EVEN THE BIG BANG THEORY KNOWS THAT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT ABOUT THE COMMON CHALICE AND ITS EPIDEMIC PRODUCING CHARACTERISTICS
24 comments:
Anonymous
said...
True, but braindead liberal priests do not want to give this up - ideology uber alles! These same priests think it's terrible for 50 people or less to be in Church 1 hour a week because of the China flu but have no problem with thousands gathered for looting and burning aka "protests"
Yes, let us now reference in support of unscientific assertions fictional characters who spoke fictional lines intended for entertainment.
Yes, let us seek the advice of the Three Witches of the Scottish Tragedy for support for the magic potions we brew in our kitchens: "Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and cauldron bubble."
Maybe we can cite Dorothy Gale on how to find our way home when we have strayed afar: "There's no place like home!"
Or maybe we could rely on Sam Malone for advice on chastity: "Ohhh, sweetheart.. When the lights go out, everybody is the same age and NOBODY is lonely."
So what you are saying is, and more so if you are a priest, that you want to share the common chalice during an epidemic and during this pandemic for you have no fear whatsoever. I didn't know you agreed with President Donald Trump on all of this but disagree with poor Sheldon. Wow! And Dorthy Gale, who knew you would disagree with her but accept that no one gets germs form the backwash in a common chalice which poor Sheldon made so clear in his clever way.
"So what you are saying is, and more so if you are a priest, that you want to share the common chalice during an epidemic and during this pandemic for you have no fear whatsoever."
Nope. That's what YOU said, you and Msgr. Charlie Pope, and we all know how karma came back to bite his posterior.
"...but accept that no one gets germs form the backwash in a common chalice..."
Nope. Never said such a thing.
You're bearing false witness again, which is sinful, again.
Glad you set things right and agree with poor Sheldon and his science. That relieves me that you now believe you can get a virus, even a deadly one, like COVID-19, from the common chalice. All the more reason not to allow anyone to become sick with any kind of virus, deadly or not, from the common chalice that multiple people place their mouth on and multiple people's backwash. We don't need more lawsuits from the Church's negligence is all matters that could harm someone. Glad you agree with me.
Well Bee, at least Anonymous blamed karma and not God. Let us be thankful that Anonymous did not inflict in our online presence the sinful notion of leveling against the Divinity an unfounded accusation.
In fact, I have ALWAYS maintained that it was POSSIBLE to get a virus from the common cup.
That you suggest I am only NOW acknowledging this is, again, bearing false witness, and, again, sinful.
It is also POSSIBLE for you to be struck dead by a meteorite as you drive, to be bitten by a black widow spider as you sleep, or to have a steel beam fall from the ceiling of your church and smush you just after you consecrate the bread but before you consecrate the wine.
Although it seems beyond your ken, what we are dealing with here is probabilities, not possibilities. Studies have shown that is is HIGHLY unlikely that you will meet your demise at the hands of a descending bit of space debris, that you will be assassinated by a venemous arachnid, or that your end will come from an engineering error.
Equally, studies have shown that contracting a deadly disease from the common cup is as unlikely as the tragedies mentioned above.
frmjk@1:48, it is not a mortal or venial sin for someone to understand what someone else implies. Study your Baltimore Cat. But once again, I see you are promoting the common chalice despite the fact it can cause viruses in a pandemic, epidemic or normal times. Make up your mind. Either you provide the chalice to the laity and then purify it yourself after multitudes have had their mouth and backwash on/in it or you don't. What is is good Father? You can't have it both ways.
"So now the prophet Hosea is heretical?" No. But then you did not cite the prophet Hosea. You referred to Karma.
"Karma: the force generated by a person's actions held in Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence. broadly : such a force considered as affecting the events of one's life." Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Karma attributes occurrences in our lives to our intent and deeds which lead to either good or evil results. It is a impersonal "force," almost like a law of nature. This is totally contrary to the meaning of "You reap what you sow." We Catholics believe in God's providence, and understand that though there are natural consequences to some of our behavior, (hence, at times you do reap what you sow) God's permissive will is what controls what happens to us, not Karma. So in a Catholic world view, we note evil doing people can go on for quite some time without evil consequences if God so wills it, and good doing people can suffer what seems to us to be unjustified suffering if God so wills it.
To attribute Msg. Pope's contracting the COVID virus to his writing an article about not letting fear of it run our lives (but advising exercising normal precautions and prudence, and by his own testimony, he himself practiced all the recommended precautions) is honestly no more than superstition. I cannot understand how his contracting the virus was the result of "You reap what you sow."
I hope you don't reap what YOU sow. I honestly do.
"Equally, studies have shown that contracting a deadly disease from the common cup is as unlikely as the tragedies mentioned above."
For your consideration:
""If you torture your data long enough, they will tell you whatever you want to hear" has become a popular observation in our office.
In plain English, this means that study data, if manipulated in enough different ways, can be made to prove whatever the investigator wants to prove.
Unfortunately, this is generally true. Because every investigator wants to present results in the most exciting way, we all look for the most dramatic, positive findings in our data.
When this process goes beyond reasonable interpretation of the facts, it becomes data torturing.
The unfortunate result of torturing data is the dissemination of incorrect information to the research community and to patients.
James L. Mills, M.D., M.S. h t t p ---> content nejm org cgi content full 329 16 1196"
Bee - You fall into the John Nolan school of failing to understand that words have more than one meaning.
Karma ALSO means: "destiny or fate, following as effect from cause." (source: Oxford Languages) It CAN be a Hindu/Buddhist doctrine, but it CAN be something else as well.
You see, a person who is generally, shall we say, dismissive of the need for being extremely careful during the pandemic - he noted in his video that in his rectory people come and go all the time - should not be surprised when that casual attitude leads to the effect (contacting the virus) from the cause (not being especially careful.)
Fr. McDonald - It is sinful to bear false witness as you have done regarding what I have clearly stated numerous times about the possibility of contracting disease from the common cup. You can run away from your guilt as much as you want - it doesn't change the facts.
Ah, you once again avoid the point someone else makes, and redirect, so as to not address what you really have said and done, which others understand correctly you have said and done.
Too bad for you. You fool no one. Your devices are those of a dishonest man.
Bee is far more spiritual and erudite than you. Maybe you should work on conversions and vocations and tending to your flock than wasting our time with your crap. You are Mark Thomas on steroids. I hope Father McDonald keeps outing you.
24 comments:
True, but braindead liberal priests do not want to give this up - ideology uber alles! These same priests think it's terrible for 50 people or less to be in Church 1 hour a week because of the China flu but have no problem with thousands gathered for looting and burning aka "protests"
This is hysterical....also how I feel after Communion when I have to consume the remains of the common chalice!
Yes, let us now reference in support of unscientific assertions fictional characters who spoke fictional lines intended for entertainment.
Yes, let us seek the advice of the Three Witches of the Scottish Tragedy for support for the magic potions we brew in our kitchens: "Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and cauldron bubble."
Maybe we can cite Dorothy Gale on how to find our way home when we have strayed afar: "There's no place like home!"
Or maybe we could rely on Sam Malone for advice on chastity: "Ohhh, sweetheart.. When the lights go out, everybody is the same age and NOBODY is lonely."
Yeah, that's the ticket.....
So what you are saying is, and more so if you are a priest, that you want to share the common chalice during an epidemic and during this pandemic for you have no fear whatsoever. I didn't know you agreed with President Donald Trump on all of this but disagree with poor Sheldon. Wow! And Dorthy Gale, who knew you would disagree with her but accept that no one gets germs form the backwash in a common chalice which poor Sheldon made so clear in his clever way.
"So what you are saying is, and more so if you are a priest, that you want to share the common chalice during an epidemic and during this pandemic for you have no fear whatsoever."
Nope. That's what YOU said, you and Msgr. Charlie Pope, and we all know how karma came back to bite his posterior.
"...but accept that no one gets germs form the backwash in a common chalice..."
Nope. Never said such a thing.
You're bearing false witness again, which is sinful, again.
Glad you set things right and agree with poor Sheldon and his science. That relieves me that you now believe you can get a virus, even a deadly one, like COVID-19, from the common chalice. All the more reason not to allow anyone to become sick with any kind of virus, deadly or not, from the common chalice that multiple people place their mouth on and multiple people's backwash. We don't need more lawsuits from the Church's negligence is all matters that could harm someone. Glad you agree with me.
Bee here:
Anonymous at August 6, 2020 at 10:46 am said, "...and we all know how karma came back to bite his posterior."
Karma? Really? KARMA????
For a Catholic (which I presume you are) that's a pretty heretical belief, not to mention completely unscientific....
God bless.
Bee
Yeah, KARMA.
Put another way, "What goes around comes around."
And to put it biblically, "They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind." (Hosea 8:7)
So now the prophet Hosea is heretical?
Well Bee, at least Anonymous blamed karma and not God. Let us be thankful that Anonymous did not inflict in our online presence the sinful notion of leveling against the Divinity an unfounded accusation.
In fact, I have ALWAYS maintained that it was POSSIBLE to get a virus from the common cup.
That you suggest I am only NOW acknowledging this is, again, bearing false witness, and, again, sinful.
It is also POSSIBLE for you to be struck dead by a meteorite as you drive, to be bitten by a black widow spider as you sleep, or to have a steel beam fall from the ceiling of your church and smush you just after you consecrate the bread but before you consecrate the wine.
Although it seems beyond your ken, what we are dealing with here is probabilities, not possibilities. Studies have shown that is is HIGHLY unlikely that you will meet your demise at the hands of a descending bit of space debris, that you will be assassinated by a venemous arachnid, or that your end will come from an engineering error.
Equally, studies have shown that contracting a deadly disease from the common cup is as unlikely as the tragedies mentioned above.
frmjk@1:48, it is not a mortal or venial sin for someone to understand what someone else implies. Study your Baltimore Cat. But once again, I see you are promoting the common chalice despite the fact it can cause viruses in a pandemic, epidemic or normal times. Make up your mind. Either you provide the chalice to the laity and then purify it yourself after multitudes have had their mouth and backwash on/in it or you don't. What is is good Father? You can't have it both ways.
Bee here:
Anonymous at August 6, 2020 at 1:04 PM:
"So now the prophet Hosea is heretical?" No. But then you did not cite the prophet Hosea. You referred to Karma.
"Karma: the force generated by a person's actions held in Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence. broadly : such a force considered as affecting the events of one's life." Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Karma attributes occurrences in our lives to our intent and deeds which lead to either good or evil results. It is a impersonal "force," almost like a law of nature. This is totally contrary to the meaning of "You reap what you sow." We Catholics believe in God's providence, and understand that though there are natural consequences to some of our behavior, (hence, at times you do reap what you sow) God's permissive will is what controls what happens to us, not Karma. So in a Catholic world view, we note evil doing people can go on for quite some time without evil consequences if God so wills it, and good doing people can suffer what seems to us to be unjustified suffering if God so wills it.
To attribute Msg. Pope's contracting the COVID virus to his writing an article about not letting fear of it run our lives (but advising exercising normal precautions and prudence, and by his own testimony, he himself practiced all the recommended precautions) is honestly no more than superstition. I cannot understand how his contracting the virus was the result of "You reap what you sow."
I hope you don't reap what YOU sow. I honestly do.
God bless.
Bee
Bee here:
Anonymous at August 6, 2020 at 1:48 PM said"
"Equally, studies have shown that contracting a deadly disease from the common cup is as unlikely as the tragedies mentioned above."
For your consideration:
""If you torture your data long enough, they will tell you whatever you want to hear" has become a popular observation in our office.
In plain English, this means that study data, if manipulated in enough different ways, can be made to prove whatever the investigator wants to prove.
Unfortunately, this is generally true. Because every investigator wants to present results in the most exciting way, we all look for the most dramatic, positive findings in our data.
When this process goes beyond reasonable interpretation of the facts, it becomes data torturing.
The unfortunate result of torturing data is the dissemination of incorrect information to the research community and to patients.
James L. Mills, M.D., M.S.
h t t p ---> content nejm org cgi content full 329 16 1196"
God bless.
Bee
Anonymous Kavanaugh at 1:48 PM,
Your posts are becoming like Mark Thomas' - lacking coherence.
Nice to see Father McDonald outing you!
What Bee said.
Bee - You fall into the John Nolan school of failing to understand that words have more than one meaning.
Karma ALSO means: "destiny or fate, following as effect from cause." (source: Oxford Languages) It CAN be a Hindu/Buddhist doctrine, but it CAN be something else as well.
You see, a person who is generally, shall we say, dismissive of the need for being extremely careful during the pandemic - he noted in his video that in his rectory people come and go all the time - should not be surprised when that casual attitude leads to the effect (contacting the virus) from the cause (not being especially careful.)
Fr. McDonald - It is sinful to bear false witness as you have done regarding what I have clearly stated numerous times about the possibility of contracting disease from the common cup. You can run away from your guilt as much as you want - it doesn't change the facts.
Bee here:
Anonymous at August 6, 2020 at 4:32pm:
Ah, you once again avoid the point someone else makes, and redirect, so as to not address what you really have said and done, which others understand correctly you have said and done.
Too bad for you. You fool no one. Your devices are those of a dishonest man.
God bless.
Bee
No, Bee, there's nothing dishonest in pointing out that the definition of karma you cited is not the only definition.
Your "point," that citing karma makes a Catholic a heretic, is simply wrong.
You are a foolish person.
Anonymous Kavanaugh at 7:33 PM,
Bee is far more spiritual and erudite than you. Maybe you should work on conversions and vocations and tending to your flock than wasting our time with your crap. You are Mark Thomas on steroids. I hope Father McDonald keeps outing you.
Bee here:
Anonymous at August 6, 2020 at 7:33 pm:
God bless you, Anonymous. May God bless you.
Bee
Bee - And God bless, bless you, too.
May karma never have reason to visit you.
As Tiny Tim said in " A Christmas Carol"
" May God Bless us everyone "
Anonymous Kavanaugh at 8:27 AM.
I think Karma is more likely to visit you.
TJM - It is apparent that you are already a karma victim. I hope you can recover.
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