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Wednesday, December 10, 2025

SOME WONDERFUL ADVICE FOR OUR WONDERFUL PASTORAL NEW POPE, POPE LEO XIV: WILL HIS HOLINESS HEED THIS ADVICE? STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS THAT HE WILL DO SO!


 RORATE CAELI HAS A GOOD AMOUNT OF ARCHBISHOP GEORG GANSWEIN INTERVIEW WHICH YOU CAN READ IN FULL HERE. BUT BELOW ARE IMPORTANT MONEY BYTES:

REPORTER: Cardinal Kurt Koch recently said in an interview that Pope Benedict had shown a helpful way forward by being convinced that something practiced for centuries could not simply be forbidden. Indeed, the restrictions on the classical liturgy clearly pained Pope Benedict.

Archbishop Georg Gänswein:
It was not only painful [for him], but he also saw, in his role as Pope, that something had to be done to change this state of affairs. He repeatedly stated that the so-called ‘old liturgy,’ that is, the Tridentine liturgy, was never abolished. This is absolutely not the case since, of course, the Tridentine liturgy became the Novus Ordo; that is to say, the language was retained, but the content was somewhat changed. And it is precisely this liturgy that, for centuries, has allowed the Church not only to live, but to live well; the Saints have nourished themselves on it and from it. It cannot be the case that it was legitimate and precious yesterday, but then no longer so from tomorrow. This is, therefore, an unnatural situation, and that was the driving force, along with the experience he gained after the Second Vatican Council—his experience that those who have lost their spiritual and liturgical homeland just need to be returned to this spiritual homeland. This is where his motu proprio and accompanying letter came 

 

REPORTER: What is your assessment of Traditionis custodes and the new regulations for the classical rite?

Archbishop Georg Gänswein:
I have never understood why Pope Francis introduced this restriction. At the time, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith was tasked with conducting an investigation, or survey, of the bishops worldwide. What do you think about Benedict‘s motu proprio? Have the experiences been positive? Have the experiences been desirable? Did anything need to be changed? The results were never published, but of course, we know about them. The result, ultimately, was that a sense of peace had been achieved. It was a path to peace, especially in the liturgy, the most important place of religious life, and there should not be any changes. Why Pope Francis still did this anyway is and remains a mystery to me. Have we not seen, especially in the English-speaking world, the difficulties that arose from this? Even in the accompanying letter from Pope Francis, where he repeatedly referred to John Paul II and Benedict, it is impossible to discern what purpose his restrictions serve.

So, I suspect that for most bishops, today [the classical rite] still remains in the way it had done until Traditionis custodes. But it is, of course, the case that the motu proprioof Francis has indeed been a great burden with regard to this important question of the extraordinary form. 

 

 

REPORTER: What path do you yourself envision now for the future of the liturgical tradition?
Archbishop Georg Gänswein:
I believe that Pope Benedict’s wise approach is the right way—and this has been the case for over ten years now—it is the right way, and this path should be continued without difficulty or restriction. And I can only hope that Pope Leo will also move in this direction and simply continue the process of reconciliation, that this cooperation may also bear fruit.

15 comments:

Mark Thomas said...

There are folks who share Archbishop Georg Gänswein's opinions in question.

There are folks who reject Georg Gänswein's opinions in question.

Examples:

Father Davide Pagliarani, Superior General of the SSPX, as well as Peter Kwasniewski, are among prominent "traditionalists" who have denounced Summorum Pontificum as a flawed, muddled document that had resulted in failure.

There is not any doubt that Summorum Pontificum had failed to accomplish that which Pope Benedict XVI had desired in regard the issue in question.

The bottom line is that His Holiness, Pope Leo XIV, has maintained Traditionis Custodes. I am taught, governed, and sanctified by Pope Leo XIV. Therefore, I am on board with Pope Leo XIV's decision in question.

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My prayer is that God's will be done in regard to liturgy. I am confident that in regard to liturgical issues, His Holiness will conform himself to God's will.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

Glad to read that you gladly accept the reversals of Pope Francis by the reigning Pope, Leo XIV! And wow! You accept the SSPX opinions on this, that and the other and all they stated about Pope Francis and now about co- redemptrix and mediatrix! Wow! Just wow! 🤯

Mark Thomas said...

Father, I, without hesitation, grant unto Pope Leo XIV unconditional reverence and obedience. I do not have any quarrel in regard to his decisions as Pope.

I have viewed his Pontificate as a holy success.

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I agree with the SSPX's assessment that Summorum Pontificum had not achieved the results desired by Pope Benedict XVI.

As I had noted, "There is not any doubt that Summorum Pontificum had failed to accomplish that which Pope Benedict XVI had desired in regard the issue in question."

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I have always rejected the claim that Summorum Pontificum was a flawed, muddled document.

I do not blame Summorum Pontificum's failure in question upon the above.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

TJM said...

TC may have landed Francis a spot in Hell unless he begged forgiveness at the end. It was an act of pure evil, vindictive on steroids

Nick said...

"Father Davide Pagliarani, Superior General of the SSPX, as well as Peter Kwasniewski, are among prominent "traditionalists" who have denounced Summorum Pontificum as a flawed, muddled document that had resulted in failure."

MT, I'm so glad you're learning to trust the SSPX and vile, vicious radtrads like Peter Kwasnieski. Next you'll be telling us Cardinal Siri should've been pope in the 1960s!

"There is not any doubt that Summorum Pontificum had failed to accomplish that which Pope Benedict XVI had desired in regard the issue in question."

You're free to assert that, but it's laughably falsifiable.

"I am confident that in regard to liturgical issues, His Holiness will conform himself to God's will."

This confidence makes no sense in light of history and Catholic teaching on what graces and protections are accorded to the papacy.

Nick

Nick said...

"I do not have any quarrel in regard to his decisions as Pope."

Really, including where his decisions countermand that of his immediate successor? Weren't those holy, holy holy?

Oh, right--I forgot. Your comments express views on the papacy that amount to voluntarism on the level of the Mormon head prophet.

Nick

Nick said...

"I have viewed his Pontificate as a holy success."

Declaring glorious victory at the top of the second inning, when down 0-1.

"I have always rejected the claim that Summorum Pontificum was a flawed, muddled document."

Summorum Pontificum was without flaw, but so is Traditionis Custodes. Lol.

Nick

Mark Thomas said...

Father McDonald said..."You accept the SSPX opinions on this, that and the other and all they stated about Pope Francis and now about co- redemptrix and mediatrix! Wow! Just wow! 🤯"

I did not say anything akin to the above.

Father, most days, I am a dummy. But I am a dummy today.

Here is an old reference...

I am Johnny, or Pedro, and your are Señor Wences...speaking for me.

:-)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWXwqTIB5PM

Pax.

Mark Thomas

ByzRus said...

While I don't wish to speculate on the potential temperature of his soul's current location, I do hope this was a point of review along the way.

Marc said...

ByzRus, your comment has me curious whether Eastern Catholics accept the concept of Toll Houses... Interested in your thoughts if you have time despite its not being even remotely relevant to this blog post!

ByzRus said...

Marc, in brief, we don't accept the punitive concept of purgatory, we face a "particular judgement" after death, toll houses aren't dogmatic, they are a pious concept that, metaphorically, should focus and guide our life's choices.

Marc said...

That's interesting, Byz. Thanks for responding. I wonder if this is a point of significant divergence between Eastern Catholics and Orthodoxy... Do you guys accept the whole Beatific Vision thing from Roman Catholicism?

ByzRus said...

Marc. How so? If you lay our theologies side by side, they are largely aligned. Toll houses are a theological opinion, by the way. As we await the final judged, we, respectively, heal and grow.

By extension, Eastern Catholics are supposed to accept purgatory and the beatific vision, however, they are not part of our theology absent finding a way to dovetail them in to appease our masters, if you will. In other words, I, perhaps some portion of "we" privately adhere to Orthodoxy, but you didn't hear me say that.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

I’ve never heard of “toll house” as it concerns judgement. Does the one getting judged get cookies while waiting?

Marc said...

Byz, I may have misunderstood what you meant by rejecting a punitive concept of purgatory. I thought you were saying that Eastern Catholics accept purgatory, while rejecting a punitive aspect. That would not align with an Orthodox understanding of the afterlife — similarly, the idea of a Beatific Vision after death would not align with Orthodox teaching.

As for Toll Houses specifically, I think the debate about this is a particularly American thing: Orthodox in the West have a tendency — as a result of our post-enlightenment skepticism — to see such things as mythologizing. We have a hard time with the idea that something symbolic is also real. Yet, many of our liturgical prayers are quite clear about the reality of Toll Houses, and we have the testimony (often in great detail) of the saints about their reality. But what that reality means is hard to grasp.

For sure, there are no cookies involved, but there are demons! God help us all.