Make no mistake about it, the LGBTQ++++++++ ideologies know that they have to cooked the nation and the world in their "religion that doesn't called itself a religion" crockpot until all sexual expression is deemed legal and celebrated. This means also the decriminalization of ephebophilia and pedophilia to the point of celebrating it too. Just wait....
Never in my wildest imagination did I ever think that "gay rights" would lead to the "trans" movement, the mutilation of the genitals of children, teens and adults as well as mainstreaming "drag queens" and promoting and celebrating "trans nuns" by a baseball franchise!! Never!
I can remember a time when the main stream media, a few years back, before trans, were outraged and appalled that certain African tribes were into genitalia mutilation of girls. I guess the media now accepts that.
The commercial above from NBC/Universal indicates to me that we are dealing with a religion that doesn't call itself a religion who proselytizes through governmental laws and social pressure in a way that the Catholic Church never proselytized.
I would like a sane discussion on how to deal with a religion that doesn't call itself a religion and is the religion of the state.
But more importantly, I would like to have a sane discussion on how to uphold our Catholic moral teachings in the area of sexuality and gender identity given to us by God at the moment of our conception, and the various sexual disorders that people experience, caused by Original Sin, which then leads to actual sin.
How do we proclaim the love of God for sinners, the inclusion of sinners in the Church in order to lead them to repentance, forgiveness and reconciliation and how sin, chosen and loved, can lead to eternal damnation in hell.
How do we make a sane case for loving the sinner but hating the sin?
How do we do that and still promote the two Greatest Commandments that Jesus teaches?
In other words, do we have to be hateful towards these LGBTQ++++ ideologies that are opposed to the true Faith and true Religion, theirs a religion that doesn't call itself a religion.
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For starters the purpose of being in your face with these obscenities is to provoke a reaction that will justify your oppression.
Unfortunately, the strongest course of action may be cut off from us; to clearly demonstrate these obsessions are mental illnesses. Because the mental health industry was coopted first, a brilliant move, objective psychology is destroyed and all things are now subjective. If objectivity can be reestablished this madness may be controlled. Otherwise, we may experience a terrible backlash against these poor people that is not charitable or helpful in the least.
I doubt that there is anyone among your readers who is as hostile to the entire LGBTQ ethos as myself. I absolutely hate it. However, I am NOT surprised that it has taken us to this point. The logicians and pseudo-intellectuals who insist that the "slippery slope" argument is a logical fallacy are wrong when it comes to certain sins. I am not sure, but I believe it was St. Thomas Aquinas who said, "Evil eventuates in absurdity". I can't think of an age as absurd as the one we live in, which denies reality and enforces falsehoods at the risk of destroying people and their ability to earn a living.
However, as a classroom teacher, I am forced to deal with the reality of the LGBTQ influence on a daily basis. I don't purport to know whether these perversions are something that someone is "born with" or if they are the result of poor child rearing and it really doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that we love the sinner and hate the sin.
Of course, I cannot speak the word "sin" at my job, but that doesn't mean I can't think about it. We live in a world with more broken families than any other time that I can remember and SIN BEGETS MORE SIN. We live in a time when fatherhood is deemed unnecessary as a matter of public policy and THE SINS OF THE PARENTS ARE PASSED ON TO THEIR CHILDREN TO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATIONS. If, as some theorize, male homosexuality is the result of poor or nonexistent relationships with a father figure, why should we then, be surprised at its virtual explosion? 99 percent of the homosexual males I have known in my lifetime had bad relationships or no relationships with their fathers. If sin begets more sin, why should we be surprised that there has been such "diversification" of bestiality, pedophilia, ephebophilia, transexualism (actually sexual dysmorphia) and other perversions?
I try to love the sinners. My students have almost no moral leadership. If they go to any "church" at all, it's usually some "gospel tabernacle of holiness" or Baptist setup where "worship" consists of a lot of loud screaming "music" by congregations dominated by women shouting, "Praise the Lawd!" and "Amen!" The idea of finding God in silence is unthinkable for these kids.
So when I have a male student wearing a dress in my classroom, I ignore it. Noticing it just feeds the need for attention anyway. No one asked me my opinion about it. If he asks me my opinion, I would tell him that he can dress however he wishes. If he asks me about my religious beliefs, I will share them, but carefully so as not to condemn him. My students know I am a Catholic. I don't advertise it, but I don't hide it either. When I see two girls walking down the hallway hand in hand, rubbing each other's behinds, I look the other way and pray for them. These kids are victims. They don't understand what they are doing. They don't understand the implications and consequences of what they are doing. They are confused. They are lost. I despise what they are doing. I cannot bring myself to hate them, however.
I'm sure as heck no saint. But I like the fact that my job challenges me to be a better person than I really am, because that is the only way I can even try to be a "light in the darkness". I can pray between classes. I can set an example. If anyone asks me what my personal beliefs are, I can share them, so long as I qualify such conversations with the caveat, "This is what I believe, and I am not trying to convert you or anyone else. I respect your free will and your right to make your own decisions." Not too many people ever ask me such questions, so I'm probably not doing much good in the way of example. But that is how I try to deal with it.
Jerome Merwick,
You are a brave man. One can lay this at the feet of Teachers Unions headed by a lesbian, a perverted media and the Democratic Party and “who am I to judge!”
Teachers unions vary. I lay this primarily at the parents who reproduce and leave it at that and a culture that is pornographic and degenerate. It's a miracle anyone survives with their sanity.
Jerome Merwick,
Parents are up against the evil juggernaut I described, although I left out a major contributor, Hollyweird. Conservatives are the only ones fighting back and are called “extremists” by this group of crazies
rcg-It was academia that was first co-opted and corrupted by the pseudo-academic fraudulent research of Alfred Kinsey and his like, and then it was soon after publication of his work that much of the medical establishment bought into his pernicious drivel that would prove so detrimental to social mores and to modern society.
And then you had Simone de Beauvoir,Fridan, Greer and others with their contributions to this iniquitous endeavor as well. This was a wave that slowly built up at first, but has become a tidal wave.
Fr. McDonald, what you describe is so real and painful and it must be confronted and rejected. We Catholics, however, are no longer confident in the Church's Sacred Magisterium as our leaders are apparently sympathetic to all of this, especially at the highest levels (a good many of these are actual participants). It is completely demoralizing. Veni, Creatur Spiritus!
Fr Allan,
The following is from the first page of:
Cynical Theories - by James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose.
Ch.4, Queer Theory
- Freedom from the Normal.
"Queer Theory is about liberation from the normal, especially where it comes to norms of gender and sexuality. This is because it regards the very existence of categories of sex, gender and sexuality to be oppressive. Because Queer Theory derives directly from postmodernism, it is radically skeptical that these categories are based in any biological reality. Instead, it sees them quite artificially - wholly as a product of how we talk about these issues. It this ignores biology nearly completely (or places it downstream of socialisation) and focuses upon them as social constructions perpetuated in language. This does little to encourage it's accessibility with most people, who rightly see it as being quite mad.
Queer Theory presumes that oppression follows from categorisation, which arises every time language constructs a sense of what is " normal" by producing and maintaining rigid categories of sex (male and female), gender (masculine and feminine) and sexuality (straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual and so on) and "scripting' people into them.
These seemingly straightforward concepts are seen as oppressive, if not violent, and so the main objective of Queer Theory is to examine, question and subvert them, in order to break them down."
I can recommend reading this whole ch 4, and the whole book "Cynical Theories "..
Interesting, that even honest left of centre political liberals and atheists like Lindsay, Pluckrose and even the philosopher, Peter Bergossian etc can see through this dangerous, occasionally quite insane, Queer Theory.
One helpful place to begin is to recognize that loving the sinner must include rebuke/correction - because love for the sinner requires a desire that the sinner both embrace truth and get to Heaven. No need to be aggressive or abusive, but to speak the truth without hesitation. Second step: refuse to comply. Don't shop at any store/restaurant that flies the freak flag. Walk away from any situation that requires observance or acceptance of the radical agenda. This will be more difficult (near impossible) for those who work for the government (like our brave teacher above in the comments) - they must settle for smaller acts of rebellion that do not risk the well being of the family.
The problem for the Church is how to proclaim that we are all sinners in need of conversion and that Original Sin has brought disorder into the world that affects the most intimate aspects of who we are.
The video I post, though, presents a secular message that appears to be more Christ-like than the message of the Church. Of course, the message is vapid or shallow. But it works to win the minds of the young and of baby-boomers.
The “packaging” of the Church’s message doesn’t do that. That’s a problem.
It seems a lot of us (myself included) have taken the distracting offramp of who to blame. But that is not what Father asked us. His question was, do we have to be hateful to these ideologies? I believe we do, but that is a tightrope walk, because we have to love the sinners who embrace this nonsense, this toxic, perverse nonsense. Of course, loving the sinner also suggests that we offer correction. The problem is, not all of us can. Some people have the authority and the position that permits them to do so, and even DOING so under those circumstances presents tremendous risk in the age of denying reality.
We've assigned the blame. Fine. Maybe some more of us can now discuss what Father actually ASKED us?
The secular human demands evidence of injury from a sin before they will respect it. They won’t acknowledge an adverse outcome until they understand it, which is often too late to be helped. They are convinced that the pleasure derived from sex is not linked to any detrimental outcome. People at that point are so addicted to sex they cannot see how it robs them of their humanity and healthy mental relationship with the rest of society.
Just preach the truth. Do not live by lies. You will be right with Jesus; with secular authoprities, not so much. The choice is yours. The consequences you must endure.
Man in his God-given ability has created pharmaceutical means with the intended purpose to alleviate pain in those with certain maladies or to help those recovering from surgery. But something good can be misused abused. So what was created for a good purpose, if then intentionally used solely for pleasurable effect, can and will result in harmful effects, both physically, psychologically, and spiritually. In corrupting what was meant to do good to instead do what is evil, the person becomes addicted and possessed by the wrongful thing he is doing.
God created sex, which has both a reproductive aspect as well as a pleasurable one. It was created by God solely to be availed of within the committed relationship of marriage, since in this way it would reach it's full, rightful, and meaningful fruition.The Catholic Church teaches that both the unitive and procreative aspects are necessary and inseparable to according to God's just design However, pleasure is of a lower order, and while a good, if it is sought as an end in itself will bring possible harm to a person's physical nature, as well as corrupting one's spiritual life and relationship to God, in addition to adversely affecting the will and intellect.So what we are seeing to today are what results when man's intellect and will becomes darkened by sin so that he will accept and promote those things which are so great in their opposition to what God desires of us.
However, no one is beyond the salvific effects of God's grace,even those who have excluded Him from their lives. Prayer and sacrifice are so necessary to bring Divine grace to touch those who have separated themselves from Him, so that they will come to see the error of their ways and repent and come back to Him.
Thank you for your eloquent statement, Jerome. I must confess that, in contrast to now old-fashioned discussions of “sexual orientation,” I find the entire subject of “gender dysphoria” quite bewildering and, to a considerable extent, somewhat suspect. But I acknowledge that this may be due to my own ignorance. So, what to do? One thing to do is to be guided by the evidence, as opposed to politics or ideology, because the “truth” about a matter cannot be contrary to the God-created order. And it seems that, in the light of accumulating evidence, there are growing doubts about the approaches to “teen gender care” that have been followed hitherto. See, e.g.,
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/04/gender-affirming-care-debate-europe-dutch-protocol/673890/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20230428&utm_term=The%20Atlantic%20Daily
“[G]overnments and medical authorities in at least five [West European] countries that once led the way on gender-affirming treatments for children and adolescents are now reversing course, arguing that the science undergirding these treatments is unproven, and their benefits unclear.”
Sophia here: Father, here is an anecdote, which may help. I was asked by a Psychiatry Residency Director to give a talk to the Residents re Transgender children and adolescents (actually they are gender-confused!) because I am quite knowledgeable re this topic. I eagerly agreed to do so, because I am very invested in accurately informing as many people as I have an opportunity to, about this phenomenon. The Director warned that there would be "pushback".
I began my talk with the following disclosures.
-I am very polite and friendly but not politically correct, since I prefer to be correct!
-I know that there is objective truth/reality!
-Feelings are not facts.
-We would begin with a breathing relaxation exercise to both calm their emotions and oxygenate their brains since I was quite keen on engaging their intellect rather than their emotions although I realize that emotions are inevitable.
Then I announced the topic-the Director had not-and proceeded with the content.
Yes, I did get pushback and I was a bit dismayed by the level of it, but not unfazed because the facts were on my side. In fact one of the Residents was so impressed that he actually proclaimed me "courageous" for being willing to present such a talk to them. The Director called me the following day to thank me again, and told me how much the Residents had enjoyed my talk and that she hoped that I would do more teaching for them.
So what does that have to do with your questions, Father?
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Sophia Cont'd In response to your questions, Father: ".... how to uphold our Catholic moral teachings in the area of sexuality and gender identity given to us by God at the moment of our conception, and the various sexual disorders that people experience, caused by Original Sin, which then leads to actual sin.
How do we proclaim the love of God for sinners, the inclusion of sinners in the Church in order to lead them to repentance, forgiveness and reconciliation and how sin, chosen and loved, can lead to eternal damnation in hell.
How do we make a sane case for loving the sinner but hating the sin?"
May I suggest you remove "how to" from that first paragraph and just preach/do the rest of it "uphold our Catholic moral teaching...."
And similarly, remove the "How do we" from the second paragraph and just preach/do the rest of it, "proclaim the love...."
This is what we all need to hear from our pastors/clergy men-the Gospel truth! That was true two thousand years ago and it still is. That's what sets us free! Human nature cannot change,-just customs, mores, ideologies! Even those who are buying into the lies they are being told because it is so much more palatable to hear that your sufferings can be treated by giving you what you want and better yet that the government, corporations, institutions etc. will destroy anyone who denies you this, need to hear this! They are suffering but lies are not the appropriate treatment- and most often will only lead to more suffering, not just for them but for the entire culture!
As I told the Residents when I gave my talk, if patients cannot expect truth from their doctors-regardless of how much they hate to hear it- from whom can they expect it. Similarly, if we cannot expect truth from our pastors/clergymen-regardless of how much we hate it-from whom should we expect it! It is neither compassionate nor loving to collude with them in their lies, in their sins.
If a bus load of people is heading towards a precipice, it's imperative that we wave a red flag as vigorously as we can and if we are on the bus, even if the passengers are eating, drinking, singing and having a great time that we yell "STOP" as loudly as we can or even grab the wheel and apply the brakes. It is no time to ruminate, wring our hands about how to say "in love" what needs to be said! The problem is not how to say it, the actual problem is that we are not saying it! SAYING it IS the LOVING WAY to say it! I don't know any priest or any actual Christian who does not want people to go to Heaven/avoid the fiery pit! People are not attacking Churches, pregnancy resource centers, Christians, because we are not messaging lovingly, they are doing so because they do not wish to hear that we cannot, that we refuse to, condone what they are doing!
I see Mark is still citing leftwing sources like The Atlantic. Tragic
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