What is it about the post-Vatican II formation or deformation of priests and the Ordinary Form of the Mass that any priest would turn the Mass into his own platform to be creative, relevant, meaningful and just stupid?
Could you imagine seeing something like this with the EF Mass???? Even a deformed priest could not manipulate the EF Mass as he can the OF Mass!
This is World War II color footage of a Mass onboard a Navy Ship near Japan. Mass is being celebrated under harsh conditions. Yet look at the reverence of the priest, but more importantly, the reverence of these Catholic sailors many of whom probably died in the war. Notice in particular the reception of Holy Communion. What is it about the very intrinsic nature of this form of the Mass that reverence is so palpable and the priest’s looks and personality are so, so much in the background and unimportant? No clericalism here compared to the video above.
The first video of the relevant Mass at the top I got from a relatively good post on Praytell, which shocked me, a good post, that is. You can read it HERE.
However, there is this comment that I really like but good old Fr. Alan, I think he is, misses the disease although he diagnosis the symptom:
Could you imagine seeing something like this with the EF Mass???? Even a deformed priest could not manipulate the EF Mass as he can the OF Mass!
This is World War II color footage of a Mass onboard a Navy Ship near Japan. Mass is being celebrated under harsh conditions. Yet look at the reverence of the priest, but more importantly, the reverence of these Catholic sailors many of whom probably died in the war. Notice in particular the reception of Holy Communion. What is it about the very intrinsic nature of this form of the Mass that reverence is so palpable and the priest’s looks and personality are so, so much in the background and unimportant? No clericalism here compared to the video above.
The first video of the relevant Mass at the top I got from a relatively good post on Praytell, which shocked me, a good post, that is. You can read it HERE.
However, there is this comment that I really like but good old Fr. Alan, I think he is, misses the disease although he diagnosis the symptom:
It’s back to the 1960’s again!
My Seminary years were plagued by people wanting to have ‘meaningful’ liturgies, which were usually turgid ‘Bible Services’ on Saturday evenings.
However, the ‘folk’ music we used, much of which was written by the students, most of it was Scriptural and some of it very good, sort of made things more bearable.
But the experience has given me a sort of PTSD about ‘relevance’ and ‘meaningfulness.’
AG
Of course, I resonate with his “back to the 1960’s again” which I have been complaining about ever since March 13, 2013. I resonate with his PTSD comment too!
But the correct observation about “relevance and meaningfulness” is only a superficial diagnosis. The problem is intrinsic to what praytell calls the “reformed” Mass as opposed to the “unreformed” Mass. Reformed = good; Unreformed = baddddd!
The state of the “reformed” Mass today is so dismal compared to the “unreformed” Mass prior to the Council, that one now realizes that we need another Ecumenical Council to reform the intrinsically deformed reformed Mass. We need a “reform of the reform.”
The problems with the pre-Vatican II Mass which the council fathers thought needed reforming are minuscule compared to the reformed Mass we got from Pope Paul VI and His Holiness’ rogue concilium.
But also, that ecumenical council needs to examine the deformation of the priesthood as a result of the erroneous interpretation of Vatican II, that priestly formation leads to such deformation. We need a reform of the reform of the formation of priests.
