Amen! Now, I hope we begin to hear the same from other Bishops around the country. Fr. MacDonald has said the same many times, but not in a homily...hint, hint.
We are on-board with the EF Mass; I doubt the good bishop does the OF Mass ad orientem, but I bet he has a crucifix on the altar centrally like we do for the OF!
Priest facing people is the single worst thing, liturgically, to come out of the spirit of Vatican II. A mandated universal return to ad orientatum in the NO Mass would be the single best corrective. That is the one thing I'm really hoping to see from Pope Benedict before he concludes his pontificate.
As for hymns: basic rule of thumb, which works surprisingly often (and almost 100% for a hymns written after about 1960), is that if it contains first person plural pronouns, it's a) heretical, b) unsingable, c) aesthetically awful, or d) all of the above.
A couple of weeks ago the recessional hymn was (I think the title was) "We are your People," sung to the Vaughn-Williams tune "For All the Saints." Mixing those words (which actually, God help us, included the word "diversity") with that tune was like mixing dirt and ice cream--didn't improve the one and completely ruined the other. I literally couldn't bring myself to sing it.
To include the term "diversity" in a Catholic hymn as some kind of globalist propaganda or as some exhortation is ludicrous. There has never been a more "diverse" institution in the history of the entire world than the Roman Catholic Church! We beat the so-called "liberation" theologies to the punch by preaching the True Gospel for centuries before some angry 60's type came up with the term; we beat the feminists to the draw with veneration of the Blessed Virgin and her role in Christ's life; we also had a powerful, dignified, effective, full time vocation for women, not to mention the countless female Saints in Church history. We also have Joan of Arc (nanananabooboo). And, just where in the pre-civil rights decades would you find blacks and whites worshipping together...in the Catholic Church. And how many nations and continents was it that the Church sent missionary Priests and Nuns for centuries? And, what colors were all those people to whom the missionaries were sent? I thought so. The very mention of the term "diversity" to a Catholic should bring gut slamming laughter.
Father, I also don't know if Bishop Sample offers the OF Mass ad orientem but I know for a fact that Bishop Slattery of Tulsa, OK does in his Cathedral. This has been documented in the Catholic press and Bishop Slattery has written and/or has been interviewed about his reasons for doing so.
Yes Father, I was not clear with my statement, I did mean when would we be hearing this Homily at St Jo?
By the way, I wanted to applaud Father Kwiatkowski's Homily on Purgatory yesterday at the 5PM Mass. It was outstanding, it had some folks around me shaking their heads in disbelief that a Catholic priest would dare tell them from the Pulpit that Purgatory and hell both exist, and that with the exception of the Saints, we'd all be spending time in Purgatory (if not worse if we did not avail ourselves of God's Gift of Confession).
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Amen! Now, I hope we begin to hear the same from other Bishops around the country. Fr. MacDonald has said the same many times, but not in a homily...hint, hint.
Great, when do we get on board?
We are on-board with the EF Mass; I doubt the good bishop does the OF Mass ad orientem, but I bet he has a crucifix on the altar centrally like we do for the OF!
Priest facing people is the single worst thing, liturgically, to come out of the spirit of Vatican II. A mandated universal return to ad orientatum in the NO Mass would be the single best corrective. That is the one thing I'm really hoping to see from Pope Benedict before he concludes his pontificate.
As for hymns: basic rule of thumb, which works surprisingly often (and almost 100% for a hymns written after about 1960), is that if it contains first person plural pronouns, it's a) heretical, b) unsingable, c) aesthetically awful, or d) all of the above.
A couple of weeks ago the recessional hymn was (I think the title was) "We are your People," sung to the Vaughn-Williams tune "For All the Saints." Mixing those words (which actually, God help us, included the word "diversity") with that tune was like mixing dirt and ice cream--didn't improve the one and completely ruined the other. I literally couldn't bring myself to sing it.
To include the term "diversity" in a Catholic hymn as some kind of globalist propaganda or as some exhortation is ludicrous. There has never been a more "diverse" institution in the history of the entire world than the Roman Catholic Church! We beat the so-called "liberation" theologies to the punch by preaching the True Gospel for centuries before some angry 60's type came up with the term; we beat the feminists to the draw with veneration of the Blessed Virgin and her role in Christ's life; we also had a powerful, dignified, effective, full time vocation for women, not to mention the countless female Saints in Church history. We also have Joan of Arc (nanananabooboo). And, just where in the pre-civil rights decades would you find blacks and whites worshipping together...in the Catholic Church.
And how many nations and continents was it that the Church sent missionary Priests and Nuns for centuries? And, what colors were all those people to whom the missionaries were sent? I thought so. The very mention of the term "diversity" to a Catholic should bring gut slamming laughter.
Father,
I also don't know if Bishop Sample offers the OF Mass ad orientem but I know for a fact that Bishop Slattery of Tulsa, OK does in his Cathedral. This has been documented in the Catholic press and Bishop Slattery has written and/or has been interviewed about his reasons for doing so.
Yes Father, I was not clear with my statement, I did mean when would we be hearing this Homily at St Jo?
By the way, I wanted to applaud Father Kwiatkowski's Homily on Purgatory yesterday at the 5PM Mass. It was outstanding, it had some folks around me shaking their heads in disbelief that a Catholic priest would dare tell them from the Pulpit that Purgatory and hell both exist, and that with the exception of the Saints, we'd all be spending time in Purgatory (if not worse if we did not avail ourselves of God's Gift of Confession).
Indeed, Templar, Fr. David preached that sermon at 9:30 as well. I loved it! It is as close as Catholics get to fire and brimstone... LOL!
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