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Monday, April 29, 2019

IS THERE ANY SIGNIFICANCE IN THIS AND SHOULD THE INSTALLATION BE MOVED BACK TO THE SMALLER CATHEDRAL RATHER THAN THE BASILICA SHRINE??????

What do you think the significance of this is and will it be repeated in Washington? Does it show that the laity are fed up, ambivalent and now disengaged from anything the hierarchy says or does and that they don’t want to celebrate any bishops’ departure or installation? 



Southern Orders’ correspondent in Atlanta reveals this in a recent interview:


On Divine Mercy Sunday, what if they had a Mass...and almost no one came? That was the situation yesterday, not at a parish, but at the Marist School in Atlanta, where the farewell Mass for Archbishop Gregory was held. One of the ushers said that some 2,000 hosts were prepared for Communion, and there were plans for overflow parking and an overflow room (closed circuit TV) if needed. How many showed up? At most 200 (175 probably more likely) showed up---and that is including clergy! Both sides of the gym converted to church were virtually empty and even the middle portion in front of the altar, with 2 sections, maybe 1 was two-thirds full. I was shocked...but I guess 2 in the afternoon is not the time usually associated with Mass. Maybe lack of a reception afterward kept people away,, or the lack of Latin? Well, at least incense was used during the Mass...
April 29, 2019 at 10:54 AM
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Blogger Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...
WOW! There's a powerful message being sent to this Archbishops, all bishops and the pope! 
April 29, 2019 at 11:38 AM
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Blogger Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...
Was there any local news coverage and commentary?
April 29, 2019 at 11:38 AM
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Father M, your "unofficial" correspondent from 30327 who was at Marist about this time yesterday did not see any of the local TV stations present. There was a reporter from the diocesan paper, and may have been one from the AJC (Atlanta paper), but not sure on the latter---looked like somewhat at the back of the center with card around his neck. When his predecessor, John Donahgue, retired in January of 2005, farewell Mass was held at the cathedral on a weeknight and it was packed (though the cathedral up here is not that hard to fill---at best seats around 750). It looked like the clergy present were mostly Marists (non-diocesan). Perhaps there were some Divine Mercy liturgies going on at some parishes, and the Mass was on somewhat short notice since the transfer to DC was announced less than a month ago. Still, you would have expected a larger crowd than that! Marist is not that hard to find, only a mile inside our Beltway, I-285, and in the heart of the Catholic concentration in Atlanta (the northside of Atlanta, above I-20, has far more Catholics than the southern side of the Archdioese, below I-20 and down to edge of Columbua, Macon and Augusta).

10 comments:

Dan said...

The significance is that the faithful are indeed listening to this gift of God given us in the holy and humble Francis. The faithful are staying home rather than contributing to global warming by using the fossil fuels that power their automobiles. Also, the tiny turnout will contribute to the humbling of blessed Gregory before his big move.

Yay for the God of surprises!

Unknown said...

"Divine Mercy liturgies"??? You can't make this stuff up!

TJM said...

Is that a picture of Anonymous K?

Apocaleptic said...

Seems kind of appropriate: Yet ANOTHER Mass held in a lay building, anticipation of a huge fan base that does not and never did exist and people staying away in droves.

ARE YOU LISTENING ARCHBISHOP GREGORY?

(I doubt it)

Anonymous said...

"You can't make this stuff up!"

Ok, Unknown, Mr. 30327 spoke "too colloquially" about Divine Mercy Sunday. I should have said prayers and exposition of the Blessed Sacrament. Mea culpa.

As for why the Farewell Mass was not held at the Cathedral of Christ the King, well, they have a full set of liturgies on Sundays. Mass does not end in the morning, as it may in some parishes. They have a 130 Mass on Sundays, 400 and I think one or two others later (so "sleeping late" is no excuse for missing Mass there). And the appointment to DC was just announced less than 4 weeks ago----not like there was months's notice about it. But perhaps holding it at Marist was a subtle signal that Gregory wants one of his auxiliaries, Joel Koezen (former principal at Marist, to be his successor? Stay tuned!

Anonymous said...

I, for one, couldn't care less about Rev. Wilton Gregory. He’s one of the cabal from Chicago.
Lately over the past 6-8 months, I find myself caring less and less about what the magisterial Church thinks/says about anything. Still support my local church and that’s it for me right now. Grateful for this blog, though. It helps me to not feel so isolated, and prompts my anger to dissipate into prayer.

Anonymous said...

Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.

Samwise Gamgee: It’s a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don’t keep your feet, there’s no knowing where you might be swept off to.

Henry Miller said...

I guess there is something to celebrate here--albeit with trepidation. What to celebrate: Wilton Gregory leaves Atlanta. Why the trepidation: Who knows what kind of bishop will replace him and who knows what further damage he will do to the Archdiocese of Washington D.C..

Anonymous said...

Your 30327 correspondent notes in his final post for day on this---the low attendance---that in all fairness, Father M pointed out some blogs ago about the low attendance at the Chrism Mass for the Diocese of Savannah. It may be that Catholics these days are more territorial/congregational---more attached to our parish than to a diocese. Most of us hardly ever see a bishop (typically one visits the parish for confirmations, and often those are on weeknights, when most of the parish is unlikely to be present), and with Atlanta being an Archdiocese of 1.2 million or so (Savannah is maybe---100,000?,realtively few will ever meet a bishop. But as long as things are fine at the parish, then things are OK. Of course that is a flawed view---no parish can function without priests, and there cannot be priests without bishops. As for who will replace him--or when for that matter?---well, Henry, that is anyone's guess! One thing for sure, it will not be a public process!

ByzRus said...

I too have little interest in these jamboree masses and the "no one came to my party" component. I do feel for the people in both Atlanta and Washington as the more things change, the more they stay the same.