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Tuesday, October 15, 2019

TWO DITTIES FROM PRAY TELL THAT TELLS US, ROME WE HAVE A PROBLEM!



This is reason 9,000,000,000,000,000,999 as to why the common chalice should be banned. All I can say is GAAAROSSSSS!



The Chalice That Did Not Spill and Those That Do


When I was in a communion procession recently, I approached an extraordinary minister who held the vessel with consecrated wine.  Just as I stopped in front of him, he turned his head to the side and sneezed.  He had raised his right arm so to sneeze into the crook of his elbow and he held the chalice with his left hand.  His body shook with the force of his sneeze and I could see the contents of the chalice sloshing around.  Concerned that it might spill—and concerned that if I simply took the chalice from his hand that action by itself might precipitate a spill—I reached out with my hands around his left hand in order to stabilize the chalice.  The sneeze passed.  The minister’s body and the contents of the chalice settled.  I released my grasp of the chalice.  He administered the chalice to me.  “The Blood of Christ.”  “Amen.”  He smiled with gratitude; I nodded my head and entered the procession to return to my seat. Read the rest there.

And then there is this extremely long apologia that there were not two pagan ceremonies, one in the Vatican garden attended by the pope, the other in St. Peter's, where the first pope is entombed. Why the pope remains mute on these two supposed sacrileges is beyond comprehension:




Paganism at the Vatican?


Pray Tell is happy to make the Where Peter Is more widely known, and to publish this piece with their and the author’s permission. Gabriel addresses the controversy about allegedly pagan elements and unchristian religious syncretism in prayer services at the Vatican in conjunction with the Amazon Synod now taking place in Rome.
Since the publication of my article about the alleged pagan ritual hosted at the Vatican Gardens, new facts have emerged. This was bound to happen, as I myself admitted and wished for in the conclusion of the article. After all, there was still much that was not known about the ceremony at the time. This is why I was very cautious in drawing any conclusions from it. The only claims that I presented as solid were: 1) the alleged “phallic man” was not phallic at all and 2) one of the images of a seemingly naked pregnant woman represented Our Lady of the Amazon. The latter was mainly grounded on the words of the native woman who presented the image to the Pope: she said it was “Our Lady of the Amazon.” 
Read the rest there.

8 comments:

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

In a similar vein I thought you and Father Fox would enjoy reading this piece on PF's latest motu proprio:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pope-francis-put-a-new-feast-on-the-calendar-why-catholics-should-be-dismayed

Anonymous said...

Oh My! Oh My! Oh My!

The TIMING of the release of Aperuit Illis was "odd," "on the feast of St. Jerome," "why right now," "astonishingly cynical," "a clever propaganda move," and "consummately Machiavellian."

Dr. Kwasniewski needs a vacation.

TJM said...

Anonymous K,

Dr. Kwasniewski is head and shoulders obove you intellectually, hence, your inane comments rather than responding to the substance.

rcg said...

Maybe the next Pope will take the name Gregory.

Mark Thomas said...

Anonymous said..."Dr. Kwasniewski needs a vacation."

Dr. Kwasniewski traffics in bizarre, right-wing nonsense.

His unending attacks against the Vicar of Christ, Pope Francis tells you all that you need to know about Dr. Kwasniewski.

Dr. Kwasniewski would do well to heed Cardinal Sarah's declaration about the link between Satan and the attacks against Pope Francis.

May the light of Jesus Christ lead Dr. Kwasniewski away from Satan.

May Dr. Kwasniewski subject himself to, rather than trash and bash Pope Francis.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

TJM said...

Mark Thomas,

And you traffic in papalotry, a heresy.

Dr. Kwasniewski is a highly respected liturgical scholar and knows far more about Catholic liturgy than does PF.

You are also a left-winger, which means by definition, you cannot be truly Catholic because left-wingers worship and adore abortion on demand and gay marriage.

Have a nice day!

Dan said...

Speaking of those "right winger" concerns. I happened to come across this in a news article:

"Fr. Giacomo Costa, a communications official for the Amazon synod, said Wednesday a wooden figure of a nude pregnant woman, which has been present at events related to the synod, is not the Virgin Mary, but is instead a female figure representing life.

“It is not the Virgin Mary, who said it is the Virgin Mary?” Costa said Oct. 16 at a press conference for the Amazon synod, a meeting taking place in the Vatican Oct. 6-27 on the ministry of the Church in the region."

And jeepers, if one looks up articles about traveling to the region they talk about the ceremony we just saw at the Vatican, as though it was a non-Christian PAGAN ceremony. I found several sites with travel adventure stories from the early part of 2000's.

"Right wingers" might get the wrong impression even....

DJR said...

Mark Thomas said..."He who hears our bishops who are in communion with Pope Francis hears Jesus Christ."

Cardinal Ratzinger (a bishop in communion with the pope), upon being asked whether the Holy Spirit directly chooses popes:

“I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the Pope. . . . I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit’s role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined. . . . There are too many contrary instances of popes the Holy Spirit obviously would not have picked!”


Mark Thomas (who is supposed to be hearing Jesus Christ in the words of Cardinal Ratzinger): "I don't agree with Cardinal Ratzinger, no."

Perhaps Dr. K will heed advice from some when those very ones take their own advice.