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Monday, January 19, 2026

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE PROBLEM OF THE TLM? CREATE A TLM ORDINARIATE AND START WITH THE FSSP!

IS THAT ROBERT CARDINAL PREVOST CELEBRATING THE TLM AND USING ROMAN VESTMENTS AND HIS GRANDMOTHERS LACE OF AN ALB?????


 It seems to me that maybe a TLM Ordinariate using the existing FSSP is one option for Pope Leo to create in dealing with the problem of the TLM and he could name bishops from the priests of the FSSP or the other orders which primarily celebrate the TLM.

Then His Holiness could allow them entry into any part of the world to set up parishes under a bishop of the TLM Ordinariate as it is done with the Anglican Ordinariate and also with the Eastern Rites, which are in Latin Rite Dioceses, but not under the Latin Rite bishop.


3 comments:

Nick said...

I believe it's been pretty definitively established that Cardinal (Bishop?) Prevost was celebrating a Novus Ordo ad orientem in the pictured Mass. Of primary note--no maniple, and (though this is less conclusive) no pontificals.

The idea of an ordinariate is an interesting, and almost tantalizing, one that could reconcile the various teachings about the worthiness and importance of celebrating the TLM in the modern day with the "unicity" of the Roman Rite. It could also allow traditionalists and non-traditionalists to leave each other alone where necessary and cooperate where possible, as occurs with the "Anglican" ordinariate communities.

But I'm sure there would be unintended negative consequences, and I'm not sure those have really been examined at length.

Nick

William said...

An idea whose time has come? Perhaps so long as all Latin priest have the option to celebrate the Traditional Mass. Or the Pope could simply start appointing members of these traditional groups to the general episcopate.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

AI Overview
Any Catholic priest in good standing can celebrate the Ordinariate Mass, especially when asked to help at an Ordinariate parish, but generally needs permission from both their own diocesan bishop and the Ordinary of the Ordinariate if they are not incardinated into it, while Ordinariate priests can celebrate it anywhere with permission. While any priest can concelebrate, celebrating it publicly or privately usually requires specific permission from the relevant Ordinary (the Ordinariate's bishop) and/or their own diocesan bishop to ensure it aligns with pastoral needs and norms.
Who Can Celebrate
Ordinariate Priests: Priests incardinated into an Ordinariate (like the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter) can celebrate the Mass using the Ordinariate's liturgical books, even outside their specific parishes, with permission.
Diocesan (Latin Rite) Priests: A diocesan priest can celebrate the Ordinariate Mass, but typically requires approval from their own diocesan bishop and the Ordinariate's Ordinary, especially if they are filling in or asked to do so by the community.
Any Catholic Priest: Any priest in good standing can generally concelebrate an Ordinariate Mass.
When Permission is Needed
Filling in for an Ordinariate Parish: A diocesan priest asked to cover for an Ordinariate parish's priest (due to illness, etc.) can celebrate using the Ordinariate Missal.
Private Masses: A Latin Rite priest may not need permission for a private Mass, but for public celebrations, especially outside an Ordinariate parish, permissions are key.
In Summary
The Ordinariate's Divine Worship Mass is a valid form of the Mass, and while any Catholic priest can participate, using its specific liturgical books requires following norms set by the Catholic Church, often involving permissions from the Ordinariate's leadership and the priest's own bishop.