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Saturday, April 6, 2019

A MODEST, HUMBLE, NON TRIUMPHAL PROPOSAL TO ARCHBISHOP GREGORY FOR HIS INSTALLATION MASS IN WASHINGTON, DC



Many progressives decry the triumphalism of the pre-Vatican II Church. I would suggest, though, that triumphalism pervades the liturgies of ordinations of priests and bishops in the post Vatican II era and needlessly so.

Think of the music and instrumentation, brass, drums, descants and the like. Applause and cheers even with hoots and cat calls—think of recessional or introductions of brides and grooms at weddings.

So Archbishop Gregory, I recommend a sober, simple approach to your installation Mass given the crisis the post Vatican II mentality has fomented in the Church:

1. No brass, drums or triumphant music or hymns

2. Solemnly chant all the propers of the Mass in Latin

3. Don’t divide the congregation or emphasize cultural diversity, i.e. division, by pandering to multi lingual or cultural interest groups thus making the worship of the Church horizontal rather than vertical

4. How about eliminating mass concelebration? Have all priests and bishops/cardinals in choir dress and taking the same postures during Mass as the laity to include the manner of receiving Holy Communion. Ask all priests and bishops to offer a private or parish Mass for your intentions and the healing of the Church universal.

5. Warn the congregation, especially the bishops and priests not to offer applause at any point within the cathedral!!!!!

6. And if you really want a humble installation, offer the Liturgy of the Eucharist ad orientem!!!!


26 comments:

Dan said...

I'm thinking there is a greater likelihood of seeing a rainbow flag or two.

Anonymous said...

Seriously Father. The installation Mass according to my crystal ball will feature a rockin’ Gospel choir and the Gay Men’s Choir. Nancy Pelosi and all the other liberal “Catholics” front row and center. And the homily will be about praising Francis and welcoming everyone EXCEPT those Catholics who actually believe in the Faith.

Mark Thomas said...

May God bless Archbishop Gregory.

I believe that Archbishop Gregory is a holy man... a solid, God-loving son of Holy Mother Church.

May our Majestic God continue to lead Archbishop Gregory to defend and proclaim the True Religion.

May the Blessed Virgin Mary, Saint Joseph, and all the Saints pray for Archbishop Gregory.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Anonymous said...

Obviously that was published for us, your readers. There's not a snowball's chance in hell that Archbishop Gregory would do any of these things and it's highly doubtful he knows about this blog or even cares what's on it.

TJM said...

MT,

Your posts should be preceded by a warning: MAJOR BARF ALERT

If you checked his record, you would know your post is nonsense. A guy who violates the rubrics by using a glass chalice is just starters. His doctrinal positions are mush

Victor said...

MT:
You are right in praying to the majestic God for Absp Gregory. The problem is that everyone knows of his fairly liberal views. The current "lefty" pontificate has an agenda, namely to use the Church to change the world including USA into into a lefty-progressive society, and his selection of Gregory is part of this plan. This papacy is highly sympathetic to Communism (think of China) as was the Council. Ever wonder why Absp Chaput is not being promoted anywhere? Even his indigenous roots will not help him with this papacy because of his orthodox views on Catholicism and politics. This pope has nothing but contempt for the rich nations, particularly USA, as is evidenced even this morning by his remarks about how USA and (rich) Europe is responsible for the children that are killed in wars around the world, as if Russia and China are not:

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-blames-europe-us-weapons-150322000.html

TJM said...

Victor,

What really shows the depths of PF's ignorance, is that he rails against capitalism, but is demanding that the capitalist United States take in illegal aliens. Why isn't PF demanding they go instead to Venezuela, Cuba, or God forbid, the Vatican. He's an empty suit when it comes to economics as are the vast majority of the hierarchy. If they relied on socialist countries to support the Church, there would be a massive going out of business sale.

Mark Thomas said...

Victor said..."MT: You are right in praying to the majestic God for Absp Gregory. The problem is that everyone knows of his fairly liberal views. The current "lefty" pontificate has an agenda, namely to use the Church to change the world including USA into into a lefty-progressive society, and his selection of Gregory is part of this plan."

Victor, in what way(s) is the current Pontificate "lefty"?

Our "lefty" Pope has...

-- Condemned abortion repeatedly.

-- Denounced the homosexual lobby.

-- Insisted that marriage exists between a man and woman.

-- Supported Catholics who work to pass laws to outlaw homosexual "marriage," as well as the adoption of children by homosexuals.

-- Promoted repeatedly devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, as well as all the Saints.

-- Promoted Confession repeatedly.

-- Promoted indulgences.

-- Warned repeatedly that Satan is real.

-- Exhorted Catholics to restore Sunday as a day of rest centered upon God.

-- Defended and promoted Catholic Social Teaching to the point that even the folks at Rorate Caeli, who hate Pope Francis, declared that Pope Francis is "traditional."

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/06/truth-be-told-pope-francis-more-often.html

"Very few indeed have been making the case, a case that is true, that the positions stated by Pope Francis on economic and social matters are much closer to the Traditional Catholic position on the economy and the State than not.

"Indeed, it can be said unhesitatingly that this is one area in which the Pope will find mostly allies in Traditional Catholics."

Our "lefty" Pope...

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Dan said...

Looks like your Rorate clipping is from a few years ago Mark - how's that support holding up for Francis?

Dan said...

Let me check:

"To the man in white living at Casa Santa Marta, we’d like to ask: Who actually are you, Signor Bergoglio? Where do you come from and what dark designs hide in your bad pastor’s heart - you who disdain the sheep and are doing everything, so that, distressed, confused and desperate they scatter in the four directions?"
04/06/2019

"These people are not kissing Jorge Mario Bergoglio, it is not all about him, and his person, as he seems to think.

They want to kiss Peter, the Vicar of Christ. It's monstrous to deny them that."
03/26/19

Let's see, I see several articles wondering what the heck we're supposed to do with a heretic pope......

Hmmmm... can't seem to find supportive articles Mark.

Dan said...

Perhaps other readers may wish to clip more recent articles for Mark Thomas....

TJM said...

MT,

LOL - yet you continue to refuse to tell us what PF did to punish the priests at the Vatican involved in the cocaine gay fueled sex orgy. If you cannot answer that honestly maybe it is time to fold your tent and go to post at Father Z’s blog

TJM said...

MT,

I will leave you with one last thought before you go trolling over at Father Z's:

Words without action are meaningless. Think about it.

Mark Thomas said...

Dan said..."Looks like your Rorate clipping is from a few years ago Mark - how's that support holding up for Francis?"

Pope Francis has continued to defend and promote the same Social Teaching that he did when Rorate Caeli acknowledged that His Holiness' teaching in question was traditional.

If the folks at Rorate Caeli were right then about Pope Francis' Social Teaching, then Pope Francis's Social Teaching remains traditional.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

TJM said...

MT,

Still can’t answer a simple question about your golden calf. Sad

Anonymous said...

Explain the #4 point on concelebration---was that a Vatican 2 "novelty"? NO chance on the gospel choir point---they had it at the Archdiocesan MLK celebration this year.

Dan said...

MT, IF (a very big IF) Francis' social teaching is the same that was lauded some years back, it does not mean that every other aspect of his "magisterium" is without issues and should not cause concern.

Do you agree?

John Nolan said...

Concelebration as practised nowadays is indeed a Vat II novelty. There was concelebration in the traditional ordination rite, but the newly ordained priests did not stand at the altar; they recited the Canon kneeling. They did not extend their arms, nor did they share the prayers of the Canon amongst themselves.

The present concelebration rite dates from the 1960s.

Anonymous said...

John, thanks for the explanation on concelebration. Does the argument against it have something to do with effect that since Christ alone celebrated the Eucharist, there cannot be "multiple Christs" offering the sacrifice at one altar? What was the purpose of the 1960s change?

TJM said...

Given the decline in the numbers of priests, concelebration is only practical at an ordination or a priests’s funeral

Paul McCarthy said...

The Novus Order church is an abomination and every time I attend mass even if valid I fill empty. When I attend the mass of the ages I leave with my heart filled with love for our Lord and I honestly fill like a catholic not just another Pewsitter.

Lord I beg you to end this madness soon. In ages past we had brave clerics and laity that would denounce the heretics and the sodomites and all we get in this age of man is silence but from a few.

Dan said...

"In ages past we had brave clerics and laity that would denounce the heretics and the sodomites and all we get in this age of man is silence but from a few."

That's because only heretics and sodomites are given positions of power in the Church.

I'm currently watching the destruction of an actual Catholic priest who has tried to give a Catholic message, being destroyed in my parish.. seems he is leaving. They keep winning.

TJM said...

Dan,

Did any of the laity go to his defense? Go after his detractors? Make their case to the bishop??

Dan said...

Yes. Apparently the few that complained about him were moneyed liberal Democratic type "Catholics" - naturally doctrine follows the $$$.

TJM said...

Dan,

So the bishop caved to the fake catholics. Tells me the bishop should be degraded to the lay state so he could hand out campaign literature for the Abortion Party. How I would love to confront that little toady. May God have mercy on his soul.

Dan said...

Caved to the fake Catholics?? Somethimes I think the bishop IS a fake Catholic.