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Monday, January 12, 2026

ARE CATHOLICS WHO LOVE AND PROTECT ORTHODOXY THE LATE POPE FRANCIS HATERS?


I have never hated Pope Francis, RIP, but I joined many clergy and laity who did not like His Holiness’ modus operandi and His Holiness’ penchant to return the Church of the last 12 years to a polarization not seen since the papacy of St. Pope Paul VI. 

There were many moderate academic theologians sounding the alarm bell about Pope Francis confusion and incoherence. And then there were many cardinals and bishops doing the same thing, in particular four: Cardinals Zen, Pell, Burke and Sarah, but many others too. 

To give Pope Paul a break, he too was derided by heterodox hippie clergy and laity of the 60’s and 70’s too, especially beginning in 1968 with Humanae Vitae and then subsequent to that, the various liturgy wars as clergy and laity implemented a heterodox implementation of Vatican II, especially by saying that what they were doing is what Vatican II asked, when after actually reading the documents of Vatican II, one on their own could see that clearly Vatican II did not teach that. Truth was sacrificed in an Orwellian way as Pope Leo would describe it.

After the election of Pope Francis, it became quite clear that His Holiness longed for the progressive’s implementation of Vatican II as was being done prior to Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI. Pope Francis clearly preferred the trajectory of the “synodal” underground, progressive Church of the 1960’s and 70’s and longed for a return to that trajectory, a trajectory that most of us felt had been put to rest and under two great popes, one a saint and the other a “should be” saint, John Paul II and Benedict, had brought more peace and calm to the Church and less polarization, although the heterodox right and left still existed then as they do now, but now on steroids thanks to Pope Francis.

For me, Cardinal Zen, no Francis hater, but a lover of Divine Truth and the Deposit of Faith of the Catholic Church and thus a lover of the Risen Lord, the Head of the Church and a lover of the Church, which is His body, made clear exactly what I’ve been feeling about Pope Francis’ papacy, that it suffered from the Original Sin of Adam and Eve, the deadly sin of pride. 

Let’s review Cardinal Zen’s marvelous, brief elocution to Pope Leo and the College of Cardinals at the recent consistory. It is a road map out the heterodoxy of the left that has magnified in the last 12 years.

This is an AI summary of Cardinal Zen’s critique of Pope Francis’ papacy. A critique is not hatred, although the heterodox for ideological purposes would call it that to bait and switch orthodoxy for heterodoxy:

At the January 7-8, 2026, extraordinary consistory, Cardinal Joseph Zen 
sharply criticized the Synod on Synodality, calling it an "ironclad manipulation" and an "insult to the dignity of the bishops," questioning the Holy Spirit's role in its outcomes and warning it could fracture the Church. The 93-year-old cardinal stated that invoking the Holy Spirit for surprises that contradict 2,000 years of tradition was "ridiculous and almost blasphemous," challenging the idea that lay participants truly represented the entire People of God. 
Key Points of Cardinal Zen's Remarks:
  • Manipulation: He described the synodal process as a form of "ironclad manipulation" of bishops.
  • Blasphemy/Ridiculousness: He found the repeated claims of the Holy Spirit guiding the synod to unexpected conclusions to be "ridiculous and almost blasphemous".
  • Dignity of Bishops: Zen felt the process insulted the inherent dignity of bishops by sidelining their traditional role.
  • Divisions: He warned that differing interpretations, especially regarding contextual adaptations, could lead to schism, similar to the Anglican Communion.
  • Questioned Representation: He doubted whether any pope could truly "listen to the entire People of God" through the synodal process or if the lay delegates accurately represented everyone.
  • Pope Leo XIV's Synodality: He contrasted "Bergoglian synodality" with the traditional role of the Synod of Bishops, suggesting Pope Francis had made the institution disappear by incorporating non-bishops. 
Context:
  • These comments were made during the first major meeting of Pope Leo XIV with 170 cardinals, a closed-door session where cardinals were asked to maintain confidentiality, leading to a lack of official Vatican comments on Zen's strong criticisms. 


21 comments:

TJM said...

Like Cardinal Pell, Cardinal Zen has suffered for the Faith and is a fearless voice. His voice should carry more weight than those of the little feather duster cardinals prancing around the Vatican. Zen also supports the masculine form of the Latin Rite, the TLM

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

Re: Your silly headline photo which comes from your TDS:

Statement from the Nobel Committee
Is it possible to revoke a Nobel Peace Prize?
It is not possible to revoke a Nobel Peace Prize. Neither Alfred Nobel’s will nor the Statutes of the Nobel Foundation mention any such possibility.

According to the Statutes of the Nobel Foundation, § 10, “No appeals may be made against the decision of a prize-awarding body with regard to the award of a prize”.

None of the prize awarding committees in Stockholm and Oslo has ever considered to revoke a prize once awarded.

As a matter of principle, the Norwegian Nobel Committee will not comment upon what the Peace Prize Laureates may say and do after they have been awarded the prize. The Committee’s mandate is restricted to evaluate the work and efforts of the nominated candidates up to the moment it is decided who shall be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for a given year.

A Nobel Prize can neither be revoked, shared, nor transferred to others. Once the announcement has been made, the decision stands for all time.

This does not prevent the Committee from following the future endeavours of laureates closely, even though it expresses neither its concerns nor its acclamation.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

That she’s going to do this really bothers you. Interesting.🧐

Mark Thomas said...

From: The Catholic Herald:

-- Inside the consistory: how cardinals viewed Leo XIV’s first gathering

https://clericalwhispers.blogspot.com/2026/01/inside-consistory-how-cardinals-viewed.html

"Significantly, one cardinal told The Catholic Herald that...While the liturgy was put aside,” the cardinal said, “we were given a paper at the end written by Cardinal Arthur Roche, which was pretty negative concerning the TLM.”

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"In a final reflection offered to The Catholic Herald at the close of the consistory, Cardinal Müller..."The Church of Benedict doesn’t exist anymore,” he said, offering a sober assessment of the road ahead."

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

Fr. ALLAN McDonald - She can't do it. That you think she can is what is "interesting."

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

She may not do it but she can certainly give him the physical award.

TJM said...

What's interesting is that a guy who votes for abortion as healthcare is still a priest. K are you enjoying the true Insurrection going on Minnesota? Have you no decency, have you no shame?

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

It’s Leo’s Church and we don’t know yet the specifics of his TLM allowances. But it indeed is no longer Benedict’s or Francis’ Church as they are both dead. It isn’t Leo’s Church. She belongs to Christ!

Mark Thomas said...

As The Catholic Herald noted:

"...the cardinal said, “we were given a paper at the end written by Cardinal Arthur Roche, which was pretty negative concerning the TLM.”

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The Catholic Herald editorialized:

"...this development points to a downward trajectory in the Holy See’s present approach to the traditional Latin Mass."

"The fact that a critical assessment was introduced in written form, rather than tested through frank exchange on the floor, will be read by many as a sign that the direction of travel is already being set."

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Father McDonald had speculated..."Having had an audience with Pope Leo hours before the Consistory began, I can’t imagine that Cardinal Zen would not have informed His Holiness about his plans to say what His Eminence said at the Consistory."

In line with the above speculation, would Cardinal Roche have dared to circulate, without Pope Leo XIV's knowledge, in written form to the Cardinals, a negative assessment of the TLM?

Again, at the very least, The Catholic Herald has offered that "...this development points to a downward trajectory in the Holy See’s present approach to the traditional Latin Mass."

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Whether Pope Leo XIV holds to that is unknown. But the following may offer support to The Catholic Herald's opinion in question:

Various members of Trad Inc. were alarmed when Pope Leo XIV tipped his hand supposedly in regard to his attitude toward the TLM as he offered Trads the Latin Mass via the Novus Ordo...

"Well, you can say Mass in Latin right now. If it’s the Vatican II rite there’s no problem."

Such Trad Inc. leaders as Michael Matt have offered that Pope Leo XIV will revive Pope Benedict XVI's supposed trick. That is, a "dolled up," reform-of-the-reform, Novus Ordo /"TLM" that is supposed to anesthetize trads to lure them into New Church's Vatican II Revolution.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Mark Thomas said...

The Catholic Herald: Cardinal Müller..."The Church of Benedict doesn’t exist anymore,” he said, offering a sober assessment of the road ahead."

Perhaps he meant the notion that certain Pope Benedict XVI "fans" have advanced. That is, only Pope Benedict XVI's interpretation/implementation of the Council counts...only his approach to the TLM, via Summorum Pontificum's restoration, counts...only his manner of liturgical reform counts...only his supposed personal view, that the Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI constitutes the "Nervous Disorder," counts.

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Cardinal Müller's assessment that "The Church of Benedict doesn’t exist anymore,” is at odds with Pope Leo XIV's wonderful assessment last week that Pope Francis (requiescat in pace) had carried forward Pope Benedict XVI's holy Pontificate.

Pope Leo XIV last week shattered the absurd claim that Big Bad Bergoglio had "cancelled" Pope Benedict XVI.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

Here’s some common sense:
Cardinal Pizzaballa told The Catholic Herald: “These are typical problems of Western countries. We in general [the Church in the East] are so used to different rites that we don’t see any problem [with the TLM].” While his perspective on the Traditional Latin Mass may have unsettled some conservative readers, when the topic of synodality arose he added: “Reform is not a Church language.”

Mark Thomas said...

As Pope Leo XIV had made clear last week, the so-called "Church of Benedict," (if, by that, Cardinal Müller had meant "Pontificate") is not dead.

Pope Leo XIV has made it clear that Pope Benedict XVI's Pontificate continued via Pope Francis' (requiescat in pace) Pontificate — and today, via Pope Leo XIV.

As Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI had made clear via journalist Peter Seewald:

Peter Seewald: "So you do not see any kind of break with your pontificate?"

Pope (Emeritus) Benedict XVI: "No. I mean, one can of course misinterpret in places, with the intention of saying that everything has been turned on its head now.

"If one isolates things, takes them out of context, one can construct opposites, but not if one looks at the whole.

"There may be a different emphasis, of course, but no opposition."

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From Pontificate to Pontificate, different emphases exist. But as Pope Emeritus had made clear, and confirmed last week by Pope Leo XIV, Pope Benedict XVI's holy Pontificate has continued via Pope Francis

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

MT, you continue to suffer from papal idolatry and making every opinion of a reigning pope into an infallible statement—the heresy of creeping infallibility. Cardinal Zen’s intervention at the Consistory was approved by Pope Leo, as Cardinal Zen out of respect for Pope Leo would not have delivered such a broadside to Leo’s predecessor without informing the pope at his private audience with him. Pope Leo gave him the go ahead. And then, Cardinal Zen released what he said to a media outlet, of course with the permission of Pope Leo. Pope Leo offered a partial opinion about Pope Francis and then stated an opinion, which your statement does not accurately reflect his actual words, that there is continuity between the popes in the promotion of Vatican II.

Only a deaf and blind person would say that there are no grounds, based in verifiable fact, that Pope Francis’ form of synodality, did not use manipulation, change the nature of Synodality as desired by Pope Paul VI, John Paul II and Benedict XVI.

Opinions of popes cannot be made infallible nor are they authoritative. Only a heterodox Catholic would say that papal opinions are authoritative at the least, or worse, infallible!

Mark Thomas said...

Father McDonald said..."Cardinal Zen’s intervention at the Consistory was approved by Pope Leo...Pope Leo gave him the go ahead."

Father, has the above been confirmed by Rome? I have not encountered any reliable confirmation in regard to your claim in question. But should your claim prove valid, then I would most certainly acknowledge that.

But let us say that you are correct. It is, therefore, bizarre that, on January 7th, Pope Leo XIV had authorize Cardinal Zen's intervention in question...

...then, on January 9th, Pope Leo XIV shattered, destroyed, contradicted in undeniable fashion, said intervention. His Holiness declared:

"This past year saw...the return to the Father’s house of my venerable predecessor, Pope Francis...who had guided the People of God with immense pastoral charity."

To the Curia, Pope Leo XIV had declared:

"I wish first of all to remember my beloved predecessor, Pope Francis...His prophetic voice, pastoral style and rich magisterium have marked the Church’s journey in recent years..."

Pope Leo XIV's above declarations stand in total contradiction to Cardinal Zen's intervention in question.

From the dawn of his Pontificate to date, Pope Leo XIV has insisted that Pope Francis (requiescat in pace) was a holy man, is in Heaven, conducted a magnificent Pontificate, and had "guided the People of God with immense pastoral charity."

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

Pope Francis has not been canonized by Pope Leo although you imply that Pope Leo did. That is false. And your entire last paragraph is not authoritative magisterial teachings of Pope Leo, it is an opinion that his held to the contrary by other opinions, but all opinions.

Mark Thomas said...

Father McDonald said..."Pope Francis has not been canonized by Pope Leo although you imply that Pope Leo did. That is false."

Father, I never implied that. Not remotely. I am not sure why you have lodged that claim against me.

I reported simply that which Pope Leo XIV had proclaimed last week, and additional times, in regard to his declarations related to Pope Francis (requiescat in pace.)

Pope Leo XIV, two days after he had "authorized" supposedly Cardinal Zen's blistering intervention in question, kicked said intervention to with curb, when His Holiness declared:

"This past year saw...the return to the Father’s house of my venerable predecessor, Pope Francis...who had guided the People of God with immense pastoral charity."

Those are holy Pope Leo's words, not mine, which you have rejected.

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Father McDonald said..."And your entire last paragraph is not authoritative magisterial teachings of Pope Leo, it is an opinion that his held to the contrary by other opinions, but all opinions."

Who said that the last paragraph constituted "magisterial teachings of Pope Leo"?

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Father, it is interesting that you have long couched blistering negativity that various folks aimed at Pope Francis (requiescat in pace) as first-rate, spot-on, commentaries.

But unlike your comments in regard to Pope Leo's pro-Pope Francis declarations, I do not recall that you had offered such a disclaimer as:

"The bashing of Pope Francis that you are about to read consists of mere opinions.

A Pooe

Mark Thomas said...

"Said bash of Pope Francis is not Magisterial. Again, they are one person's mere opinions...opinions."

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Mark Thomas said...

Father McDonald said..."I have never hated Pope Francis, RIP, but I joined many clergy and laity who did not like His Holiness’ modus operandi..."

Father, you probably are unaware the following: I never hated Pope Francis (requiescat in pace) either. I know that that is difficult to believe.

-:)

I have joined Pope Leo XIV, as well as Pope (Emeritus) Benedict XVI, who have/had praised Pope Francis' modus operandi to the hilt.

I share my love and high regard for Pope Francis with countless among my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ. Father, that includes your bishop, my bishop, each priest at my parish and surrounding parishes whom I have met.

Father, I am sorry, truly so, that you have distanced yourself from the above circle. To have your holy and illustrious presence in that circle would be great.

Fortunately, you and I share great love and respect in regard to Pope Leo XIV.

I am thankful for that.

Pax.

Mark Thomas


— Pope Saint Pius X:

"Therefore, when we love the Pope, there are no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go, and in what things he is to be obeyed...we do not say that he has not spoken clearly enough..."

"...we do not place his orders in doubt...whoever is holy cannot dissent from the Pope."

woundedpig said...

MT, you truly are Rainman personified. You are talking (verbosely) past what Father McD has said and put words in his mouth numerous times in this single post. My respect for Father's patience is greatly amplified. The old timers characterized what you are doing in spades - that is, "arguing with a signpost." You fill this blog with your aimless cutting and pasting, and at the end of the day, generally fail utterly to make any point worth considering.

Nick said...

MT specializes in talking past what others have said, putting words in people's mouths, and then going on with pointless (or blatantly off-point) quote-pasting. And that's not going to change barring a miracle...

Nick

TJM said...

Nick, amen!