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Thursday, September 26, 2019

DRAW JOPPING, I MEAN, JAW DROPPING! A PROGRESSIVE PRIEST LITURGIST AGREES WITH CARDINAL BURKE ON THE AMAZON SYNOD!!! THE APOCALYPSE IS NEXT!


Fr. Anthony Ruff, OSB, of Praysniff, I mean, Praytell, actually agrees with Cardinal Burke!!!!!! Read what he says:

  • My concerns about the synod preparatory document? To varying extents, I actually share every concern articulated by Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider. They’ve usefully pulled together the most problematic bits all in one place. I’m hoping a good synod discussion starting with great sensitivity to the local culture and respect for their ways of doing theology and worshiping can still affirm the centrality of Christ and the Gospel, which must transform all cultures including the Amazon. The goal is to bring all to Christ and to the waters of baptism. I hope it’s not too old-fashioned or imperialistic to say that! As I wrote in an editorial Amen Corner I just submitted for our Worship journal, “Christ is the only savior of humanity. In a globalized world that affords heightened awareness of religious and cultural pluralism, we must reaffirm this central truth of Christianity, particularly in progressive circles where it perhaps has weakened.” But Burke’s and Schneider’s approach is not good – it’s overstated, lacking in humility, attacking positions they’ve put in the worst possible light. Could we all please admit that the Catholic Church historically has failed to respect non-western cultures? Could we admit that we have to be open to new approaches in places like the Amazon? And if you analyze the Burke/Schneider claims of heresy with a lawyerly precision, you’ll see that the evidence they proffer does not quite support their charges in any case. And with their manner of attack, setting themselves up as the sole arbiters of truth, they are unlikely to get a fair hearing – meaning the church risks missing out on what is legitimate in their concerns.

10 comments:

Marc said...

I don't think that Burke believes Francis to be an anti-pope.

But the idea that Francis isn't a heretic is preposterous. And popes can't be heretics. So it's most likely Burke is wrong.

Anonymous said...

Bee here:

From the article, "...we must reaffirm this central truth of Christianity, particularly in progressive circles where it perhaps has weakened.” Or perhaps has disappeared...

"Could we all please admit that the Catholic Church historically has failed to respect non-western cultures?" No, we cannot. Because from the first contact with non-Jewish persons, even the early Church did not "respect" "non-western" cultures. The problem with this thinking is that it believes that somehow evangelization began with the movement out of Europe into the rest of the world. It's a Marxist critique, and does not even think of the conversion of say, the Greeks of Galatia, as "not respecting a "non-western" culture.

"Could we admit that we have to be open to new approaches in places like the Amazon?" No, we cannot. Because truth be told, if the Left really believed what they profess to believe, that under the skin and under the culture everybody is the same (because we are all children of God), then they would also believe we can rely on Church teaching that no matter where you go around the whole world, in any human population, you are going to find concupiscence and the effects of original sin. Everywhere. In every culture. And you either believe the morality of the Catholic Church and it's fundamental truth about the human condition, for everyone, everywhere, or you don't. And the Left does not. So, no, we can't think there must be "new approaches" to preaching the Gospel in places like the Amazon.

In all places, in every era, from the beginning of the Church, people of all lands either heard and believed, or they did not. And whatever they chose, that was on them.


God bless.
Bee

Anonymous 2 said...

Why can’t everyone please calm down, clergy included? It is fine and good to express “concern” about possible risks. It is not fine and good to leap to judgment before the event. I, for one, am tired of being intellectually and emotionally “manipulated” by a culture of “outrage” for whatever reason or purpose, whether that manipulation be by politicians or Churchmen. Aren’t we_all_fed up with it? Doesn’t Father Anthony have it right? Aren’t Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider right to express “concern” about possible risks? But don’t they go too far in asserting that these risks have already materialized?

And as for Greta at the U.N., whether contrived political theater from an exploited and troubled teenager—or not—is neither here nor there and does not alter the underlying “facts” and what we should, or should not, do about them one iota.

Let’s keep our proper focus, both regarding the Amazon Synod and the related issue of Climate Change.



John said...

Anon2's comment most likely were written by his/her (!) pet ostrich. The agenda for the Synod has been written and its contents are alarming to Catholics who do not want to embrace heresy.

Marc said...

I think Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider have in mind the manipulation that took place at the so-called Synod on the Family that resulted in the heretical apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

It is not a stretch to imagine that is precisely what will happen with the Amazonian Synod, which is being funded and promoted by the schismatic and heretical German bishops as a way to introduce novelty into the practice of the universal Church.

The risks have already materialized because by introducing such errors into the conversation, the synod condemns itself. Whereas the pope should be the bulwark of the faith to stop such a synod, Francis is stacking the deck by installing liberal churchmen to oversee it.

The Amazonian Synod has nothing to do with climate change.

Anonymous 2 said...

John:

Presumably you mean Father Anthony’s ostrich. In any event:

https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/explore/nature/animal-myths-busted/

Marc:

I.L. # 54. The massive felling of trees, the extermination of the tropical forest by intentional forest fires, the expansion of the agricultural frontier and monocultures are the cause of the current regional climate imbalances, with obvious effects on the global climate, with planetary dimensions such as great droughts and increasingly frequent floods. Pope Francis refers to the Amazon and Congo basins as “lungs of our planet”, underlining the urgency of protecting them (LS 38)




Anonymous 2 said...

Marc:

P.S. “All things are connected.” 


Marc said...

A bunch of bishops from Germany and South America cannot change the climate. They can, however, attempt to change church teaching.

Whatever they have to say about climate change, which is essentially a bunch of pseudo-scientific blather from self-important nincompoops, will have absolutely zero impact on anyone. The whole thing is a guise under which they intend to introduce neo-paganism into Church praxis -- or, to be more precise, give an institutional imprimatur to the existing neo-pagan customs embraced by clerics and people in South America that have nothing to do with Catholicism. They are, in fact, the exact barbarous customs that the importation of Catholicism is meant to eradicate.

Anonymous 2 said...

Marc:

You may be correct that whatever the Bishops say on climate change will have zero impact on anyone. And we wonder why the Church is losing influence in Western culture? It seems to me that all the speculations so far as to why this is the case barely scratch the surface.

You are entitled to your opinion about the “hidden agenda” you assert. You are also entitled to rush to judgment—to pre-judge the Synod even before it occurs. I prefer to wait and see.

David Burkovich said...

I found this statement on Lifesite in an article on the Amazon Synod by the former head of the Vatican Bank. This is what is really causing global warming.....

"That is why, on October 5, I will make an ecological prayer. I will pray that the fire in the Church that is destroying the lung that gives breath to the world, i.e. faith, will be extinguished. And, of course, I will pray that global warming, thanks to the resumption of faith, will be reduced as a consequence. And I am certain that this will happen because the truly dangerous global warming is due to the high and exponentially growing number of so many poor creatures who end up burning in hell, thus raising the temperatures of earth, thanks to the fact that doctrine is no longer taught, but rather something else."