Most Catholics and Protestants do not know that the Catholic Church has many liturgical Rites apart from the Roman Rite. All of these, east and west are in full union with the Bishop of Rome, the pope. The Eastern Rites in union with the pope have parallel Eastern Orthodox Churches not in union with the pope, but their liturgies or Divine Worship are basically identical…
And of course, the Western Rites in union with the pope are more than the so-called Post Vatican II Mass of Bugnini/Paul VI, what some, like Pope Benedict XVI, called a fabricated modern concoction:
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Get rid of the sacrament of Dis-Unity, the Novus Bogus, or give it a major overhaul to reform it into the Rite the Council Fathers intended!
In our Eastern Orthodox Church, we will be celebrating the Nativity of Christ this week. I'm not sure if there are any Rites in communion with the pope who use the Julian Calendar (ByzRus probably knows). Some folks might be interested in what the celebration of the Nativity looks like in the Eastern Liturgical tradition...
Tomorrow - the Vigil of Nativity - we have Royal Hours starting at 9 am, followed by Typica and the Vesperal Liturgy of St. Basil the Great. The Royal Hours are basically a particular way of praying the minor hours (1st, 3rd, 6th, and 9th hours), which is mostly composed of Psalms. The Royal Hours are only appointed for Nativity, Theophany, and Great Friday. So tomorrow morning's liturgical celebration is scheduled to last from around 9 am to 1 pm.
We will reconvene at 10 pm tomorrow night for Vigil followed immediately by the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, which should begin sometime around midnight and last until around 2 am.
Then, since we have all been participating in the Nativity Fast since the Friday after Thanksgiving, we'll have a great feast of meats and cheeses immediately following the liturgy. Usually, we get home around 4 am.
Some churches opt for Liturgy in the morning on Nativity rather than in the middle of the night. But every Church that I'm aware of has these services for the vigil and the feast itself.
If you're curious the rubrics for the services, here are some links:
https://www.saintjonah.org/rub/rub_december24t.htm
https://www.saintjonah.org/lit/lit_nativity.htm
Thanks Marc!
One last thought, Father McDonald. When it came to Liturgy Frances was an ignoramus and malevolent!
https://remnant-tv.com/channel/RemnantTV/video/1563/neo-conned-from-the-vatican-to-venezuela
"Neo-conned" is Michael Matt's latest Remnant Underground TV episode.
Beginning at the 35:00 mark, to the 57:25 mark, Mister Matt expounded upon his prediction from a few weeks ago. That is, Pope Leo XIV will revive Pope Benedict XVI's supposed trick, as had been promoted via the "reform of the reform"/Summorum Pontificum.
Pope Benedict XVI's goal was to destroy the TLM via the eventual creation of a hybrid Mass that was simply a "dolled up" (Michael Matt's words) Latin Novus Ordo.
Pope Benedict XVI, to bring trads aboard the Vatican II revolution, believed that it was necessary to lure trads into the "dolled up" Novus Ordo...promoted as the TLM.
Michael Matt maintained that the difference between Popes Benedict XVI, and Francis (requiescat in pace) was that Pope Francis was honest about modernist Rome's supposed determination to destroy the TLM.
The TLM's destruction is required supposedly if the Church is to implement Vatican II...once and for all.
Pope Francis had gone about modernist Rome's plan in blatant, open, honest, "bull in a china shop" fashion to destroy the TLM, according to Michael Matt.
Pope Francis was an honest, out in the open, fast-motion, Vatican II modernist. Pope Benedict XVI was a slow-motion, sneaky, Vatican II modernist. Pope Leo is a sneaky, slow-motion, Vatican II modernist.
But the three Popes in question, to usher in modernist Rome's New Church/Vatican II Church, were/are determined to destroy the TLM.
Michael Matt, at the 43:45 mark, declared that Pope Benedict XVI was "diabolically disoriented"...as is anybody who accepts Vatican II.
Michael Matt's claims in question are shared by various trads. His video demonstrates that which holy Pope Leo XIV faces in regard to the TLM Movement.
Leading said folks to the truth is, speaking humanly, an all-but-impossible task.
Nevertheless, Pope Leo XIV is in need of prayers as he attempts to lead said liturgical warmongers to embrace liturgical peace.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
There are folks here and elsewhere who have promoted the false claim that
Michael Matt's latest edition of Remnant Underground TV confirmed that Pope Francis (requiescat in pace) had told the truth via Traditionis Custodes.
https://remnant-tv.com/channel/RemnantTV/video/1563/neo-conned-from-the-vatican-to-venezuela
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Pope Francis: "I am nonetheless saddened that the instrumental use of Missale Romanum of 1962 is often characterized by a rejection not only of the liturgical reform, but of the Vatican Council II itself, claiming, with unfounded and unsustainable assertions, that it betrayed the Tradition and the “true Church”.
Michael Matt acknowledged that Trad Inc.'s real war is against Vatican II. The rejection of the Council is the absolute first, and most important, priority of "traditionalists," according to Michael Matt.
New Church, Novus Ordo, modernist Rome, the revolution...everything flows from Vatican II, according to Michael Matt. Therefore, to destroy all of that, trads must attack/reject/destroy the Council.
Michael Matt:
-- :38 second mark...."It's all about Vatican II, baby."
-- 43:35 mark to the 49:20 mark...Pope Benedict XVI was "diabolically disoriented." His goal was to lure folks to accept the Council.
-- 49:00 mark...Summorum Pontificum's was directed primarily at the SSPX, so as to "neutralize the most significant resistance to Vatican II, to the revolution of Vatican II in the Church today."
-- 50:54 mark..."At the end of the day, Summorum Pontificum backfires, because millions of us, millions of traditional Catholics, snatched the bait without triggering the trap....we never swallowed the Council."
-- 51:38 mark...the Chartres Pilgrimage is the greatest example of how Trad Inc.'s war against the Vatican II revolution works.
-- 52:45...trads were at war with Joseph Ratzinger as "he never stopped pushing Vatican II...that was his agenda, pushing the Council."
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As I had noted here a few months ago, even radtrad Pope Francis hater Louie Verrecchio declared:
"No, it cannot be said that the questionnaire results served as the alleged “foundation” for Traditionis Custodes. So, what is? "IT’S THE COUNCIL, STUPID!
"Bergoglio was very clear, his decision to suppress the Traditional Latin Mass rested squarely on Vatican Council II, which was mentioned no less than twenty times between Traditionis Custodes and the letter to bishops that accompanied it."
Michael Matt has confirmed the above.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Francis was the liturgical warmonger and only the braindead or corrupt would see it otherwise.
Come on MT! Certainly you can find more radical people to quote, like the German bishops.
Father McDonald said..."Come on MT! Certainly you can find more radical people to quote, like the German bishops."
Father, I will check into that.
In the meantime, I pray that each bishop in Germany will stand always with His Holiness. Pope Leo XIV is to be obeyed.
Thank you.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT Suit has to be one of the most intellectually dishonest around. Summorum Pontificum promoted liturgical peace whereas TC promoted liturgical war and pain and suffering.
In regard to Michael Matt's latest edition of Remnant Underground TV:
https://remnant-tv.com/channel/RemnantTV/video/1563/neo-conned-from-the-vatican-to-venezuela
Perhaps the most important thing that he had revealed:
-- 50:54 mark:
"At the end of the day, Summorum Pontificum backfires, because millions of us, millions of traditional Catholics, snatched the bait without triggering the trap....we never swallowed the Council."
Michael Matt confirmed that trads had "snatched the bait" that Pope Benedict XVI had offered them supposedly. That is, Pope Benedict XVI had offered trads the TLM in exchange for the positive recognition of Vatican II/liturgical reform from trads.
Trads had employed certain parts of Summorum Pontificum to their favor, while having rejected said document's promotion of the Council, as well as the Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI.
Example: Trads had seized upon the notion that the TLM had not been abrogated....but had rejected the overall document.
Michael Matt acknowledged that trads had weaponized the TLM/Summorum Pontificum. That, confirmed the following from Pope Francis:
"An opportunity offered by St. John Paul II and, with even greater magnanimity, by Benedict XVI...was exploited to widen the gaps, reinforce the divergences, and encourage disagreements that injure the Church, block her path, and expose her to the peril of division."
"...the instrumental use of Missale Romanum of 1962 is often characterized by a rejection not only of the liturgical reform, but of the Vatican Council II..."
Traditionis Custodes, as Michael Matt has confirmed, is based upon truth.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT Suit you have convinced no one with this blather! Give it up
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