These are the new altar and ambo at Vienna’s magnificent cathedral. Compare the new altar being consecrated with the one behind it. The new one’s a joke, right?
And popes and bishops wonder why so many question the validity of Vatican II!
"The tradition in the Roman liturgy of placing relics of martyrs or other saints beneath the altar should be preserved, if possible. But the following should be noted:
"a. such relics should be of a size sufficient for them to be recognized as parts of human bodies; hence excessively small relics of one or more saints must not be placed beneath the altar;
"b. the greatest care must be taken to determine whether the relics in question are authentic; it is better for an altar to be dedicated without relics than to have relics of doubtful authenticity placed beneath it;
"c. a reliquary must not be placed upon the altar or set into the table of the altar; it must be placed beneath the table of the altar, as the design of the altar permits."
The best thing to say regarding these gimcrack perspex structures, cheap and nasty as they are, is that they do not have a look of permanence and when sanity prevails can be returned to the set of Star Trek where they properly belong.
The placing of reliquaries on the mensa or gradine, especially on more solemn occasions, is in the tradition of the Roman Rite and is still in evidence, not least in St Peter's, Rome.
All I'm going to say is that is offensively childish and the traditional vestiture adds to the silliness of that photo set.
I believe one of the synodal questions is "What is the Holy Spirit asking of us?", or something substantially similar. I have a proper answer, however my sarcastic answer is "not that".
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Who comes up with these designs and who approves them?
And yet the vestments look very traditional...doesn't add up...
The altar matches his “orthodoxy”
Are these women cleaning ladies or part of the “ritual?”
Where are the relics in that altar?
The saints want no part of that altar!
"The tradition in the Roman liturgy of placing relics of martyrs or other saints beneath the altar should be preserved, if possible. But the following should be noted:
"a. such relics should be of a size sufficient for them to be recognized as parts of human bodies; hence excessively small relics of one or more saints must not be placed beneath the altar;
"b. the greatest care must be taken to determine whether the relics in question are authentic; it is better for an altar to be dedicated without relics than to have relics of doubtful authenticity placed beneath it;
"c. a reliquary must not be placed upon the altar or set into the table of the altar; it must be placed beneath the table of the altar, as the design of the altar permits."
Fr. K, thanks for the details. I had forgotten the part about the size of the relic. So this altar makes me wonder if there is a saint for salad bars.
The best thing to say regarding these gimcrack perspex structures, cheap and nasty as they are, is that they do not have a look of permanence and when sanity prevails can be returned to the set of Star Trek where they properly belong.
The placing of reliquaries on the mensa or gradine, especially on more solemn occasions, is in the tradition of the Roman Rite and is still in evidence, not least in St Peter's, Rome.
Rcg,
LOL!
I sent the Cathedral an email with my opinion of this monstrosity
All I'm going to say is that is offensively childish and the traditional vestiture adds to the silliness of that photo set.
I believe one of the synodal questions is "What is the Holy Spirit asking of us?", or something substantially similar. I have a proper answer, however my sarcastic answer is "not that".
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