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Wednesday, April 10, 2019

IS THERE A SNOWBALL'S CHANCE THAT THE NORMAL ORDINARY FORM MASS WILL ONE DAY HAVE AN APPENDIX THAT ALLOWS FOR WHAT THE DIVINE WORSHIP, THE MISSAL OF THE ORDINARIATE HAS? WHY SHOULD THESE PROGIGAL CHILDREN GET ALL THE GOOD STUFF AND WE WHO HAVE NEVER DISOBEYED BE TREATED LIKE STEP CHILDREN?


I think and I pray that someone will petition the Congregations for Divine Worship and the Doctrine of the Faith to get an appendix for the Normal Ordinary Form of the Mass that allows for us good, obedient children of Holy Mother Church to get the good stuff of the Ordinariate's Missal:

1. Prayers at the Foot of the altar with the reordering of the Introductory Rite
2. The option of the traditional offertory prayers
3. The rubrics for the Eucharistic Prayers
4. The three-fold Lord I am not worthy
5. The Last Gospel
6. The Season of Septuagesima

And can we also have the Ordinary Form Missal look like the Ordinariate's Missal which is in fact our longest tradition:






5 comments:

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

One of the main premises behind liturgical "reform" was to make the Liturgy more simple, eliminating unnecessary repetitions, etc. What a joke that turned out to be. The Novus Ordo is hydra headed monster, with options galore, such that Mass varies a great deal from place to place. What is simple about that? By comparison, the EF looks like simplicity itself. Time to start over. Maybe the Ordinariate Ordo is the place to start.

ByzRus said...

As the Roman Church is evidently only beginning to understand the Council and its "fruits", no. That aside, why not start simply and head toward ad orientem. Undo the most destructive change and, perhaps, some of what's suggested in the posting will follow more naturally.

Adam Michael said...

I think you might just get what you are wanting here, Father (and then some). If current trends continue, in the future the Latin Rite will experience further decentralization and somewhat significant reforms. With a weakened CDW and in order to appease conservatives when married clergy and deaconesses arrive, conservative clergy may be allowed to include various traditional elements into the Ordinary Form. However, this return of certain traditional rubrics and prayers will have to coexist with lay-run pastoral units, married clergy, deaconesses, and a greatly weakened moral theology. IMO.

John Nolan said...

Fr McDonald

I do not share your enthusiasm for the Ordinariate missal. Consider, for example, the Collect for Lent I, which you show. It isn't the Collect in the traditional Roman Rite, nor is it that in the Novus Ordo. It's Cranmer's version in the BCP. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's hardly traditional. (Unless it's a translation of the Sarum Collect, in which case I stand corrected.)

The PATFOTA (optional) are those of the Tridentine Rite, not of Sarum. Yet they use the Coverdale version of Ps 42 where the verses and responses are not as in the Tridentine Rite. What traditional Catholic is going to say 'Give sentence with me, O God' for 'Judica me Deus'? Not one. In any case, in a sung Mass the PATFOTA are overlaid by the singing of the Introit which has its verse and the Gloria Patri, followed by the repeat of the antiphon. It's in the Graduale and the GIRM prefers it over the other options.

The restoration of pre-Lent is good, but instead of the epistle and gospel in the Roman and Sarum rite the Ordinariate has signed up for the wretched 1970 Lectionary.

Worst of all, the Ordinariate missal is in English, and faux-Elizabethan English at that. The Ordinariate priests I know are conversant with the Tridentine Mass and when push comes to shove actually prefer it. In Latin.

What's to stop you reciting Ps 42 on your way from the sacristy? What's to stop you using the old Offertory prayers? Even the wretched new ones are normatively said quietly. What's to stop you saying the Placeat before the blessing? What's to stop you using the Roman Canon exclusively? Nothing.

Yet you give the impression that even a Latin Gloria or Credo has to be mandated from Rome. It doesn't, it never has been, and so it won't. Why give explicit permission for what has always been permissible?

Younger priests know they're in for a long haul but at last they have the courage of their convictions. And this also applies to younger bishops.





Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

John, my suggestion is to allow for the traditional options already allowed in the ordinariate’s Missal to the current English OF Mass not adopt the Ordinariate Missal. By the way this could be adapted to the Ordinary Form normative Latin Missal too which would be an advancement.