New York has been the epicenter of the pandemic. As the Church there reopens, Mass can be celebrated with severe restrictions to include the non distribution of Holy Communion.
Thus Communion may not be received on the tongue or hand:
Of course the priest must receive Holy Communion under both forms in order to complete the Sacrifice of the Mass.
Is this clericalism?
Thus Communion may not be received on the tongue or hand:
Of course the priest must receive Holy Communion under both forms in order to complete the Sacrifice of the Mass.
Is this clericalism?
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The following is from Fr Hunwicke's blog, "Mutual Enrichment" (liturgicalnotes.blogspot. com) :
"Johnson, Get Your Knee Off Our Necks.
They've got us prone and at their mercy. I don't think the Christophobic bullies will easily or willingly give this up.
While great unhindered crowds of the Wokefascisti run riot, 7 people worshipping together can be arrested.
The elite do their traditional 'on the one hand - on the other hand' act, but they are very happy to have the churches locked. When it comes to Knees on Necks and squashed windpipes, padlocked church doors are what an interested analyst should contemplate, not just the actions of one murderous American plod.
I would like to imagine a situation in which the hierarchy told the government exactly when and how they are going to reinstate public worship, beginning in their own cathedrals, and said: 'If that is against your laws, you know where you can find us to arrest us......We already have our own ancestral memories of being banned from worship by your predecessors; of being arrested; and even of worse...
Non possumus sine Dominico. "
Isn't Wikipedia great?!
Non possumus :
We cannot.
Sine dominico non possumus:
We cannot live without this thing of the Lord;
We cannot live without Sunday (worship).
Thanks to Wikipedia I now know of The Martyrs of Abitinae.
They were 49 Christians who were tortured and executed because they illegally celebrated the Eucharist in the year 304.
In 303, an edict of the Emperor Diocletian had prohibited Christians assembling for Sunday worship.
One of the martyrs claimed while being tortured:
Sine dominico non possumus!
I did not know this. I also did not know this phrase is connected with the history of Poland. On May 8, 1953, Polish bishops sent a formal "non possumus" letter to the parry leaders of the Communist People's Republic of Poland, declaring their decisive refusal to subordinate the Church to the Communist state..... In retaliation, the government imprisoned the Primate, Cardinal Wysznski.
Martyrs of Abitinae, pray for us!!
Anonymous at 7:45,
Unfortunately the Catholic Church no longer has real men like Cardinal Wysznski. We have cardinal and bishop surrender monkeys. I have never been so ashamed of my Church. With the exception of a few bishops and priests, they have been MIA hiding in their rectories and toadying to each government edict.
I do not see clericallism at all. Folk continue to act as if this disease is spread only by fingerprint pattern or a deathray from the mouth merely by breathing.
Yes, a hand which covered a cough or sneeze is loaded, as is an otherwise unmuffled cough or sneeze where the main settles fairly swiftly, but, the entire time infected, the entire body is exhuding the virus into surroundings.
Folk are shedding a constant cloud, and where that person stays for any length of time, the virus accumulates in ever higher concemtrations sufficient, finally, to be contagious by enough getting through a recipient immune system to begin unchecked replication in new host body. Proximity and time exposed are the keys to infection.
A sanitized hand is the same as a glove, a muffled with elbow cough is the same as a mask, they MITIGATE spread for a short time exposure, but soon either of those measures is coated externally and contaminated as far as those external are concerned.
Communion can be safe or can be deadly to a significant portion of recipients, depending entirely upon how wafer handled, stored, infection or not of those tasked with the handling/storing/consecration/distribution. Those variables are as variable as those doing it, with some folk rigorous, others slobbo, some heavily infected, some healthy as newborn babes.
If wafers were handled with sugical suite precision, communion for all could be extremely safe. However, most folk at most churches neither know nor care about such, and generally take their own local shortcuts against even published diocese standards, same as they ignore CDC recommendations when inconvenient to own lives regarding minimizing public exposure at this time.
Granted, this must all come together to present a serious risk to recipients, as a stray virus or two normally is not what gets person, but a sustained ingestion of signicant amount through mouth/nose/eyes, such as build-up on hands from touching surfaces and then applied to face. HOWEVER, slobbo handling of wafers, their sustained exposure to a nearby infected person spreading ChiCom pixie dust with every move and word while wearing likely vestments which are not frequently cleaned and thereby loaded, will present a serious risk.
I think Masses never should have been closed, but distributed communion nixed immediately until something changed such as far lower general infection rates, or a vaccine, or fizzled virus, or widespread instant testing, or especially in figuring out a safe distribution method even by infected people...NONE of which has yet to happen, we are EXACTLY where we were in March but with value added cloth face coverings added which have done zero to drop infection rates.
Right now, the danger is not the disease, nor even communion for the masses...the danger is from sloppy people not doing ALL in their power to assure flocks they do not receive a contaminated host. And all those tasked with doing this are by and large only paying shoddy lip service to the concept and leaving it to chance, when, if they really cared, they would be working tirelessly to provide a foolproof way as possible to distribute an unsullied host....the same way I feel those tasked with doing this should be leading more monkish lives for the time being (as are so many of their flocks), and limiting their own public exposure to administering sacraments which only they can do, rather than worrying about own social lives and trendy social causes.
This is absurd against the backdrop of 1000's protesting in very close proximity and at George Floyd's funerals in Minneapolis, Fayetteville and Houston. I'm glad there was this level of support against an outrage but in so far as this was permitted civilly, continuing to push this lock down narrative defies credibility.
It seems to me that a service of Vespers or Morning Prayer would be better.
Bee here:
Bob, I see your point, but isn't this true of any virus in any year? There's a lot unknown about this particular virus, especially why it escalates quickly and results in death in some people, yet produces mild or tolerable symptoms in others. We really don't even know what makes it so deadly in some, or what's the best way to protect ourselves. But we can't make everyplace a bio-hazard lab in our daily lives. It's not only not practical, it's not healthy.
Who knows how many even more dangerous virus are floating around out there, looking for the right host to replicate without hindrance? Yet we live as if they are not there, taking appropriate precautions against them all, like washing our hands and keeping our physical environments clean. Since we do know a great majority of people are able to fight and survive this virus if they get it, I think, until such time as we figure out why some people can't fight it, we should proceed as we have been doing, with caution, but not phobia. And those who know they are at greatest risk (given what we know about it so far) should make appropriate decisions about their own participation in situations where they might get the virus.
I do appreciate your sharing your knowledge of disease and it's spread. Your posts have been very helpful to me in that regard. We do know, however, to some degree the principle of "survival of the fittest" is at work in creation. It is a fact we try to mitigate, but we cannot totally control. At some point we all have to accept the reality of that, and that we cannot control all the factors that threaten our survival. But I do appreciate your contribution to the conversation.
God bless.
Bee
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