Obviously, Catholic theology of funerals differs with the black Protestant experience. But it was refreshing to hear this commentary on Fox and Friends and the banter between the Christian host and her guest!
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Ainsley: "The Black community believes that if you accept Christ that you are going to heaven and you'll be reunited with your loved ones, with Jesus."
Ainsley: "The beauty of Christianity or faith is that we have our beliefs and that we're united under those beliefs because any Christian around the world believes that same thing."
Ainsley: "They (the disciples) were probably cussin' up a storm..."
How on earth could you find this gobbledygook "refreshing"?
"The Black community"
Yep, all those Black folks, they are all the same and they all believe the same things about Jesus.
"...because any Christian around the world believes the same thing."
Oh REALLY? You, Fr. McDonald, believe the same things as the Episcopal Bishop of Washington Maraiann Budde, or Dr. Richard Mouw, the fourth President of Fuller Evangelical Seminary, or Fr. James Martin, SJ?
"...cussin up a storm"
A more self-serving gloss on the lives of the disciples would be hard to find.
And you think this drivel is "refreshing"?
Obviously you have never served in a black parish, went to funerals of non Catholic relatives of parishioners and was shown hospitality by the congregation and their minister who always invited me to sit in the sanctuary with him. In 1980 as a newly ordained priest, I preside at an African Methodist Episcopal funeral because all their ministers were out of town and the deceased was the mother of a Catholic 8th grader at our school.
I don’t agree with Protestant theology on many things including funerals, but I respect those who differ in their beliefs from me and entrust them to God’s love as i am sure they entrust me. Proselytizing those who don’t want it is a scourge and Pope Francis rightly dismisses it as did my ultra conservative pre-Vatican II father taught me not to do prior to Vatican II.
I am sorry that you are so narrow minded that you can’t see the good in the Protestant ethos of this interview. If you lived in a primarily Protestant culture as I have for most of my life, you might be able to be more open minded to the good in this interview.
I respect their beliefs as well. I also disagree with them as their stated beliefs do not reflect the Faith of the Apostles, a matter which seems to be of little concern to you.
You're just all giggly that someone on FAUX news mentioned Jesus. It doesn't matter to you that Ainsley lumped all Blacks together, that she lumped you in with Episcopalians, Evangelicalism, and Fr. James Martin, SJ, and that she completely invented the idea of "cussin" disciples.
In other words, it doesn't matter to you that she knows diddly-squat about Christianity.
I'm sorry that you have so little respect for the Catholic faith that you are willing to overlook the balderdash Ainsley put forth.
I'm open minded; but unlike you, my Catholic mind hasn't fallen out and gotten lost.
Above anonymous,
Phew! Or Wow!
That was quite nasty.
GS.
Thanks for posting this. It is so much better than all of the hatred that we have seen all week.
Ainsley lumped all Blacks together, that she lumped you in with Episcopalians, Evangelicalism, and Fr. James Martin, SJ,
Yes, I, African American Christians, Episcopalians, Evangelicals, and Catholic priests like Fr. Martin all express a faith in Jesus Christ and are bound together by that common faith.
Uh the apostles were not sent out to mingle and they weren't defending the Faith as some of those who minimize or reject the need for evangelizing say. They were proclaiming it. Indeed one could say they were 'proselytizing' as most of them were martyred.....and Jesus knew they would be.
Jesus founded the One, True Church, and the Eucharist is the Source and Summit of the Christian Life. That right there dispels the common faith idea never mind that some protestant denominations deny the need for baptism, some deny the Trinity, some support abortion and same sex marriage, etc.
Kurt said .....all express a faith in Jesus Christ and are bound together by that common faith.
They need to express The Faith in Jesus Christ.
They need to express The Faith in Jesus Christ.
I didn't comment on what THEY need to do. I commented that I am bound with them in a common profession of faith in Jesus Christ.
"Jesus is Lord" is an inadequate profession of faith. Also inadequate are, "I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior," "Jesus saved me and He can save you," "I am a Christian," etc.
How many KKK members went to church on Sundays, "professing" belief in Jesus, and spent the rest of the week terrorizing black Americans? How many business owners go to church on Sunday, "professing" belief in Jesus, and then pay sub-minimum wages to the field workers in their employ because they know that, as illegals, the workers won't report anything to law enforcement?
A profession of faith, if understood as some Q&A during the Easter Vigil or some assertion of belief in a sentence or two, is inadequate. It's a start, but only a start.
A profession of faith in its proper sense is a life lived in service to others. It is a life formed by the Gospel, and not some off the wall "cussin' disciples" concept. Formed by the Gospel, a true profession of faith is feeding the hungry, instructing the ignorant, housing the homeless, clothing the naked, etc. in the name of Jesus Christ.
I see Anonymous K is still stuck in the Jim Crow Days. Sad.
Most African-Americans would roundly reject "Father" Martin, LGBT, SJ
I am sick of seeing Faux News, when "fake but accurate" cBS is still with us. Most liberals are deaf, dumb, and blind when it comes to real news. Their bible, The New York Times, lies all the time and no longer practices journalists. It is a leftwing viewspaper for liberals
"How many KKK members went to church on Sundays, "professing" belief in Jesus, and spent the rest of the week terrorizing black Americans? How many business owners go to church on Sunday, "professing" belief in Jesus, and then pay sub-minimum wages to the field workers in their employ because they know that, as illegals, the workers won't report anything to law enforcement?"
Well, how about the ones who went to church and didn't do the things you mentioned because they accepted and practiced Christianity as God intended? Churches contain sinners, some worse than others, and some who will eventually come to know what God expects of them. Unfortunately there are some who will never get it.
You might want to refer back to the parable of the wheat and the weeds and a few other related ones.
"Well, how about the ones who went to church and didn't do the things you mentioned because they accepted and practiced Christianity as God intended?"
Those are the ones who actually BELIEVE in Jesus.
Many misguided KKK members will be saved by Gods grace, as will many members of other radical organizations, Left and Right. Sin is sin, and the smallest sin is just as much a smirch upon the righteousness of God as the biggest. The wisdom, mercy, and judgement of Christ is inscrutable, and all our theology is a faltering effort toward understanding. So, what about the Commie, the Klansman, the racist, the atheist who, at the last minute before his death, makes a true Confession...like the thief on the Cross? You gonna' be disappointed to see them at the Mercy Seat of Christ? God does not give a damn about our little divisions and categories by which we pigeon hole each other. I am reminded of a sermon I heard once by an old fire and brimstone country preacher up in Tennessee, speaking of the wrath to come: "And, there you will be in the smoke and fire, and you will look to your left and you will see the blistered skin of a black man and, to your right, the burned and tortured skin of a red man and, there, beside you the smoldering skin of a yellow man...and, all around you, the cries and pleading of members of every race, nation, and clan. And, then, you will look up to Heaven and you will cry out, "But, Lord, we didn't know!" Then, you will see God looking at you over the precipice of Eternity, and you will hear the creak of the hinges of the door to Eternity, the rattle of the chain and the snap of the lock, and God's last words to you..."Well, now you know."
Gene
This is usually given a Scottish twist over here:
'O Laird, I didna ken, I didna ken!'
'Well, ye ken noo!'
Then there was the preacher who warned his congregation that they were in danger of going to a place where there would be 'gnashing of teeth'. A little old lady interrupted:
'But minister, I haven't got any teeth.'
'Teeth will be provided!'
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