This sounds like a question for our John Nolan however, the pallium has seen variety in terms of form over the course of its usage. I'm sure many will remember Benedict XVI's inaugural mass with the Holy Father being vested with a pallium that looked very much like the omorphorion used within the Byzantine Churches, both Catholic and Orthodox.
From Wikipedia, with photos and illustrations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallium
The pallium with which Benedict XVI was invested in 2005 was designed by Piero Marini and modelled on that worn by Innocent III (1198-1216) in a famous fresco portrait. I understand that Benedict wanted to wear something unique to the Petrine office; he would have preferred the fanon but deferred to the then papal MC. The 'new' pallium was impractical to wear and in 2009 the Pope placed it on the tomb of St Celestine V, who had resigned the papacy in 1294. By then he had adopted a conventional style of pallium but with red crosses instead of black.
The pallia are blessed by the pope on the feast of SS Peter and Paul and since 2015 have been usually conferred not in Rome but in the metropolitan's own province by the Apostolic Nuncio. I've no idea what Abp Hartmayer is doing; I've never heard of metropolitan archbishops designing their own pallia. What he is wearing looks like a chasuble decoration rather than a pallium per se.
"Difficult to wear"? Odd, priests continue to wear conical vestments,and bishops the Cappa magna, they seem to manage the "difficult" if they choose. The same is true of B16. He chose to wear an atraditionl oddity after giving up the pallium of the ancient Church.
I find it strange that so many traditionalists call some restorations of ancient customs and practices "archaeologisms." As usual they forget that there was a perfectly good Church and liturgies before Trent. Talk about "cafeteria Catholism!" Of course, there is also a Church and liturgies after Trent, imperfect on the human level as they are. They forget this is also true of the TLM.
There are those who are just stupid enough, like, lets say a majority of priests and laity who celebrate or attend the NO (rightly offered) that believe they are united with Christ and the Church through praying it.
Ah,many of those who prefer the TLM and believe it the "Mass of the Ages." They think that they alone hold the truth. They are not satisfied that it is offered and they benefit from it must be imposed on the "ignorant." Some might call this "spiritual hubris."
I celebrate the TLM (which in many places was raced through and offered irreverently with little beauty) and the NO (We've all seem the messes that can be made of this Liturgy). Though different both Liturgies confer God's grace, offer the true and precious Body and Blood of the Lord and worship the Holy Trinity.
John, if you can look at the photographs up close you can see that the pallium like object is really an overlay. What I wonder is whether and Archbishop would wear anything like that before the pallium was officially bestowed upon him by the nuncio.
If you go to the Vatican website and then liturgical celebrations then Solemnity of Peter and Paul, you'll find a nice picture of the Pope blessing all the pallia on two silver trays. They are all the standard pallia that all metropolitan archbishops wear. On Archbishop's Hartmayer's Facebook page, it shows the pallium, but he's wearing that other thing. I wonder if some well-intentioned but misinformed person gave that big pallium-thing thinking it was okay. Time will tell.
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This sounds like a question for our John Nolan however, the pallium has seen variety in terms of form over the course of its usage. I'm sure many will remember Benedict XVI's inaugural mass with the Holy Father being vested with a pallium that looked very much like the omorphorion used within the Byzantine Churches, both Catholic and Orthodox.
From Wikipedia, with photos and illustrations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallium
I looked at the Program for the Installation. Very pedestrian music, no propers, no Latin. Sad
The pallium with which Benedict XVI was invested in 2005 was designed by Piero Marini and modelled on that worn by Innocent III (1198-1216) in a famous fresco portrait. I understand that Benedict wanted to wear something unique to the Petrine office; he would have preferred the fanon but deferred to the then papal MC. The 'new' pallium was impractical to wear and in 2009 the Pope placed it on the tomb of St Celestine V, who had resigned the papacy in 1294. By then he had adopted a conventional style of pallium but with red crosses instead of black.
The pallia are blessed by the pope on the feast of SS Peter and Paul and since 2015 have been usually conferred not in Rome but in the metropolitan's own province by the Apostolic Nuncio. I've no idea what Abp Hartmayer is doing; I've never heard of metropolitan archbishops designing their own pallia. What he is wearing looks like a chasuble decoration rather than a pallium per se.
"Difficult to wear"? Odd, priests continue to wear conical vestments,and bishops the Cappa magna, they seem to manage the "difficult" if they choose. The same is true of B16. He chose to wear an atraditionl oddity after giving up the pallium of the ancient Church.
I find it strange that so many traditionalists call some restorations of ancient customs and practices "archaeologisms." As usual they forget that there was a perfectly good Church and liturgies before Trent. Talk about "cafeteria Catholism!" Of course, there is also a Church and liturgies after Trent, imperfect on the human level as they are. They forget this is also true of the TLM.
There are those who are just stupid enough, like, lets say a majority of priests and laity who celebrate or attend the NO (rightly offered) that believe they are united with Christ and the Church through praying it.
Ah,many of those who prefer the TLM and believe it the "Mass of the Ages." They think that they alone hold the truth. They are not satisfied that it is offered and they benefit from it must be imposed on the "ignorant." Some might call this "spiritual hubris."
I celebrate the TLM (which in many places was raced through and offered irreverently with little beauty) and the NO (We've all seem the messes that can be made of this Liturgy). Though different both Liturgies confer God's grace, offer the true and precious Body and Blood of the Lord and worship the Holy Trinity.
John, if you can look at the photographs up close you can see that the pallium like object is really an overlay. What I wonder is whether and Archbishop would wear anything like that before the pallium was officially bestowed upon him by the nuncio.
Fr MJK
That's what I thought. I've seen modern vestments with decorative overlays and they are by no means unattractive.
There are new pics on the way - this time a white chasuble with the same pallium overlay. I like it better than the rumpled one most commonly seen.
If you go to the Vatican website and then liturgical celebrations then Solemnity of Peter and Paul, you'll find a nice picture of the Pope blessing all the pallia on two silver trays. They are all the standard pallia that all metropolitan archbishops wear. On Archbishop's Hartmayer's Facebook page, it shows the pallium, but he's wearing that other thing. I wonder if some well-intentioned but misinformed person gave that big pallium-thing thinking it was okay. Time will tell.
JR,
I started watching Dallas reruns!
Is the protocol for an Installation Mass for the Archbishop to wear the pallium?
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