some people that receive the vaccine may develop symptoms as their immune system responds, remember that this is common when receiving any vaccine and not considered serious or life-threatening. You cannot get COVID-19 infection from the COVID-19 vaccines; they are inactivated vaccines and not live viruses.
It's important to recognize that getting the vaccine is not just about survival from COVID-19. It's about preventing spread of the virus to others and preventing infection that can lead to long-term negative health effects. While no vaccine is 100% effective, they are far better than not getting a vaccine. The benefits certainly outweigh the risks in healthy people.
Those have been there for decades. They're not caused by the vaccine....
That, or the vaccine has altered your brain so that you are now going to take part in a Trump-inspired insurrection to attack the Capitol in Washington and subvert the government... Are your fur hat, face paint, and magic necklace beads nearby?
Remember, there's no organic food in Washington, DC jails...
Unbelievable. I'll use a quote to describe this, "For those of you who want to keep taking these shots that use cell lines extricated from a living little-girl infant who was tortured to death; see if God will bless this mindless obedience to health-communism in the selfish care of our bodies." He won't.
It is unbelievable a @ 9:06 that you did not do you homework. This is serious business and I have buried several parishioners who have died of Covid 19 the latest to die just this morning. You are being irresponsible.
excerpt: Most of the COVID-19 vaccines in development do not use human cell lines in their production. For example, Pfizer and Moderna use mRNA technology.
An mRNA vaccine is a new type of synthetic vaccine. As Pfizer explains, mRNA vaccines are made from a DNA template in a lab, rather than the traditional method of being made in cells. The vaccine is then synthetically produced.
"The CDF’s Note on the Morality of Using Some Anti-COVID-19 Vaccines and the USCCB’s Moral Considerations Regarding the New COVID-19 Vaccines align in the guidance they provide to Catholics.
In sum:
Acceptance of the COVID-19 vaccines developed, researched, or tested utilizing fetal cell lines is morally permissible when no alternative COVID-19 vaccine is available or accessible.
Acceptance of these COVID-19 vaccine involves very remote material cooperation in the twofold evils of the abortions of the fetuses from whom tissue was posthumously taken to derive cell strains for medical research.
An action that involves remote cooperation in evil is permissible, or even encouraged, when there are grave moral reasons that are proportional to or outweigh moral badness of this cooperation.
The proportional moral reasons for acceptance of the vaccine are the promotion of community health and prevention of serious risk of harm, which are grounded in the fundamental moral and social principle of the common good.
It is permissible to refuse the COVID-19 vaccine, but those who refuse should perform additional actions that promote community health and prevention of serious harm.
While accepting the vaccine is a morally responsible action, recipients nonetheless have an obligation to protest the use of fetal cell lines in vaccine development."
@9:06. That is an absolute lie, and to continue spreading it when you know perfectly well that it is untrue is both irresponsible and morally reprehensible. Dont take the vaccine if you dont want it, but don't spread this garbage either. Lord have mercy on you, and everyone you attempt to brainwash.
The approved vaccines to date are of two types, those directly manufactured from aborted fetal cell lines, and/or those tested on aborted fetal cell lines. The one you took was only tested on aborted fetal cell lines.
Our Church theologians and philosphers and moral law scholars assure us the link is remote on the latter type, and we are excused in taking the virus for the common good, SO LONG as we also make a stink as to lack of more morally acceptable alternatives.
Personally, I will be abstaining until/unless a better alternative more standard vaccine available (which will be a long while, likely), our city now has OFFICIAL numbers of infected at 1 in every 4, and infections plummeting here same as state and nationwide back to 1st of Nov rates and true herd immunity apparently approaches given likely numbers of undiagnosed cases already come and gone. Personally hope to see it fizzling naturally by April.
As for abstaining from the vaccine, personally, the differences between the two vaccines is that one offers me a new leg for missing leg grown directly from an innocent prisoner executed, versus a new leg for missing leg only tested on a clone of an innocent prisoner executed. Both sound as horrid sci-fi as can be.
This is typical of what has been coming from the mass ignorance of the public, politicians, media, and so many so-called experts who just parrot each other.
Where do you get this crackpot figure of 1-2%? That may be the case for many of those in their 80s with 2 or more comorbidities, but the general IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) for healthy people under 70 around the world is about 0.05%, better than bad years of the flu. This figure is from a study by John Joannidis and published by the W.H.O.:
One thing to recall is that the older you are the less effective vaccines are, which includes influenza vaccines. The most vulnerable, the old with comorbidities, are the ones for whom vaccines are most problematic. Looking at the year prior to this, the IFR for influenza was unusually low in many countries, creating a huge population of vulnerable people for the following year, 2019/20, which the Sars-Cov-2 virus has been decimating. Good health, no matter at what age is the key to a long life, as so much of these comorbidities are related to lifestyle: put away your car and walk for a change, and eat healthy foods.
If you had taken the time to do a bit of research you would have learned that natural RNA comes from the DNA in the cells to produce specific proteins. Here is a succinct primer from Encyclopedia Britannica on this:
https://www.britannica.com/science/messenger-RNA
In the human, RNA derives from DNA, but with this novel gene therapy, the human DNA is by-passed because the mRNA introduced is foreign to the human's DNA. Since we are talking about genes, another way of looking at this is to consider GMOs, genetically modified organisms, where the organism is modified at the gene level to produce certain results. The whole point of mRNA "vaccines" is that they manipulate the human cell to produce a foreign invader protein that the human DNA would never have done otherwise. Curiously a lot of people are against GMOs, but when it comes to humans they just turn a blind eye.
Normally, natural RNA is not long lasting, and the key to this whole gene therapy "vaccine". But this is where I have a concern, because it is certainly possible for some of this foreign mRNA to persist for some time in some people, creating a time bomb in the population. Moreover there have been a lot of anecdotal cases of elderly dying after receiving the mRNA. It is blamed on their comorbidities, yet with Covid-19 the opposite is being done...go figure. Looks like BigPharma with its huge money spent on lobbying and shaping the mind of the population is working well:
The sheep falling in line to get sheared. How does it feel to be manipulated & bamboozled, sold a phony pandemic and a so-called vaccine that's never been tested? With myriad proven dangerous side effects? It is sad and scary what the weak-minded will do for approval of their Dear Leaders. Thanks, Joe!
Anon 2:34 says, "...a vaccine that's never veen tested?"
The CDC says: "All COVID-19 vaccines were tested in clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people to make sure they meet safety standards and protect adults of different races, ethnicities, and ages, including adults over the age of 65." Jan 11, 2021
Anon 2:34 says, "...myriad proven dangerous side effects?"
The CDC says the common side effects are "Pain, Swelling, Fever, Chills, Tiredness, Headache"
These are common, very common, for any vaccine.
Thee CDC says there may rarely be more serious side effects: Severe Allergic Reactions
These, too, are common with vaccinations.
Norway is investigating 23 deaths that MAY be related to the vaccine. "To date, it has analyzed data from 13 of those individuals. The Norwegian Medicines Agency concluded that common adverse reactions to mRNA vaccines, including fever and nausea, could have contributed to deaths in elderly and frail patients. The agency said in a statement that it had expected deaths close to the time of vaccination, given its plan to vaccinate elderly patients, many of whom have “serious underlying diseases.” Some 400 people in Norway die each week in nursing homes and long-term care facilities." https://www.drugdiscoverytrends.com/norway-investigating-deaths-of-23-individuals-who-took-covid-19-vaccine/
Yes, there are "proven dangerous side effects" AS THERE ARE WITH ANY VACCINE.
How many other CDC/FDA approved medications have you taken in your life without so much as a second thought?
Let's be realistic here as for testing and safety....these emergency use authorizations are required due to lack of testing as is normally done on far larger groups for much longer time periods....period.
The history of this technology is that it was first tried as for medicines, and had extensive and often fatal side effects and the medicines pulled/withdrawn, whereupon the ones with the patents went into the far less lucrative vaccine market, where doses are far smaller, taken only once or twice, and APPARENTLY serious side effects and fatalities far lower....period.
The truth is, nobody really knows, even on far more extensively tested and used drugs, and they end up showing unforeseen serious problems with use, as those of us taking various meds are well aware. We will truly know the safety and efficacy only after a very long time....period.
Both you cheerleaders and naysayers are otherwise talking thru your colllective hats. Those of us on regular meds know better.
Remember that more money has been allocated, both from the government and private companies, to develop this vaccine than any other. For example, the US spends about $200million a year researching flu vaccine development. $9billion was spent on covid vaccine research alone. Resources were also not divided among diseases and disorders. Every biologist and epidemiologist in the world has been working on this one this year.
OBVIOUSLY it developed quickly. Look at the resources allocated.
Sorry, I know logic and reason don't fit well into the alternative reality y'all are trying to create, but give it some thought at least.
When I was a schoolboy in England, we were all lined up at school and called forward one by one to sit in a chair and get whatever jab was required that day—polio, smallpox, diphtheria, T.B, etc., etc. I did not have a choice in the matter and, as far as I know, neither did my parents. We all simply got protected by the vaccination and at the same time did our civic duty in a matter of public health. End of story.
I am glad that I got all those vaccinations, and I am glad that I got my first shot of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine last Monday (with the second one scheduled for the Ides of March, which somehow seems a singularly appropriate date for needle sticks). Like so many people, I had spent hours and hours on the phone (only to get constant busy signals) and on pharmacy websites, all to no avail, and only successfully secured an appointment for a vaccination after Governor Kemp arranged for the opening of a drive-through mass vaccination site in Macon—one of four in the State of Georgia. Thankfully, my wife got vaccinated at the very beginning of the roll out, as she works in the local medical center where her team counsels the families of severely ill and dying patients, including many with Covid-19.
I hope everyone here can and will get their vaccination soon if they have not already had it. And to provide some reassurance, apart from some minor soreness in the arm for a couple of days, I have not yet suffered any untoward side effects—unless you count my knees turning blue, my voice rising two octaves, and the rest of my hair falling out, that is.
By the way, Father McDonald, regarding number 6, remember “I am not a number; I am a free man.” -:)
If you look on the CDC website it clearly states Moderna uses HEK293 cell line to test each batch of vaccine. HEK stands for "human embryonic kidney". So I'm sorry you didn't know this Father. God bless you. You still don't have to take the second jab. That would be, in my humble opinion, knowingly participating in evil. We will each answer to God so I can't judge your heart.
Then everyone is going to hell especially all the pope, bishops, clergy, religious and laity. So there will be an elite group in heaven of the pure and boring, no lost sheep, the exciting ones. And finally, more than likely you won't be there given all the vaccines and shots you have had over the years that are even more egregious in what you describe. Yes, I will get my second vaccine, because it is the right thing to do so, knowing that it is the right thing and doing it will full consent of the will and with foresight and planning. At least God is bringing good out of an intrinsic evil to test the vaccine.
I don't presume to know who will be in heaven or hell. If I received unethical vaccines unknowingly that is one thing, but to do so with full knowledge would be my choice to participate in evil. You have a chance now to courageously take a stand. God bless you, Father. You are one of the Blessed Mother's chosen sons. Please don't lead your flock into perdition. I beg of you.
The vaccine is not made using HEK293. It is tested on HEK293. So is Benedryl, yall. Many OTC drugs are. Do you do this everyone time someone pops an aspirin? When was the last time you protested outside CVS?
Have you considered that Father Allan, a holy man, may have sought the opinion of people far more qualified than anons on the internet? Do you not think that his decision was made after prayer and discernment?
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She saved the square needle just for you. I just left seeing a Sister Doctor.
That really is a great photo. Both expressions are perfect caricatures. I assume the nurse took the photo as a "selfie" and, if so, kudos to her composition skills using a phone. After you pass away, I might add it to your headstone along with the inscription "our fearless priest".
Mistake Father. BIG mistake.
The problem is that this was not exactly a vaccine but was really genetic therapy. The mRNA injection instructs your cells to build proteins that duplicate elements of the spike protein of the SARS-CoVid-2 virus, so your immune system becomes activated against them, thereby attacking the real virus with those spikes should they get into you. This is a dangerous method of stimulating your immune system because we do not know what lies ahead 4-5 years from now. Your own cells have become factories for the virus spikes which, as such, your immune system may want to destroy, otherwise known as autoimmune disease. It was a problem with SARS-1 "vaccine" trials in animals.
Of course, if you are under 70 years old and in good health, the survival rate is 99.95% should you even catch the virus. Is pumping foreign mRNA into your body worth the risk? For me, I think the risk is still too great since the "vaccine" is only meant to reduce the symptoms, not make you non-contageous nor even prevent you from catching it in the first place. That may be worth the risk for those with co-morbidities especially if over 70. But respiratory viruses mutate rapidly precisely to avoid the human immune system and continue their infection so as to propagate. This game has been ongoing since the beginning of humanity on this planet. BigPharma will be happy to give you mRNA every year.....lots of money here for them....
No, Victor:
From the Mayo Clinic
Myth: COVID-19 vaccines will alter my DNA.
Fact: The first COVID-19 vaccines to reach the market are likely to be messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines. According to the CDC, mRNA vaccines work by instructing cells in the body how to make a protein that triggers an immune response. Injecting mRNA into your body will not interact or do anything to the DNA of your cells. Human cells break down and get rid of the mRNA soon after they have finished using the instructions.
Myth: More people will die as a result of a negative side effect to the COVID-19 vaccine than would actually die from the virus.
Fact: Circulating on social media is the claim that COVID-19's mortality rate is 1%-2% and that people should not be vaccinated against a virus with a high survival rate. However, a 1% mortality rate is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu. In addition, the mortality rate can vary widely and is influenced by age, sex and underlying health condition.
While some people that receive the vaccine may develop symptoms as their immune system responds, remember that this is common when receiving any vaccine and not considered serious or life-threatening. You cannot get COVID-19 infection from the COVID-19 vaccines; they are inactivated vaccines and not live viruses.
It's important to recognize that getting the vaccine is not just about survival from COVID-19. It's about preventing spread of the virus to others and preventing infection that can lead to long-term negative health effects. While no vaccine is 100% effective, they are far better than not getting a vaccine. The benefits certainly outweigh the risks in healthy people.
Myth: More people will die as a result of a negative side effect to the COVID-19 vaccine than would actually die from the virus.
Fact: Circulating on social media is the claim that COVID-19's mortality rate is 1%-2% and that people should not be vaccinated against a virus with a high survival rate. However, a 1% mortality rate is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu. In addition, the mortality rate can vary widely and is influenced by age, sex and underlying health condition.
While some people that receive the vaccine may develop symptoms as their immune system responds, remember that this is common when receiving any vaccine and not considered serious or life-threatening. You cannot get COVID-19 infection from the COVID-19 vaccines; they are inactivated vaccines and not live viruses.
It's important to recognize that getting the vaccine is not just about survival from COVID-19. It's about preventing spread of the virus to others and preventing infection that can lead to long-term negative health effects. While no vaccine is 100% effective, they are far better than not getting a vaccine. The benefits certainly outweigh the risks in healthy people.
Myth: More people will die as a result of a negative side effect to the COVID-19 vaccine than would actually die from the virus.
Fact: Circulating on social media is the claim that COVID-19's mortality rate is 1%-2% and that people should not be vaccinated against a virus with a high survival rate. However, a 1% mortality rate is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu. In addition, the mortality rate can vary widely and is influenced by age, sex and underlying health condition.
While some people that receive the vaccine may develop symptoms as their immune system responds, remember that this is common when receiving any vaccine and not considered serious or life-threatening. You cannot get COVID-19 infection from the COVID-19 vaccines; they are inactivated vaccines and not live viruses.
It's important to recognize that getting the vaccine is not just about survival from COVID-19. It's about preventing spread of the virus to others and preventing infection that can lead to long-term negative health effects. While no vaccine is 100% effective, they are far better than not getting a vaccine. The benefits certainly outweigh the risks in healthy people.
Omg! Can anyone explain the horns I woke up with this morning?
Those have been there for decades. They're not caused by the vaccine....
That, or the vaccine has altered your brain so that you are now going to take part in a Trump-inspired insurrection to attack the Capitol in Washington and subvert the government... Are your fur hat, face paint, and magic necklace beads nearby?
Remember, there's no organic food in Washington, DC jails...
Unbelievable. I'll use a quote to describe this, "For those of you who want to keep taking these shots that use cell lines extricated from a living little-girl infant who was tortured to death; see if God will bless this mindless obedience to health-communism in the selfish care of our bodies." He won't.
It is unbelievable a @ 9:06 that you did not do you homework. This is serious business and I have buried several parishioners who have died of Covid 19 the latest to die just this morning. You are being irresponsible.
https://factcheckni.org/articles/covid-19-vaccines-and-aborted-fetuses/
excerpt: Most of the COVID-19 vaccines in development do not use human cell lines in their production. For example, Pfizer and Moderna use mRNA technology.
An mRNA vaccine is a new type of synthetic vaccine. As Pfizer explains, mRNA vaccines are made from a DNA template in a lab, rather than the traditional method of being made in cells. The vaccine is then synthetically produced.
The Moderna vaccine is also synthetic.
I received the Moderna.
"The CDF’s Note on the Morality of Using Some Anti-COVID-19 Vaccines and the USCCB’s Moral Considerations Regarding the New COVID-19 Vaccines align in the guidance they provide to Catholics.
In sum:
Acceptance of the COVID-19 vaccines developed, researched, or tested utilizing fetal cell lines is morally permissible when no alternative COVID-19 vaccine is available or accessible.
Acceptance of these COVID-19 vaccine involves very remote material cooperation in the twofold evils of the abortions of the fetuses from whom tissue was posthumously taken to derive cell strains for medical research.
An action that involves remote cooperation in evil is permissible, or even encouraged, when there are grave moral reasons that are proportional to or outweigh moral badness of this cooperation.
The proportional moral reasons for acceptance of the vaccine are the promotion of community health and prevention of serious risk of harm, which are grounded in the fundamental moral and social principle of the common good.
It is permissible to refuse the COVID-19 vaccine, but those who refuse should perform additional actions that promote community health and prevention of serious harm.
While accepting the vaccine is a morally responsible action, recipients nonetheless have an obligation to protest the use of fetal cell lines in vaccine development."
@9:06. That is an absolute lie, and to continue spreading it when you know perfectly well that it is untrue is both irresponsible and morally reprehensible. Dont take the vaccine if you dont want it, but don't spread this garbage either. Lord have mercy on you, and everyone you attempt to brainwash.
The approved vaccines to date are of two types, those directly manufactured from aborted fetal cell lines, and/or those tested on aborted fetal cell lines. The one you took was only tested on aborted fetal cell lines.
Our Church theologians and philosphers and moral law scholars assure us the link is remote on the latter type, and we are excused in taking the virus for the common good, SO LONG as we also make a stink as to lack of more morally acceptable alternatives.
Personally, I will be abstaining until/unless a better alternative more standard vaccine available (which will be a long while, likely), our city now has OFFICIAL numbers of infected at 1 in every 4, and infections plummeting here same as state and nationwide back to 1st of Nov rates and true herd immunity apparently approaches given likely numbers of undiagnosed cases already come and gone. Personally hope to see it fizzling naturally by April.
As for abstaining from the vaccine, personally, the differences between the two vaccines is that one offers me a new leg for missing leg grown directly from an innocent prisoner executed, versus a new leg for missing leg only tested on a clone of an innocent prisoner executed. Both sound as horrid sci-fi as can be.
Unbelieveable! That quote sounds alot like it came from padre peregrino or whatever his name is. I'll pass!
Anonymous @6:46:
"No, you are wrong."
This is typical of what has been coming from the mass ignorance of the public, politicians, media, and so many so-called experts who just parrot each other.
Where do you get this crackpot figure of 1-2%? That may be the case for many of those in their 80s with 2 or more comorbidities, but the general IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) for healthy people under 70 around the world is about 0.05%, better than bad years of the flu. This figure is from a study by John Joannidis and published by the W.H.O.:
https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/99/1/20-265892/en/
One thing to recall is that the older you are the less effective vaccines are, which includes influenza vaccines. The most vulnerable, the old with comorbidities, are the ones for whom vaccines are most problematic. Looking at the year prior to this, the IFR for influenza was unusually low in many countries, creating a huge population of vulnerable people for the following year, 2019/20, which the Sars-Cov-2 virus has been decimating. Good health, no matter at what age is the key to a long life, as so much of these comorbidities are related to lifestyle: put away your car and walk for a change, and eat healthy foods.
If you had taken the time to do a bit of research you would have learned that natural RNA comes from the DNA in the cells to produce specific proteins. Here is a succinct primer from Encyclopedia Britannica on this:
https://www.britannica.com/science/messenger-RNA
In the human, RNA derives from DNA, but with this novel gene therapy, the human DNA is by-passed because the mRNA introduced is foreign to the human's DNA. Since we are talking about genes, another way of looking at this is to consider GMOs, genetically modified organisms, where the organism is modified at the gene level to produce certain results. The whole point of mRNA "vaccines" is that they manipulate the human cell to produce a foreign invader protein that the human DNA would never have done otherwise. Curiously a lot of people are against GMOs, but when it comes to humans they just turn a blind eye.
Normally, natural RNA is not long lasting, and the key to this whole gene therapy "vaccine". But this is where I have a concern, because it is certainly possible for some of this foreign mRNA to persist for some time in some people, creating a time bomb in the population. Moreover there have been a lot of anecdotal cases of elderly dying after receiving the mRNA. It is blamed on their comorbidities, yet with Covid-19 the opposite is being done...go figure. Looks like BigPharma with its huge money spent on lobbying and shaping the mind of the population is working well:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/world/europe/vaccine-secret-contracts-prices.html
The sheep falling in line to get sheared. How does it feel to be manipulated & bamboozled, sold a phony pandemic and a so-called vaccine that's never been tested? With myriad proven dangerous side effects? It is sad and scary what the weak-minded will do for approval of their Dear Leaders. Thanks, Joe!
Anon 2:34 says, "...a vaccine that's never veen tested?"
The CDC says: "All COVID-19 vaccines were tested in clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people to make sure they meet safety standards and protect adults of different races, ethnicities, and ages, including adults over the age of 65." Jan 11, 2021
Anon 2:34 says, "...myriad proven dangerous side effects?"
The CDC says the common side effects are "Pain, Swelling, Fever, Chills, Tiredness, Headache"
These are common, very common, for any vaccine.
Thee CDC says there may rarely be more serious side effects: Severe Allergic Reactions
These, too, are common with vaccinations.
Norway is investigating 23 deaths that MAY be related to the vaccine. "To date, it has analyzed data from 13 of those individuals. The Norwegian Medicines Agency concluded that common adverse reactions to mRNA vaccines, including fever and nausea, could have contributed to deaths in elderly and frail patients. The agency said in a statement that it had expected deaths close to the time of vaccination, given its plan to vaccinate elderly patients, many of whom have “serious underlying diseases.” Some 400 people in Norway die each week in nursing homes and long-term care facilities." https://www.drugdiscoverytrends.com/norway-investigating-deaths-of-23-individuals-who-took-covid-19-vaccine/
Yes, there are "proven dangerous side effects" AS THERE ARE WITH ANY VACCINE.
How many other CDC/FDA approved medications have you taken in your life without so much as a second thought?
Let's be realistic here as for testing and safety....these emergency use authorizations are required due to lack of testing as is normally done on far larger groups for much longer time periods....period.
The history of this technology is that it was first tried as for medicines, and had extensive and often fatal side effects and the medicines pulled/withdrawn, whereupon the ones with the patents went into the far less lucrative vaccine market, where doses are far smaller, taken only once or twice, and APPARENTLY serious side effects and fatalities far lower....period.
The truth is, nobody really knows, even on far more extensively tested and used drugs, and they end up showing unforeseen serious problems with use, as those of us taking various meds are well aware. We will truly know the safety and efficacy only after a very long time....period.
Both you cheerleaders and naysayers are otherwise talking thru your colllective hats. Those of us on regular meds know better.
Remember that more money has been allocated, both from the government and private companies, to develop this vaccine than any other. For example, the US spends about $200million a year researching flu vaccine development. $9billion was spent on covid vaccine research alone. Resources were also not divided among diseases and disorders. Every biologist and epidemiologist in the world has been working on this one this year.
OBVIOUSLY it developed quickly. Look at the resources allocated.
Sorry, I know logic and reason don't fit well into the alternative reality y'all are trying to create, but give it some thought at least.
When I was a schoolboy in England, we were all lined up at school and called forward one by one to sit in a chair and get whatever jab was required that day—polio, smallpox, diphtheria, T.B, etc., etc. I did not have a choice in the matter and, as far as I know, neither did my parents. We all simply got protected by the vaccination and at the same time did our civic duty in a matter of public health. End of story.
I am glad that I got all those vaccinations, and I am glad that I got my first shot of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine last Monday (with the second one scheduled for the Ides of March, which somehow seems a singularly appropriate date for needle sticks). Like so many people, I had spent hours and hours on the phone (only to get constant busy signals) and on pharmacy websites, all to no avail, and only successfully secured an appointment for a vaccination after Governor Kemp arranged for the opening of a drive-through mass vaccination site in Macon—one of four in the State of Georgia. Thankfully, my wife got vaccinated at the very beginning of the roll out, as she works in the local medical center where her team counsels the families of severely ill and dying patients, including many with Covid-19.
I hope everyone here can and will get their vaccination soon if they have not already had it. And to provide some reassurance, apart from some minor soreness in the arm for a couple of days, I have not yet suffered any untoward side effects—unless you count my knees turning blue, my voice rising two octaves, and the rest of my hair falling out, that is.
By the way, Father McDonald, regarding number 6, remember “I am not a number; I am a free man.” -:)
If you look on the CDC website it clearly states Moderna uses HEK293 cell line to test each batch of vaccine. HEK stands for "human embryonic kidney". So I'm sorry you didn't know this Father. God bless you. You still don't have to take the second jab. That would be, in my humble opinion, knowingly participating in evil. We will each answer to God so I can't judge your heart.
Then everyone is going to hell especially all the pope, bishops, clergy, religious and laity. So there will be an elite group in heaven of the pure and boring, no lost sheep, the exciting ones. And finally, more than likely you won't be there given all the vaccines and shots you have had over the years that are even more egregious in what you describe. Yes, I will get my second vaccine, because it is the right thing to do so, knowing that it is the right thing and doing it will full consent of the will and with foresight and planning. At least God is bringing good out of an intrinsic evil to test the vaccine.
I don't presume to know who will be in heaven or hell. If I received unethical vaccines unknowingly that is one thing, but to do so with full knowledge would be my choice to participate in evil. You have a chance now to courageously take a stand. God bless you, Father. You are one of the Blessed Mother's chosen sons. Please don't lead your flock into perdition. I beg of you.
Here again, facts matter. Here are the facts regarding_both_vaccines as far as use of aborted fetus cells in production and testing is concerned:
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/you-asked-we-answered-do-the-covid-19-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-cells
P.S. The link contains the following important statement:
“Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue.”
The vaccine is not made using HEK293. It is tested on HEK293. So is Benedryl, yall. Many OTC drugs are. Do you do this everyone time someone pops an aspirin? When was the last time you protested outside CVS?
Have you considered that Father Allan, a holy man, may have sought the opinion of people far more qualified than anons on the internet? Do you not think that his decision was made after prayer and discernment?
Yall need Jesus. The Real Jesus.
I will pray for you, Father. You are lost.God bless you.
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