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Monday, February 18, 2019

THE GAY AGENDA OF THE ELITE MEDIA NOW FOCUSES ON THE CHURCH


There is a salacious book on the pink mafia of the Vatican (which oddly enough confirms my contention that the relaxation against concupiscence after Vatican II is in part the culprit for the scandals we are experiencing by saying it all started with Paul VI) and then there is a New York Times hit piece about gays in the priesthood and there are a number of articles about the closested situation of priests in the Church.

The point of all of this is not to tighten up the discipline of professed celibacy in the Church which means chastity, no matter what one's orientation is, but rather to relax it so that priests can marry whoever they want to marry, especially gay marriage. That's the agenda. It is an attack on two of the Sacraments of the Church, Holy Matrimony and Holy Orders not mention an attack on Original Sin, Baptism and Penance.

I have to tell you that currently in my diocese, I do not know of any priests who are living double lives especially of the gay variety. I do know that beginning in the 1970's heterodox theologians were promoting the agenda of recruiting men with homosexual tendencies who could also be celibate. During the vocation crisis that Vatican II's liberal, heterodox agenda fomented, fewer heterosexual men were considering the relaxed, feminized seminary and priesthood with its feminized liturgy but more gays were interested and many dioceses thought "what the heck" and recurited gay men thinking they would be orthodox, or maybe not, who cared. That is now coming home to roost and destroy the moral credibity of the Magisterium to include Pope Francis's credibility.

When I was vocation director, I interviewed many homosexually inclined applicants, some of whom were quite experienced, and I don't recall knowingly accepting anyone who professed to be "gay." That is not to say that men with same sex attractions can't be celibate, but in a gay culture of like minded men in the seminary or priesthood, it become somewhat impossible

There are those in the liberal media and the heterodox wing of the Church that want the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church to become like the Anglican Communion and Protestantism in general.

Haven't Protestant ministers always dated members of their church and married them? Did this ever raise eyebrows about abuse, unequal relationships and the like?

And now liberal Protestantism allow for same sex marriage. Where are these homosexual ministers finding their partners?

And the same if true of divorce. Do liberal Protestants fire ministers who divorce because of adultery and marry their paramour and then are allowed to continue in ministry?

Before gay "marriage" became the law of the land, two gay Episcopal ministers in Macon, both at different parishes, were in a gay relationship and living together with their Bishop of Atlanta saying it was just fine and their Board of Vestries (all laity) saying it was fine with only one woman worried about public displays of affection on church property or at their liturgies.

I asked if heterosexual ministers living with their boyfriend or girlfriend would be cut the same slack. They said NO!

I personally think that the media, secular and heterodox "catholic" are exaggerating the number of gay priests in the priesthood. They want it to be so because they want it canonically and morally legalized in order that gay priests can come out and model gayness for their congregations and do so in "marriage." After all, concupiscence along with original sin and sin in general are a thing of the past unless one opposes the gay agenda for the Church and world. So-called homophobia is the greatest mortal sin everrrrrr!

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

With regard to your comments on the Macon Episcopal ministers, yes, the Episcopal Diocese of Atlanta (the southernmost points of which are Macon and Columbus) is very liberal---more liberal then the state's other Episcopal diocese, based in Savannah. At one of their diocesan conventions, a resolution was passed urging an attack on the AIDS crisis "with all means possible, and all frankness"---in other words, chastity is out the door. While not as weighty an issue as the gay one, their current bishop has shed the traditional bishop's vestments of the miter, cope and chasuble (in most instances, except when at the "high-church" cathedral in Atlanta) and now mainly wears choir robes at confirmations---along with some multicultural-looking stole (awful!) Since Episcopal bishops are elected in a democratic manner, they are a reflection of their laity, obviously unfortunate when it comes to Atlanta. The bishop of the Episcopal diocese based in Savannah is not as liberal as Atlanta's one, but you would hardly call him conservative---he previously pastored a parish in the very liberal Diocese of Washington (DC).

Dan said...

For a moment I read the headline as:

"THE GAY AGENDA OF THE ELITE HIERARCHY NOW FOCUSES ON THE CHURCH"

Not that far off.

Cletus Ordo said...

"I have to tell you that currently in my diocese, I do not know of any priests who are living double lives especially of the gay variety."

I believe you Father.

HOWEVER...as a word of warning to readers: If you have a pastor who shows up for the weekend Masses and is gone or unavailable for the rest of the week, that is a HUGE red flag. And I KNOW that there ARE pastors like that in this diocese.

Mark Thomas said...

Father McDonald said..."I personally think that the media, secular and heterodox "catholic" are exaggerating the number of gay priests in the priesthood."

Archbishop Viganò has pretended that he is aware that the Church is awash in a massive amount of homosexuals within the priesthood.

He claimed that homosexuality among priests is "widespread in many dioceses, seminaries, religious orders, etc."

If Father McDonald is correct, that factions within the Church have, to advance their agendas, exaggerated the amount of homosexual priests, then the following must be asked:

Why has Archbishop Viganò exaggerated the amount of homosexuals within the priesthood?

After all, he is the most prominent figure within the Church who has declared repeatedly that the homosexuality is widespread among priest.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

TJM said...

And the elite media (abortion droolers and gay marriage droolers) will have plenty of assistance from people like "Father " Martin

Anonymous said...

Mr. Thomas,

I strongly suggest exercising caution before presuming to get inside of the head of an archbishop. Especially one with a record of integrity like Vigano.

You have no idea how foolish your posts appear to most of the readers here.

Dan said...

Mark Thomas, there are those who would say that the Vatican positions and "inside" positions that Vigano was aware of may in fact contain a higher percentage of homosexuals than those priests that are slugging away at parishes in South Georgia.

I'm one of those. The career of McCarrick tells me that there is a homosexual "clericalism."

rcg said...

MT: nah, you’re only quibbling about how deep is the wound. ‘Tis not as deep as a well nor wide as a church door. But ‘twill serve.

Anonymous said...

Bee here:

Number 1: I can recall at least 3 guys over the last 20 years or so telling me they had entered the seminary, but left because of the homosexual element to the campus.

Number 2: If you think there's a dearth of people attending Mass now, just see what happens when one of the priests of the parish comes out as gay.

God bless.
Bee

TJM said...

Father Dan,

God bless you!

Anonymous said...

"I have to tell you that currently in my diocese, I do not know of any priests who are living double lives especially of the gay variety."

How WOULD you know, Father? No disrespect meant here, but from personal experience, active gays do not always announce their activities, particularly when employment is concerned.

Anonymous said...

And if you did know of priests in the diocese living "double lives", would you report that to the bishop?

TJM said...

Anonymous Kavanaugh,

Of course I would report it!!! Whether the priest was with a male or a female.

Dan said...

Anonymous said...
And if you did know of priests in the diocese living "double lives", would you report that to the bishop?

It's almost as though there is a hint of fear in this question.

DJR said...

From Marco Tosatti:

"Cardinals and bishops of the Roman Curia and the American episcopate who, according to him [Viganò], took part in this huge cover-up: it [the Viganò testimony] is an endless list of names of prelates, among the most important in the Vatican, who were thus 'outed,' whether rightly or wrongly. (When the Pope dismissed the allegations, his entourage indicated to me [Martel] that Francis ‘was initially informed by Viganò that Cardinal McCarrick had had homosexual relations with adult seminarians, which was not enough in Francis’ eyes to condemn him.')"

Archbishop Vigano has been vindicated time and time again regarding the majority of his statements on these public matters of the Church.

Cardinal Oulette admitted that he told the truth, Monsignor Jean-François Lantheaume (who had firsthand knowledge of certain events) stated that he told the truth, and now several Vatican authorities close to the pope are admitting that the archbishop told the truth (if the author of the latest book about the Vatican can be believed regarding this particular).

May God bless Archbishop Vigano for putting his reputation on the line and speaking out in the cause of Christ.

TJM said...

Father Dan,

No, Anonymous Kavanaugh supports fudgepackerism, just like he supports the Abortion Party