George Wiegel gets Vatican II:
The living parts of the world Church today are those that have embraced John Paul II’s and Benedict XVI’s authoritative interpretation of the Council as a summons to evangelize in the fullness of Catholic faith. That’s the empirical fact. And the parallel fact is that the dying parts of the world Church are those that continue to try to make the chimera of Catholic Lite work — which it doesn’t, anywhere.
Read Wiegel’s article on Vatican II and where it is successful and where it isn’t (clue: those places in the West, like Germany and much of Europe are not successful due to their heterodoxy):
Why Vatican II Was Necessary
The Council's many theological and doctrinal accomplishments were crucial to rekindling that radical, Christ-centered faith that would be the source of a revitalized Catholic mission to convert the modern world.
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OCTOBER 26, 2022
Bishop Athanasius Schneider interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally throughout the interview with Steve Bannon this month.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/10/bishop-athanasius-schneider-interpreted.html
So, if I understand what Weigel is getting at it seems that Vatican II was necessary because:
A The Church was "stuck on defense" because of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation
B The hierarchy was too isolated
C It had too many "false forms" of "self-glorification" and
D It was "too logical".
I'm not sure how all the prolix documents and constitutions of this "pastoral" council have presented any solution to these perceived problems.
Since the Church has stopped defending the faith and the faithful, most of us barely know the basics of our faith. But I would agree, the Church sure DOES know how to go on defense when its homosexual clergy gets a taste of adolescent altar boys.
What is meant by an "isolated" hierarchy? Most of the managers in miters seem far less accessible these days, unless you have a fund-raising proposition to present.
Now that the Church no longer glorifies Herself, I can't say we're better off. Once we were the One, True, Church, but the current Peterchair occupant is making us just another denomination. Is THAT success?
Now that we've dispense with any rational discourse on retaining tradition, we can all stop being rigid because it's more important to FEEEEEEEEEEEEL God--right?
Wrong.
Catholic Mission,
It must be confusing to listen to a true bishop than one of the thousands of branch managers we are accustomed to hearing from.
Jerome Merwick,
If the Catholic Church was on defense at the time of the Council, we need more of that defense! At least in the US, the Church was a roaring success, even Hollywood was pandering to the Church: Bells of St. Mary’s, Going My Way, Come to the Stable, the Keys of the Kingdom, The Cardinal, etc.
In my opinion, The Council was called to give relevance to those losers running the Church in continental Europe. Instead of following their lead, Rome should have been looking to the US and England to see why they were successful and the Europeans were not.
The Barque of Peter was designed by God, and built by his holy servants with what He provided to them. It is continually reinforced and strengthened by those of faith through the good works they do. It is made of the most trustworthy of materials able to withstand the strongest tempests and the shortcomings and failings of those within her. It is a vessel in which those on board are participants in its operation, each having their attendant responsibilities. It may veer to and fro at times of imprudent captaincy, and a times seem tenuous in its navigation, but it's orientation is ever Divinely guided and corrected,and those who faithfully remain within her have the full assurance of reaching the safety of their longed for destination- the Eternal homeland.
How great the number there are who in exercising their free will oppose the will of God,yet in the end it is his that Will triumphs.
TJM
I just want to know; After all of these decades, after publishing all of these verbose, tendentious, documents, after repeated generational calls for some sort of "new evangelization", and after all of this empty blather about "journeying" and "accompaniment", just what great dazzling, unbelievable, essential, never-before-revealed insight did Vatican II bring us?
Yeah. I thought so.
Jerome Merwick,
So true. If you have not read it, I highly recommend Dr. Kwasniewski’s latest: The Once and Future Roman Rite. I doubt many in the clergy would even understand it they are so poorly trained in the Faith
@ 5:42 PM
...yet in the end it is his that will triumph.
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