I've written it before, and I'll write it again, what Pope Francis has done and is doing is to remind a completely new generation of Catholics just how divisive and toxic progressive Catholicism truly is. It takes the worst of pre-Vatican II paternalism and authoritarianism by which it imposes its agenda and there are no olive branches offered to those who desire Vatican II as it was intended, in continuity with the best of the pre-Vatican II Church.
Thus, Father Thomas Reese unwittingly hits the nail on the head as it regards the manner in which progressives implement their vision for the Church. They implement it in the most pre-Vatican II authoritarianism way.
Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI, on the other hand, appointed a variety of bishops with different perspectives, thus offering olive branches to the progressive side of the Church. How many of Pope Francis' appointments of bishops and cardinals reflect the fairness of the last two popes?
John Allen also highlights for us the divisiveness of Pope Francis' authoritarianism. It may be the case that His Holiness is the puppet of others with a divisive agenda but I don't buy that. If a parish priest managed to divide his parish in the most polarizing manner in which Pope Francis has divided the Church, that divisiveness would be dealt with in a decisive way, no?
New cardinals: The men are the message
All of these cardinals embody in one way or another Francis' vision for the church. Besides giving them a red beretta on Oct. 5, Francis will be giving them megaphones to proclaim his vision of the gospel to today's church and world. But even before the cardinals speak, by selecting them Francis has made them the message.
Opponents of the pope will not like the message. But those who do not like these appointments should remember that almost all of them were made bishops or Vatican officials by Benedict or John Paul. (Read the rest by pressing the title above)
Beyond the US, the Top Five countries for beefs with the Pope
DENVER (CO)
Crux
September 15, 2019
By John L. Allen Jr.
Rome - Responding to a mini-fracas set off by his recent declaration that he considers it “an honor when Americans are attacking me,” Pope Francis told reporters during an inflight news conference Tuesday that the U.S. is not his only source of heartburn.
“Criticism comes not only from the Americans, they’re coming from all over,” Francis said.
The comment got me thinking: If we take the U.S. off the table, what are the other countries where criticism of this pope seems most robust? (Press title for the rest)
Crux
September 15, 2019
By John L. Allen Jr.
Rome - Responding to a mini-fracas set off by his recent declaration that he considers it “an honor when Americans are attacking me,” Pope Francis told reporters during an inflight news conference Tuesday that the U.S. is not his only source of heartburn.
“Criticism comes not only from the Americans, they’re coming from all over,” Francis said.
The comment got me thinking: If we take the U.S. off the table, what are the other countries where criticism of this pope seems most robust? (Press title for the rest)
10 comments:
I hope they are happy with even emptier churches and less money
If only there were a canonical way to be able to deal with such problems ;)
Well, when a pope appoints a bishop, how does he really know whether ABC is the right choice? Has the pope visited the diocese where there is a vacancy? Almost certainly not. Does he interview the candidates? To my surprise (I learned this later in life), there are no interviews of candidates at all. (I could not imagine hiring someone for any job position at least without an interview, seeing how they perform, what their goals are and so on, or at least meeting the person). The process has all the transparency of a CIA briefing or an initiation at a local country club. Here in Atlanta (where there is a vacancy), we have no word of a timetable. But then again, the average parishioner is more attuned to his or her local parish and probably doesn't pay attention to the whole process, not really caring who the local bishop is unless there is some scandal.
Ahhh...complaints about a Pope who stacks the deck with bishops that certain folks perceive as progressive/liberal.
Let us return to 1962 A.D. From the diary of the great theologian Monsignor Joseph Clifford Fenton:
-- Secretary of the Catholic Theological Society of America.
-- Doctorate in Sacred Theology from the Pontifical University of Saint Thomas Aquinas, Angelicum in Rome in 1931 A.D.
-- Papal chamberlain, 1951 A.D.
-- Domestic prelate, 1954 A.D.
-- Papal medal, Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice, 1954 A.D.
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Father Fenton, 1962 A.D.
"Since the death of [Pope] St. Pius X the Church has been directed by weak and liberal popes, who have flooded the hierarchy with unworthy and stupid men."
Pope Francis is in good company as he has stands with such liberals as Popes Saint John XXIII, Venerable Pius XII, Pius XI, and Benedict XV.
:-)
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Sorry MT. Your use of Father Fenton does not mean that he would not be saying today that the horror of Francis is not the direct result of the stacking of the deck which he mentions.
He was horrified at VII, and I think he would still be horrified.
To make it clearer MT, you just used a priest that was horrified at the "unworthy and stupid men" placed in positions of power, to defend the guy that is the FRUIT of all those faithless men.
Anonymous Dan said..."He was horrified at VII, and I think he would still be horrified."
Our holy Popes, from Saint John XXIII to Francis, rejected Father Fenton's assessment of the Second Sacred Vatican Ecumenical Council.
Among said Popes, the greatest promoter of Vatican II, based upon longevity, has been Pope Benedict XVI.
He has insisted that the authentic Council has heaped tremendous blessings upon us.
His support for the authentic Council has been unrelenting.
Yes, we should be horrified at the fake Vatican II that has prevailed through much of the West.
But as our holy Popes in question — in particular, Pope Emertius Benedict XVI — have taught, the real Vatican II was a beautiful, orthodox Council in line with Holy Tradition.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Dan said..."He was horrified at VII, and I think he would still be horrified."
One thing is certain: Father Fenton's opinion of the Council does not apply to the tremendous manner in which Vatican II has renewed the Church in Africa and Asia.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT,
LOL. Vatican II was an unmitigated disaster and your ill conceived posts confirm it daily. Catholics were far better educated in their faith prior to the Council, the Church did far more good and reached far more people. You really need to close your failing minstrel show and move on, you are convincing no one with your non responsive strings of non sequiturs. Hell, you can’t even answer what PF has done to discipline the Vatican clerics involved in a cocaine fueled gay sex orgy
Rejected by Holy Popes???
Why use him in your argument in support of Francis?
Use Jack Chick maybe?
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