Yes, puppet and clown Masses are more appealing than this horrible thing that happened at the Vatican in the presence of the pope. If this is the fire of creativity that is sorely needed in the Church's missionary activities, I want to become a Mormon!
Pagan fertility ritual in the Vatican gardens
Pope Francis could have imitated our Lord, Jesus, in the Garden of Gethsemane as portrayed by the Passion of the Christ:
Of course by clown Mass, I mean this type of clown Mass! This is in France in 1952, yes, 1952 and yes it is a clown Mass in the ancient rite!
And yes, the altar is facing the clowns!!!!!!
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Everyone knows that ALL the popes attended pagan ceremonies and were blessed by shamans on the grounds of the Vatican!
Besides, this is just preparing those rigid sour pickle-faced
Catholics for the cultural enrichment coming soon to all the masses.
Bee here:
Remember when it used to be a joke to say, "Is the Pope Catholic?"
God bless.
Bee
When is the ‘Black Mass’ taking place that officially enthroned Satan in the Vatican. That would be interesting to see. If that happened Cardinal Burke probably would be upset and just might think about saying something after thinking about what to say for 5 or 10 years.
I honestly think that this was even too much for Pope Francis. He had a speech prepared, but led everyone in the Our Father instead. I don't think he fully understood the severity of the situation until he was there to experience it for himself. At least, I hope this is the case. I pray that this is a wake-up-call for him and that he will think twice before proposing or implementing changes from now on.
Pray for the Church. Pray for the Pope. Pray that the Synod on the Amazon will not introduce any errors or heresies.
Bee here:
Oh, Carol H., please, don't kid yourself.
God bless.
Bee
The following has to be said in regard to the pagan ceremony that involved the Pope:
It is clear that since the Second Vatican Council, the Pope and the Bishops are making more and more of a clear departure from their predecessors.
Everything that had been put into place by the Church in past centuries to defend the Faith, and everything that was done by the missionaries to spread it, even to the point of martyrdom, henceforth is considered to be a fault which the Church must confess and ask pardon for.
Hence the complete about-face of Rome, since the Second Vatican Council, which makes us repeat the words of Our Lord to those who came to arrest Him: “This is your hour and the power of darkness."
The Roman authorities turn their backs on their predecessors and break with the Catholic Church, and they put themselves at the service of the destroyers of Christianity and of the universal Kingdom of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
The present acts of the Pope and the national episcopates illustrates, year by year, this radical change in the conception of the Faith, the Church, the priesthood, the world, and salvation by grace.
The Pope has ruptured with the previous Magisterium of the Churc.
The public sin against the one, true God, against the Incarnate Word, and His Church, makes us shudder with horror.
The Pope encourages the false religions to pray to their false gods—an immeasurable, unprecedented scandal.
We are obliged to take note that this Modernist and liberal religion of modern and conciliar Rome is always distancing itself more and more from us, who profess the Catholic Faith of the eleven Popes who condemned this false religion.
The Pope has broken with his predecessors.
Thus we consider as null everything inspired by this spirit of denial of the past: all the post-conciliar reforms, and all the acts of Rome accomplished in this impiety.
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By the way, all of the above is found here:
http://archives.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/1986_declaration_against_assisi_archbishop_lefebvre-bishop_de_castro_mayer.htm
Archbishop Leferbvre, as well as Bishop de Castro Mayer, lodged the above charges against Pope Saint John in light of the paganism in which said Pope trafficked supposedly at Assisi I.
I believe that the charge that Pope Francis attached himself to pagan rituals will prove as valid as the 1986 A.D. above attack against Pope Saint John Paul II.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT
Cardinal Ratzinger had serious misgivings concerning Assisi 1.
In 2011 A.D., Pope Benedict XVI invited voodoo witch doctor Wande Abimbola to participate at Assisi III.
At the basilica, the witch doctor, as he rattled an object, was permitted to chant a prayer to the strange god Olokun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZrR6H4iwO0
At the 4:46 mark, the witch doctor prays to his strange god.
At the 6:08 mark, the witch doctor shakes hands with Pope Benedict XVI.
The SSPX, for example, denounced Pope Benedict XVI as having committed a grave offense against God...for having committed a grave public scandal.
Conversely, Pope Benedict XVI defended his Assisi III gathering, voodoo witch doctor and all, as a holy and orthodox event.
If Pope Benedict declared it orthodox to have invited to a Catholic basilica a voodoo witch doctor who, in turn, chanted a prayer to the strange god Olokun, then Pope Francis is in the clear.
:-)
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Francis has not broken with his predecessors going back to John XXIII. But that's not exactly an argument pro-Francis so much as anti-Vatican II religion. There's less and less continuity between the Vatican II religion and Catholicism with each passing day -- this spectacle is but the latest evidence.
The Vatican II religion and Catholicism are two distinct things.
Funny thing is the liberals who are admiring the 'reverence' of this 'ceremony' refuse to kneel when receiving our Lord in the Eucharist.
I think what Mark Thomas is saying is that it hasn't been THE Catholic Church in a long time.
Thanks for enlightening us MT.
johnnyc,
Just like my liberal Catholic friends who were rabidly pro vernacular Mass and children's Masses but would swoon over the Synagogue ritual that was primarily in a non-vernacular language and did not coddle children.
Mark Thomas nails it. The actions of Pope Francis are so egregious in comparison to the actions of Saint Pope JPII, that all the criticisms of Archbishop Leferbvre apply in this case.
Amber.
John Nolan said..."MT Cardinal Ratzinger had serious misgivings concerning Assisi 1."
As Pope, said misgivings had evaporated.
On January 1, 2011 A.D., Pope Benedict XVI praised Assisi I. He announced that he planned to convoke Assisi III.
By the way, in 2002 A.D. Cardinal Ratzinger took part in Assisi II.
Anyway, Pope Benedict XVI praised, as well as commemorated, Assisi I.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Speaking of clowns---Nancy Pelosi. She was up in Georgia's liberal metro Atlanta last Friday, hosting a fundraiser for John Lewis (who ironically has one of the safest Democratic seats in the land---85 percent Clinton in 2016---so why does he need a fundraiser?). But I digress. At interview with the local Atlanta paper, she expressed concern about the Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade. As a Catholic, one would hope she would denounce that infamous 1973 ruling---but she hasn't. A clown...I would love to see a you tube of Pelosi going to communion somewhere---anywhere---and being turned away at the altar. But unless she goes to the dioceses of Lincoln and Springfield (Illinois), that is about as likely as snow on the 4th of July in the Peach state!
Bee, I am just trying to be charitable. I hope for the best, but truthfully I expect the worst. I am praying often that the synod not introduce any errors or heresies to the Church. I guess we shall all know soon. FWIW, I tend to agree with everything you say!
God bless!
I saw Pope Francis welcome some indigenous people of the amazon along with others mixed into the group. I saw the Pope plant a tree and watch their ceremony. I didn’t see the Pope actively participating in that ceremony. I know the Pope is displeased with the criticism of those people from the amazon. I know about selective videography and political spin. I suspect both are active here.
Anonymous,
Nancy Pelosi is an evil, sick woman but the gutless Archbishop of San Fran just allows her to toodle along. What is so evil about the modern Democratic Party is they actively fund raise from their drones on the basis that the "right" to kill babies in the womb is being "threatened" by those dastardly Republicans. And we have equally sick bishops and priests who still vote for the Party of Moloch - I hope they enjoy Hell, they've earned it.
Bee here:
Carol H,
I know, I know. I know you were trying to see it in the best possible light, giving him the benefit of the doubt. And I'm sorry if my comment came off as harsh or critical. I didn't mean it to be.
Today is the feast, as you probably know, of Our Lady of the Rosary. The feast commemorates a fantastic miracle of a decisive sea battle where the Catholics were so outnumbered by the Muslims (Ottoman Turks) that everyone expected certain defeat. Yet, they prayed the rosary, and went out under the banner of Our Lady and were victorious.
Cardinals Burke and Scheider asked for praying of the rosary (at least one decade) and fasting once a week until Oct. 26 to defeat the heresies that are being presented for adoption at this synod. I have taken up the suggestion, and I hope you will too.
At the First Saturday devotion last Saturday our priest said Our Lady told Lucia at one of her apparitions, there is NOTHING that cannot be remedied by praying the rosary. I believe her.
God bless.
Bee
I wonder if it was the intercession of Our Lady that resulted in the fantastic miracle of a decisive sea battle which saw the defeat of the Catholic Spanish Armada against the Anglican English forces...
Bee here:
You know, "Ted from Tilbury," God can see you...and hear you. Are you ready to defend such cynicism at his judgement seat? Because you're gonna have to, eventually.
God bless.
Bee
Lepanto was a crushing victory, though not as stategically decisive as some might think. It did check Ottoman naval expansion into the western Mediterranean, and had a considerable moral effect. The Christian fleet was not greatly outnumbered; in fact it out-gunned the Turkish fleet by more than two to one, and the quality of its soldiers was far higher.
The victory can be explained using conventional analysis, without recourse to the supernatural. That said, it is entirely right and proper for the Church to celebrate a victory over the enemies of Christendom. The feast is also known as Our Lady of Victories.
The Protestants attributed the defeat of the Spanish Armada to Divine intervention. In reality the Spanish plan was more or less unworkable and the English had better ships, better guns and better tactics. The weather did the rest.
Had the Armada succeeded we would no doubt be enjoying cheap booze and afternoon siestas, but I doubt that global warming will ever provide us with Spanish sunshine.
It was far more important in its implications that the Holy League fleet prevail over the Ottoman fleet than that the Spanish Armada defeat the English.
One can ponder how much, if any, Divine Intervention brought about the result against the Turks. Perhaps it can be seen in the scale of the victory.
While the Spanish may have felt God was on their side, given the circumstances they found themselves in, it would have required a miracle to prevail against the English fleet. I haven't read anything where Our Lady's help was explicitly invoked in the same way as at Lepanto, but no miraculous assistance against the English was forthcoming from God, and he has his reasons which are beyond us to fathom, although we can certainly speculate.
Bee - It's not cynicism, I assure you.
What it is is anti-credulity and anti-God-Love-Us-Best.
I've yet to encounter a believing person who says, "We prayed but lost the battle. There is the proof that God was against us."
Yet, so many are willing to say, "We prayed and won the battle. There is the proof that God is on our side."
When I hear that, I may alter my views.
Anonymous said..."I've yet to encounter a believing person who says, 'We prayed but lost the battle. There is the proof that God was against us.'"
There are numerous examples of the above found in the Old Testament.
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