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Thursday, January 23, 2020

WHO CARES ABOUT PHILADELPHIA? WHAT ABOUT ATLANTA?

This Hispanic looks white to me:



Crux has a good article on the new Arch HERE.

Rocco Palma at Whispers in the Loggia makes a huge and stupid mistake! Archbishop Chaput is “red” as a Native American, no?

I have a question for Rocco and others, since when is a Cuban American born in Miami considered non White?? Just because he speaks Cuban Spanish???? Are Brazilians who speak Portuguese non White? Are those from Spain non White? Are Italian Americans non white?? What’s up with this Rocco?

Querido Nelson, Welcome Home – Bearing Shades of Krol and Bevy, Cleveland Returns to Philadelphia

Now 212 years into our life as a local church, God's People here in Philadelphia came to accrue an odd distinction in American Catholicism... well, one among others: given the insularity of this place, we've become the last major Stateside diocese that only ever had white bishops....

That is, until now – and the streak ends with a memorable splash onto the Chair of St John Neumann.

12 comments:

John Nolan said...

Like many other PC expressions, 'Native American' for those until recently termed 'Amerindian' is unsatisfactory on more than one count. (Canada refers to 'first nation Canadians' which has the advantage of at least being specific).

'Native American' literally applies to anyone born from Tierra del Fuego to Alaska. In which case 'native' here must be a noun, and its use as such was regarded as mildly disparaging even when (correctly) applied to the indigenous people, as in 'I fear, Carruthers, that the natives are restless.'

What was mildly disparaging in 19th century popular literature would, in today's 'woke' culture, surely count as outrageous racism.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

Redskins is a term used frequently in classic movie and television westerns. I prefer the American usage of Indian which was used in classic westerns. However when using it, you have to qualify it with American Indian or Indian Indian.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

But of course an American Indian could be from India also! It’s all so very confusing!

Anonymous said...

Charles Chaput was born in Concordia, Kansas, one of three children of Joseph and Marian Helen (née DeMarais) Chaput.[7] His father was a French Canadian who was descended from the French saint King Louis IX.[9][10] His mother was a Native American of the Prairie Band Potawatomi tribe; his maternal grandmother was the last member of the family to live on a reservation. Chaput himself was enrolled in the tribe at a young age, taking the name Pietasa ("rustling wind").[9][11]

John said...

Never mind his DNA. Can he say the TLM?

rcg said...

There are modern distinctions currently used by young adults. My daughter was treating a woman who had mild dementia and was complaining about “Indians making noise in the street.” Over the next few days whenever she would relate the event with a millennial present she was asked, “tomahawk Indians or help-desk Indians?”

John Nolan said...

Who were the aboriginal inhabitants of the British Isles? The Celts, after all, were invaders. I'm inclined to the idea that they can still be found in north Wales (a shortish, dark-haired people - south Walians are more obviously Celtic).

It was remarked by Dorothy Sayers in the 1930s (when social Darwinism, eugenics and racialism were fashionable) that the English, being a mongrel people, based their idea of superiority on cultural rather than racial factors.

I don't completely buy into this, since one of the cultural identifiers was Protestantism. The historian David Starkey has likened Brexit to Henry VIII's Reformation. I cannot see the sundering of western Christendom in a positive light.

My objection to 'multiculturalism', shared by John Paul II and Benedict XVI inter alia, is that it denies the fact that our culture (and yours) is European. I work alongside and respect Moslems and certain aspects (not all) of their culture. But I don't identify with it in the least, whereas they, living in Europe, need to compromise with our culture and to a certain extent identify with it.

Anonymous said...

Do you have some inside scoop about Atlanta? I mean, it has been over 8 months since our archbishop departed for the nation's capital, and we have received no updates, no timetable---no transparency in other words! Then again, most parishioners are probably more focused their local parish than what is going on at the chancery.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

Well, a few weeks ago, rumors from reliable and unreliable sources indicated Our bishop would be named. But no recent rumors of anyone.

rcg said...

As long as he isn’t named ‘Sherman’ how bad can it be?

Fr Martin Fox said...

Pretty much everything everyone says about race is BS.

What "race" are you? You think you know. But do you really?

And what difference would it make?


John Nolan said...

Those who play the 'race' card at every opportunity are the only true racists left. The rest of us have moved on. Of course, by calling us racists they might achieve the result of making us so, and it is a not unintended consequence. It simply reinforces their twisted ideology.