Wednesday, March 15, 2023


When I was in the seminary in the late 1970’s in a very progressive seminary, quite Pope Francis, at the time and ahead of its time in the backwardness of the 1970’s we experience in the present, we were immersed in speculative theology and the heritage of Protestant liberalism of the late 1800’s, especially that brand of theology that wanted to strip the post-resurrection narrative of the New Testament and the Gospels to get back to the real, historical Jesus independent of 20/20 hindsight that the Holy Spirit brought to the sacred authors of the Gospels. 

In other words, Jesus was a product of his time, probably quite unaware of His divinity and capable of growth in truth. If the historical Jesus returned to the present, he would embrace the culture, especially the ideology of inclusivity proclaimed by the secular world. This then opens the Church to radical change, because Jesus is just a dead hero and the starting point for the Church today, not the 2,000 years of Scripture and Tradition, the Deposit of Fait all built upon the illusion of a post-Resurrection Jesus which has nothing in common with His historicity. 

In additon to that, the emphasis isn’t on the other world and salvation, but rather Marxist utopian eschatology to bring about the perfect world here and now. Thus one did not need to believe in the resurrection, only the historical Jesus and what he accomplished in ushering in the Kingdom now, the Church true priority.

Thus read Edward Pentin’s interview with three theologians concerning the 10 decade, I mean, year papacy of Pope Francis HERE
Here’s a money byte:

Three esteemed commentators on Francis and the Church: Italian theologian Father Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Congregation for the Causes of Saints; Riccardo Cascioli, editor of the Italian Catholic daily La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana; and Francis biographer Massimo Borghesi, author of Catholic Discordance: Neoconservatism vs. the Field Hospital Church of Pope FrancisHere below are their responses.

 Pentin: Do you think these revelations were Providential, could they have been intentionally revealed?

FATHER BUX: Above everything there is a divine intention which causes that which is hidden to be manifested. Not praxis, but faith is the victory that overcomes the world (1 John 5:4). If Pope Francis follows the “agenda” of Cardinal Martini, who stated that the Church had fallen behind by 200 years, it means he is not interested in the Church as the Mystical Body (this year marks the 80th anniversary of Pius XII’s famous encyclical Mystici Corporis Christi) that is, connected to its head, Jesus Christ. In fact, Francis never talks about the crisis of faith. He does not consider it worthy of attention. Thus his reform has feet of clay, that is, it is based on ideological and worldly assumptions such as those of equality and universal fraternity, slogans of the French Revolution — originally Christian, but detached from the root that is faith and therefore incapable of implementation and generating action. He believes that preaching fraternity will stop wars. As soon as he published Fratelli Tutti, the Russian-Ukrainian war broke out. Instead, the Pope must preach God and His Sonship, perfectly implemented in Jesus Christ. That is, one must proclaim the Son, so that men may be converted and become sons, in the Son, of the One Father. This is the condition of peace, for the peacemakers will be called sons of God, Jesus said. Then they will realize that they are brothers.

CASCIOLI: Frankly, it is difficult to know. What seems certain to me is that he clearly had in mind an agenda of his own with reforms, starting with the pontificate itself, which has become highly secularized in these 10 years. The determination and systematicity with which he destroyed the legacy of St. John Paul II and even Benedict XVI is revealing. On the other hand, when one starts processes — which is his stated will — they can easily get out of hand. Such is the case with the German Church, which has been offered an inch and is taking a mile. It seems to me that the German Synod’s charge forward risks ruining Francis’ plan to bring the German Church’s demands into the Synod on Synodality to act as a driving force for the whole Church.

BORGHESI: There is perfect continuity between Francis and Benedict XVI when it comes to the intention to bring clarity within the Church, bringing to light the grave sins that have been hidden over the past 50 years. The “filth within the Church,” which Cardinal Ratzinger spoke of before his election as Pope, is an intolerable stain. The fact that the misdeeds of priests and religious have been hidden for so long reveals a “clerical” conception of the Church, that of a closed world that considers itself perfect, immune from all sin.


Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

"...Marist utopian eschatology..."

Would that the the S.M. (Society of Mary) Marists, or the F.M.S. (Fratres Maristae a Scholis- Marist Brothers of the Schools) Marists.

I didn't know either one espoused a utopian ideology....

TJM said...

BORGHESI: There is perfect continuity between Francis and Benedict XVI when it comes to the intention to bring clarity within the Church

LOL, right there you have the Mark Thomas of theology. To say that Benedict's lucidity and precision in expressing himself is the same as Francis' style of expressing himself defies belief. Then we have Traditiones Crudeles (Custodes).

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

FRMJK, go to the eye doctor for a new prescription, that has always helped me.

TJM said...

LOL!! Good one, Father McDonald

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

Fr. ALLAN McDonald - Glad you were able to make the correction. I didn't think you intended to blame the Marists.

TJM said...

Fr K,

Nice try but he did call them Marxists not Marists

Anonymous said...

Father McDonald, thank you for this thread.

In regard to opinions about Pope Francis: I place then-Pope Emeritus' opinions of Pope Francis at the top of that list.

-- Pope Emeritus had heaped praise upon Pope Francis — both as Jorge Bergoglio the man, as well as Jorge Bergoglio the Pope.

-- Pope Emeritus rejected the unfortunate claim that Pope Francis had broken continuity with his (Pope Benedict XVI's) Pontificate. Pope Emeritus had rejected attempts that pitted Pope Francis, and Emeritus, against each other.

-- Pope Emeritus insisted that his former Pontificate, and Pope Francis' Pontificate, were in continuity with each other.

Even following his having fallen asleep in the Lord, Pope Emeritus has praised Pope Francis.

In his book that has been published posthumously, Pope Emeritus declared:

"At the end of my reflections, I want to thank Pope Francis for everything he does to constantly display the light of God, which, even today, has not faded. Thank you, Holy Father!"


Mark Thomas

TJM said...

Mark Thomas,

LOL. When are you going to apologize to Father McDonald for lying about his statement? Until then we view your posts as coming from a liar

TJM said...

Hey Father K,

Is this a relative of yours who changed the "K" to a "C"? She certainly supports your values and sounds "nice:"

"Democrat Nebraska State Senator Machaela Cavanaugh has vowed to filibuster all bills unless Republicans back down on bills that would ban abortion and transgender surgeries and hormones for minors."

Your Party certainly seems fixated on killing the unborn and mutilating children to advance the latest mental illness du jour!

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

TJM - You would know all about the mental illness du jour, n'est pas?

TJM said...

Fr K,

Your French is as deplorable as your Latin. It is: n’est-ce pas. But I would expect nothing less from a corrupt priest who votes for the Party of Moloch where abortion is “healthcare” and mutilating young children for gender ideology is de rigueur which the Pope claims to reject

TJM said...

This is why Father K loves Biden:

"President Joe Biden’s self-delusion seems to be boundless. When he looks in the mirror, he apparently sees an upright Irish Catholic true to the historic values of his deeply rooted religious identity," Ruth Dudley Edwards wrote in the Telegraph. "He is, in fact, an appalling Catholic who publicly flouts the church’s most cherished teachings and is about as authentically Irish as a leprechaun hat in a St Patrick’s Day parade."

That appeared in the Telegraph, so even overseas they are on to this fraudster.

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

TJM is wrong again. He takes perverse glee in misrepresenting my beliefs, as he has done in his post from March 17, 2023 at 10:07 AM.