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Tuesday, December 13, 2022

THE NATURAL LAW MEANING OF MARRIAGE AND THE IRRELEVANCE OF THE CHURCH IN THE EYES OF THE RELIGION OF SECULARISM

 


Our local news CBS affiliate in Savannah just had a story on our 1960’s Catholic President (not Kennedy but Biden) who just signed the new marriage act law. He said, and I quote loosely, “Marriage is about two people who love each other and are loyal to each other”. That’s it, any two people until it becomes politically expedient to include polygamy and marriage with animals or inanimate objects. 

Poor President Biden, at 80 he shows what liberal 1960’s Catholicism hath wrought! God bless his little heart, as we southerners say.

But, in the past, reporters for local news would have gone to various religous leaders for their comment on such a thing. Savannah is the seat of the Catholic Church and a bishop resides here. 

No religous leader was interviewed, either from the liberal Protestant perspective or the conservative Evangelical or Roman Catholic Perspective. Our bishop was not interviewed.

How do you spell “I-R-R-E-L-E-V-A-N-C-E”?


15 comments:

George said...


If our society today was not so much blinded by sinful behavior, and it's collective conscience not so darkened, what we hold to be true would prevail, because the Truth which is embodied in our Faith, is greater than anything which is in opposition to it because it source is God, from whom all things come, and who is Truth itself.

The forms of inert matter which existed at the beginning of our earth could not of their own bring life into existence. It was the Creator-God who brought all life into being and put into it that life the operative and guiding principles to procreate and "go forth and multiply"and it is in the natural order of all that is sustained in existence by God, that through His marvelous design and His providential workings that life as we know it exists.

A sexual ethos originating from what is true and necessary, which is to say one which is spiritually healthy and rightly ordered, is indispensable to a properly ordered and functioning society . It is one which is selfless and not selfish, and puts the pleasurable aspect of sex in the proper perspective and does not hold to this aspect as an end in itself,but as inseparable to the procreative dimension,the means which God placed into our human nature to bring about new life. The goodness or rightness of an act is not determined on the basis of one's own personal judgement, but what effect it has on the functioning of society if it becomes the norm.

Obedience to the Divine Law it what man is called to do, because in essence it is God we are obeying and not just some statute, since the law we are to obey comes not from man but from God Himself, and this obedience should be our proper and normative spiritual orientation toward what has been Divinely established.

The consequences that result when man's laws and behavior contradict those instituted by God do grave damage to the foundations which are necessary for a just, orderly, and properly functioning society.

john said...

Since the law applies only to civil marriages, and not religious ones, there is no relevance to what religious leaders think. It would be like a state governor commenting on the marriage requirements imposed by the Catholic church for Catholic weddings. Render unto Caesar....

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

John, that’s a valid point, but in my downtown parishes for over 35 years, I was called by the press to make comment on a number of issues that had moral implications. It was common to see on local news clergy being interviewed for various stories. This one, about marriage, and changing the Judeo Christian meaning of it to accomplish political aspirations would qualify for a comment from the relgious community. Often too, reporters would question parishioners after Mass.

Anonymous said...

Father McDonald, has the Diocese issued a press release in regard to President Biden's statement in question? If so, then I would think it likely that the news media would solicit comments from the Diocese. That is my guess.

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ responded:

-- Biden signs same-sex marriage bill into law amid Catholic bishops’ concerns

“Given all this — that the bill establishes an affirmative, enforceable, comprehensive right to federal and interstate recognition of same-sex marriages but sets out religious liberty protections that are far from comprehensive, and are neither affirmative nor enforceable outside of the limited protections in Section 6(b) — it is fair to say that the amendment treats religious liberty as a second-class right.”

Pax.

Mark Thomas

monkmcg said...

The "news" is not about passing on knowledge about the world or the day's activities. It is about establishing/continuing a narrative. They are no longer interested in showing competing perspectives.

Of course, the Roman Catholic Church in this country (and most in the western world) long ago gave up the fight for marriage as a pert of the common good of society. Any reporter intrepid enough to seek religious input is just as likely to get something heretical as he is something orthodox...or some milquetoast drivel designed to offend no one.

Tom Makin said...

Mark and Monkmcg are on point here. Mark is perhaps taking it further by "asking" if the local Ordinary in Savannah, from where this report came, has issued a press release. If not, why not? It begs the question(s).

Jerome Merwick said...

Sin begets more sin.

The idea that sex is merely for our gratification was reinforced by the development and promotion of birth control pills. At the same time, divorce rates continued to climb until "till death do us part" became a meaningless cliche. Both helped destroy the American family. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi took a lot of heat for his research on homosexuality, but almost all of the homosexual men I've known or observed over the years (and that number is considerable) either had absent or abusive fathers. Is it any wonder we are living now in a society where the numbers (an shrill loudness) of the sexually deviant seem to hold sway? it is also a matter of record that pro-homosexual groups put tremendous pressure on the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality as a disorder in the DSM, their diagnostic manual. It became essential to the interested parties that we affirm they are OK, because if we tried to do anything else, include HELPING them deal with it, they might feel bad and...well, we CAN'T have that now, can we?

But it only gets worse. While the Catholic Church has been the last bastion of taking a stand against homosexuality, the ranks of the priesthood have been systematically infested with disordered homosexual men and the most powerful of that cabal are the bishops--not to say that ALL are homosexuals, but many are. Couple that with a sex abuse crisis and the legitimacy and credibility of the Church becomes a public joke as too many of us have watched the contradictory comedy-drama of effeminate, disordered priests ignoring that part of the Catechism that makes them so uncomfortable.

Couple that with the Moloch ritual of abortion. Controversial from its legalization in 1973, we've had at least three generations of Americans who have misunderstood this horror as "civil right" and now demand it, making a corrective course very, very difficult.

No, instead we have the most embarrassing excuse of a president in American history codifying perversion into law.

We are in a bad place. The only way this gets better is by massive repentance, massive turning away from sin and massive responsibility-taking by our Church leaders. I don't expect to see any of those things very soon. I do expect to see something as we continue down this path and, if Katherine Emmerich, Padre Pio, Lucia dos Santos and a multitude of other holy people were right, it's too horrible to imagine.

But hey! We've earned it.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

I don’t know if my bishop has issued a press release or not. FRMJK might know better than me.

TJM said...

Father K is probably grooving on this performer being at the White House. Joe is one helluva Catholic!

"More has come to light regarding the past of the drag queen whom President Joe Biden invited to the White House for the “Respect for Marriage Act” signing this week, including a past tweet in which he said, “kids are out to sing and suck D!"

If the Archbishop of DC does not condemn this after the pains he went to condemn President Trump from visiting a shrine then you know it's time to stop contributing a dime to that Archdiocese and send your money elsewhere. Remember, in DC the TLM is the problem to people like Gregory

Jerome Merwick said...

If the current Archbishop of Washington D.C. doesn't condemn this, it would fall completely in line with the kind of things he promotes and defends.

Why does he promote and defend these rather unnatural causes? I'll give you three guesses and the first two won't count.

Anonymous said...

I believe that it has been more three months since the Diocese of Savannah's last news release...at least on the Diocese's News/Media page. I may be wrong.

Anyway...

https://www.diosav.org/news-media/diocesan-news

-- Update on the Cause of Beatification for Friar Pedro de Corpa and Companions 09-14-2022

-- Clergy Appointments 8-2022 08-25-2022

-- Update on the Use of the Missale Romanum of 1962 07-15-2022

-- Clergy Appointments 7-2022 07-01-2022

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Anonymous said...

To what extent is the Diocese of Savannah able to bypass the "mainstream" news media to make itself known to Her spiritual children...and beyond?

Unless I have not accessed the proper places...

-- On the Diocese's news/media page, September 14, 2022 A.D. marked the date of the last news release.

-- Diocese of Savannah Youtube page: 1,960 subscribers. Last video posted: Two months ago. 173 views.

-- Bishop Stephen Parkes' twitter page: I have not located one.

Pax

Mark Thomas

TJM said...

More lawlessness from the Biden "Justice" Department:

"Associate Attorney General Vanita Gupta said earlier this month that the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division has faced growing “urgency” to work to protect reproductive services, in part by enforcing the FACE Act, following the Supreme Court’s Dobbs v. Jackson decision overturning Roe v. Wade.

In remarks delivered to mark the DOJ division’s 65th anniversary on Dec. 6, Gupta said the Supreme Court’s decision “dealt a devastating blow to women throughout the country.”

The decision, she said, took away the constitutional right to an abortion and increased the “urgency” of the DOJ’s work “including enforcement of the FACE Act, to ensure continued lawful access to reproductive services.”

There was a quaint time when the Department of Justice concentrated on enforcing the law, not using its power to arrest and imprison people to implement a policy option that the Supreme Court has repudiated. They used to call it, let me think, “the rule of law.”

Jerome Merwick said...

TJM,

We have to face up to the fact that we have a government that calls good "bad" and bad is called "good". It's degenerate.

In a recent talk, Father Chad Ripperger said that the two major political parties did not just differ on opinions any more. One of those parties has just become flat-out evil. I used to be a member.

Supporting abortion rights, mutilating children, depriving parents of their decision-making, recognizing perverse liasons as "marriage", baby-killing...you can look at it all as "nuanced" as you please but there is no longer ANY excuse for supporting an organization that has wholly given itself over to the demands of its worst elements.

No excuse.

TJM said...

Jerome Merwick,

Yet we have faux Catholic bishops and priests who do support this flat out evil Party. Birds of a feather. Fyi, I used to be a Democratic Party official before it became flat out evil and Fascist