Yikes! Last night I got a call from a number I did not recognize from Orlando. Of course I did not answer thinking it was a robo call. A few minutes later I got a message ping. The voice said, Allan, this is Bishop Elect Stephen Parkes and I just wanted....
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Did you think it was someone offering you a free trip to Disneyland? M---I---C----
Bee here
Ei yi yi! Letting a call from the boss go to voicemail!
Yikes. Hope it all worked out...
God bless.
Bee
This is your new Bishop Elect, and I needed for you to confirm your parish credit card number, date of birth, and social security number.
Even had you picked up on the call, you still (both of you) should have verified bona fides in this day and age. Even now, someone could be calling parishes or chancery claiming to be the new Bishop and folk would be falling all over themselves to show off how knowledgeable they are.
Bee,
Kind of a sneaky boss! I never pick up an unidentified call!
Let's see, if he going alphabetically by first names.....
Fr.Kavenaugh, could be in order number of compl. 😆
Sounds harmless but, certainly a departure from the norm. I would think a blast email to diocesan priests would have been as effective lacking the confusion of robo calls. I wouldn't have answered it either.
I thought it was a robo call but it was an actual call from my new bishop to be. I am on the college of Consultors, although I prefer university. We are meeting him this Wednesday. He just wanted to say hello to his soon to be most favorite priest blogging or otherwise.
Anonymous at 11:07 am,
You may be on to something. Every get a call from the "IRS" asking for payment? It's a total scam since the IRS never calls taxpayers unless you call them first.
Ahh. Misunderstood the chain of events. A nice, friendly jesture. As no one is immune from robo calls, I'm sure the Bishop Elect has experienced the same. I wouldn't worry about it.
Of course you will become his most favorite priest blogging or otherwise (let us not forget, of course, Fr. MJK).
I hear he’s offered Fr K a very senior role within the diocese! VG
The question is does Father McDonald WANT to become his most favorite priest blogging or otherwise. Sort of along the lines of " be careful what you ask for"
CW
Oh?
Fr McD just wants to stroke his ego!
I would not wish VG on my worst enemy
Fr Kavanaugh, what I meant to type is that pehaps Fr McDonald got his call early because his excellency has a list ranked by complaints. 😉
In your case I am sure the diocese will need a Vatican II archivist. 😇
"Fr Allan, as bishop I have a pastoral responsibility towards all my flock, including those attached to the usus antiquior. To this end I would wish to celebrate annually a Pontifical High Mass in my cathedral. Not having done this before, I would appreciate your help in learning the rubrics."
Not too far-fetched; in 2017 the recently-appointed Bishop of Leeds (England), Marcus Stock, said much the same thing. He was coached by an Ordinariate priest in his diocese.
"Fr Allan, as bishop I have a pastoral responsibility towards all my flock, including those attached to the usus antiquior. To this end I would wish to celebrate annually a Pontifical High Mass in my cathedral. Not having done this before, I would appreciate your help in learning the rubrics."
Wouldn't it be nice, here in America, to hear of a bishop either new or senior, who loves his craft so much that he wants to keep learning, improving and, therefore, ministering to his whole flock, not just the NO part? To be fair, there are some. Unfortunately, their numbers are few.
The idea that a bishop who does not celebrate a "Pontifical High Mass" is ministering to only a portion of his flock is laughable.
Must a bishop play rugby to minister to the rubgy players? Must he "keep learning" and become adept at contract bridge, or will he be accused of ignoring the bridge players?
Bishop minister in many ways to their entire flocks, some of which portions of those flocks either don't like or refuse to pay attention to.
Maybe those Pontifical Mass Attendees need to adjust their way of thinking, not the bishop.
Anonymous Kavanaugh
The fact that you conflate rugby or bridge with the sacred liturgy is proof positive that you have zero liturgical sensibility and have no business being a priest. I have cut you some slack in the past but it stops here. Take it up with Marcus Stock.
"Must a bishop play rugby to minister to the rubgy players? Must he "keep learning" and become adept at contract bridge, or will he be accused of ignoring the bridge players?"
Obviously, at first pass, no. However, if he wishes to be better able to relate to the people engaged in those activities, thereby being more pastoral, would not he profit from knowing about that in which they participate and their motivation for so doing?
Anonymous, You can respond with your viewpoint without being disrespectful. Some of the Anonymous posters on this blog seem to let manners leading to civil discussion fall by the wayside when the opinion expressed is not consistent with their own.
ByzRC - Thank you. I do not require lectures from you on civility.
You ask, regarding rugby, "...would not he profit from knowing about that in which they participate and their motivation for so doing?"
No, I don't think knowing any more about rugby than the average rugby non-player would be of any benefit to the bishop in carrying out his ministry whatsoever.
As if people have not heaped unreal expectations on their priests and bishop already, now we are to think that, if they are to be truly pastoral and better able to relate to people, they they must become familiar with rugby, bridge, crocheting, kayaking, scrapbooking, souffle baking, stamp collecting, model airplane building, karate, magic, reading, zumba, slot car racing, birdwatching, train spotting, magbet fishing, topiary, and archery.
What other hobbies would you want to suggest?
Once again, John Nolan, you do your darndest to make a point, and fail.
I did not conflate rugby with the sacred liturgy.
What I compared was 1. a bishop who knows about rugby and 2. a bishop who knows little or nothing about rugby.
THAT is the comparison.
Bishop 1 is just as capable and prepared to carry out his pastoral ministry as Bishop 2.
You may keep your slack. Be careful with it, though. This time you've used it to tie yourself up in knots.
Oh, and Marcus Stock is up, at the moment, 3.28%!
John Nolan,
It sounds like Bishop Stock is a liberal and generous man. Too bad much of our clergy cannot take a cue from him, rather than adopt the attitude of our resident snark master.
Anonymous,
We're discussing the holy sacrifice of the Mass in the extraordinary form. Not hobbies. While you did not conflate, to me, the comparison is weak. I do not think that it is asking too much for a Bishop to be familiar, conversant etc. in that which is part of our history, tradition and which part of his flock chooses to participate. You, obviously, don't agree.
And, yes, actually, you do need a brush up on civility if coming from me or, anyone else you rudely engage within this forum.
ByzRC - I find it an unfortunate reality that people who speak their minds directly are considered "rude."
This falls into the same category as folks who, when they say why they are displeased with Candidate Smith, are called "haters."
It is not rude to speak one's mind, and it is not hate to say why one disagrees with a Candidate's positions.
A bishop who is "familiar, conversant" with the NO Mass is "familiar,conversant" with the EF Mass in any of it's peculiar permutations. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. If a bishop knows the Mass, he knows the Mass.
Now, he may not know precisely where his hands are, by liturgical law, required to be when this or that phrase is spoken during the canon, but one can hardly argue that that knowledge will make him more pastorally aware and sensitive.
Anonymous Kavanaugh,
You need a course in remedial English. It’s permutations should be its permutations.
I want our new Bishop to teach and defend the deposit of faith and work for the salvation of souls. A job description most of them have given up on.
Paul McCarthy,
But Global Warming, illegal aliens, kow-towing to big government! Aren't they are primary mission?
'A bishop who is "familiar, conversant" with the NO Mass is "familiar, conversant" with the EF Mass in any of it's (sic) peculiar permutations.'
It depends on what you mean by familiar and conversant. There are a number of different rites of Mass in use in the Catholic Church, and they are all valid. It doesn't follow that if you can celebrate one rite you can celebrate them all. If Fr Kavanaugh were to celebrate his liturgy of choice (Novus Ordo, English) for the Catholic Copts he would no doubt be able to reassure them that it was a valid Mass, but if he claimed to be familiar and conversant with their ancient liturgy, they would quite rightly be sceptical.
I do know a priest (Fr Gabriel Diaz-Patri) who is genuinely bi-ritual as he celebrates both the Roman and Byzantine rites, and is a noted liturgist. I dare say he could also celebrate the Novus Ordo in several languages, although I have not heard him do so.
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