In Charlotte, the Bishop and his chancery are the neo-ICE which needs to be protested:
Thousands upon thousands of Catholics protest the Charlotte “ICE” Chancery about the Orwellian restrictions placed upon good, practicing Catholics, some of them undocumented traditionalists. Well, maybe hundreds? But hyperbole is always organic development:
Catholics gathered outside of Charlotte Diocese Pastoral Centre yesterday to pray in reparation after a ban on altar rails and kneelers went into effect and enforced by ICE in the Diocese.
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Big difference:
ICE Protestors are "protesting" to keep illegal aliens (law breakers) in the US, including rapists, murderers and thieves, in obstruction of legitimate law.
In contrast, these Catholics are protesting the ultra vires actions of a bishop who is violating their legitimate rights under Sacrosanctum Concilium, Sacramentum Caritatis and the very rubrics of the Novus Bogus.
HUGE DIFFERENCE, or are you employing the All K Highest style of "logic?"
Both are protesting… right or wrong
Many in Minneapolis are committing crimes, those in Charlotte are not. Don't get caught up in Kavanaugh "logic" please!
TJM:
And by your and MAGA’s logic, clearly any crimes committed during these protests are committed by infiltrators arranged by the FBI, or by other pro-MAGA groups like the Proud Boys—you know just like the “infiltrators” on January 6.
Mark J.
Glad to know I inhabit TeeJayEmm's brain so profoundly that I show up EVERYEHERE now. Bwaaaa Haaaaa!
Yes, he has a bad case of KDS. -:)
What on earth would lead the bishop to ban the use of altar rails and order the removal of kneelers? The bishop’s pastoral letter does not appear to mention any special problems, such as “politicization” of the receiving posture, that have arisen. Instead, it refers to the symbolism that “the faithful go in procession, witnessing that the Church journeys forward and receives Holy Communion as a pilgrim people on their way.” But how is kneeling to receive communion inconsistent with this notion? Far better to do what Father McDonald did at St. Joseph’s and offer both options and allow each Catholic to express their reverence in the manner they feel the Holy Spirit is moving them to do. I wish all parishes would do this. Personally, I would certainly use a kneeler if one were provided; unfortunately, given my hip issues, I don’t want to attempt kneeling on the floor, i.e., without the push-up assist provided by an altar rail or at least a movable kneeler.
Without knowing more, it just seems mean spirited to me to remove this option and I hope the bishop will reconsider.
Mark J.
P.S. If the option of kneeling or standing is good enough for Episcopalians, it should be good enough for Catholics!
TJM:
Again, you seem to be missing the point. No-one sane objects to the removal of hardened criminal migrants, especially violent ones, whether here legally or illegally. What sane people are objecting to is the insanely cruel and misguided policy of removing migrants, even those here illegally, who don’t fall into that category (i.e., the vast majority) just so that ICE can meet the rabid Stephen Miller’s goal of removing one million undocumented migrants each year (i.e., 3000 a day), the blatant racism involved, the unprofessionalism and lack of training for new ICE recruits, the disregard for due process and the rule of law, and the thuggish tactics being used even against U.S. citizens who are peacefully protesting. I could go on but this laundry list should suffice to make the point.
And what about Trump’s campaign promise to “do something” to help the DACA recipients? I guess Miller doesn’t want that and what Miller says goes.
I cannot wait until the Democrats regain control of the House and can start holding the Administration to account instead of the entire burden being placed on the judiciary, assuming of course Emperor Trump and Grand Vizier Miller don’t concoct some pretext for cancelling the midterms that is.
Mark J.
Mark,
To this point, I'm fairly certain I saw a Communion rail in-person in a Methodistb church before I ever saw one in a Catholic church. As far as I know, Methodists don’t believe even in consubstantiation, let alone transubstantion! I wonder what Bishop Martin would say to that!
Nick
Communion rails in Methodist churches aren't uncommon. Savannah's historic Wesley Monumental UMC has one.
Exactly. (What is uncommon is for me to be in one, compared to being in a Catholic church)
Nick
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