And His Excellency also distributed Holy Communion to communicants kneeling at the altar railing he approved for Saint Anne’s. Savannah, as well as Charlotte, are both in the Province of Atlanta…
And His Excellency also distributed Holy Communion to communicants kneeling at the altar railing he approved for Saint Anne’s. Savannah, as well as Charlotte, are both in the Province of Atlanta…
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That’s a wonderful group photo, Father! Thank you! What a great “capture” of the inimitable Fr. Dawid, resplendent in a Chasuble which boldly and unapologetically proclaims that he knows exactly Whom he serves! And let’s not miss all that gorgeous “ Grandmother’s lace” and the radiant faces of the AltarBOYS- unapologetically male!!!
I still recall with great fondness and gratitude what a great team you and he made at St. Joseph! Fr. Dawid left no doubt in his homilies that there were still 10 Commandments which still included the 6th! And there was no question that there were venial and mortal Sins ( not the euphemism- “ mistakes”!) and Holy Communion was not to be received in the state of mortal sin (sacrilegious)! And of course that Mercy/forgiveness presupposes repentance! I have no doubt that he is still unquestionably orthodox ( vs heterodox), a stalwart defender of the Perennial Teaching of the One, True, Catholic and Apostolic Church!
Did the Bishop get permission from the All Highest K?
Hi “Big Benny”! I notice that you have not written a comment in a while! And since some months ago you had asked Fr. McDonald to pray for you because of a health issue and when I had said that I too would be praying for your speedy and complete recovery ( paraphrasing), you had responded that you were beyond that point (again, I’m paraphrasing )! I have continued to pray for you, and would like to know how you are doing!
God Bless you!
"Thank you! What a great “capture” of the inimitable Fr. Dawid, resplendent in a Chasuble which boldly and unapologetically proclaims that he knows exactly Whom he serves!"
Sophia goes Wild here... Since when was a chasuble designed, intended, or, outside of Sophia's own mind, thought to be a sign that proclaims whom the priest serves?
This, Sophia, is nonsense. UNLESS you are going to say the same thing about a chasuble that is "resplendent" with an image of the Virgin Mary, or St. Faustina, or some other lesser being. Is the priest who wears that chasuble serving St. Faustina? If he is, he needs to be re-trained.
Based on YOUR comments to Father Anthony it is YOU who need retraining. Not big on self reflection are you?
Oh goody, another moment for a priest to snidely and overconfidently "correct" an enthusiastic laywoman.
In any event, your narrow-minded response shows how literal you have forced yourself to be in order to get one over on Sophia. Giving Sophia's comment a fair reading in light of what is pictured, "a Chasuble which boldly and unapologetically proclaims that he knows exactly Whom he serves" refers to the precious materials and good workmanship of the vestment making it particularly fit for its use in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. I suspect you aren't unfamiliar with some of the "nonsense" that's passed for sacred vestments over the last half-century--though I suppose you wouldn't consider them nonsense. It also doesn't literally have an image of God on it, so your little, over-literal jab about the use of images of non-divine Saints doesn't hold up, either.
Good grief, it's Monday morning and three days before Christmas. The Panthers didn't even lose yesterday. Or maybe you need re-training in pastoral accompaniment? Or in deconstructing your inherent clericalism?
Nick
Nick - So, maybe you know. Since when was a chasuble designed, intended, or thought to be a sign that proclaims whom the priest serves?
What is "particularly fit for use on the mass" has varied greatly through the centuries, so there is no one style, one fabric is that fitter than another.
Is the conical style fitter? The Borromeo style? The Gothic? Certainly you can't think that the recrdudescence of the "fiddle-back" style which was condemned by St. Charles Borromeo as a break with tradition, is a good thing.
Nick,
Just so you know, the All Highest K also votes for "abortion is healthcare!"
In the meantime, a serious article about the false scholarship promoting Versus Populum celebration for serious people reading here:
https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2025/12/the-altar-facing-people-novelty-of-our.html
If only the Internet had existed in 1964 a lot of liturgical "scholarship" could have been debunked quickly and effectively.
So sorry, Fr. Kavanaugh- clearly I have “ struck a nerve”! In fact from the first time we “ butt heads” over your illogical, Theologically unsound, brazen, ferocious defense of your persistent voting for the “ Party of Death” -as that Dear, very mild mannered , thoroughly orthodox( vs heterodox) Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke so candidly and aptly characterized the Democrat Party” - I learned much more than I wanted to know about you!
What I wrote about Fr. Dawid was not a commentary on whom you serve! Frankly I try to spend as little time as possible thinking about you- except to Thank God that I am not one of your Parishioners-based on what you post on this blog! When I say something that’s specifically about you- I shall mention your name , as I am doing now! You are obviously the center of the universe- in your own mind, but definitely not in mine!
So now I will say one Hail Mary on your behalf, that you be set free from your self- inflicted agitation! And I mean that sincerely! In fact I am going to say it right now- before I hit “ publish”!
Thank you TJM, Nick and others here on this blog who have tried so hard to help Fr. Kavanaugh gain some insight into himself, as frustrating and futile as that has been- so far! I try to remain hopeful in many circumstances!
Part ll of response to Fr. Kavanaugh- I already responded approximately. 30 mins. ago - way past our kind host’s bedtime unless I hit the wrong button and it went out into space! I’ll redo that tomorrow if it doesn’t show up!
But to continue :
I think what “ stung” you Fr. Kavanaugh, was actually not just what I said about Fr. Dawid’s orthodoxy ( vs heterodoxy) which I supported by what he actually preached not just by what was connoted by what he wore! Let us just say a Priest can wear any chasuble and still be “ orthodox” , as exemplified by what he preaches and lives, but there is almost no chance that he is going to be wearing these symbolic garments and not be “orthodox”, especially when that is confirmed by his teaching and how he lives! Fr. Kavanaugh you got the message “loud and clear”, so you had to try to obfuscate by implying that I was referring merely to the concrete vestments rather than the sincere message they were sending- as supported by Fr. Dawid’s homilies! You conveniently left out any mention of the homilies!
Nice try- but giant fail!
So now that I have reinforced my original comment, I will have to say another Hail Mary for him ( I mean that sincerely ) because the agitation is bound to return! So here it goes, “Hail Mary….Amen!”
Sorry, Fr. MJK, not gonna play your version of minister's cat.
Sophia, well put.
Nick
Sophia,
Thanks for your kind words. The All Highest K is a sad case and thanks for your reminder that we should pray for him.
Merry Christmas!
Fr. MJK, as we head into the Feast of the Nativity, it might be good to praise a commenter's enthusiasm even if it doesn't align with your own viewpoint, learned or otherwise. Teaching can be done, and done well, in different ways.
As a general comment, and for what it's worth, Fr. Dawid's chasuble is truly beautiful. His grace also was nicely vested. While I personally would be a little uncomfortable vesting in such an ornate alb, it is beautiful, and I understand why people like that look.
In my Eastern Catholic mind, ad orientem is just so right. Offer on my behalf, I don't need you looking at me and it does nothing to make it more engaging/meaningful when you do. Just do your job and address our Lord, God, and Savoir on our behalf. Turn and address me when on the few occasions when it is necessary to do so. Case closed.
ByzRus,
Very well said!
Once the supposed justification of Mass facing the people based on early Christian practice fell apart, the only commonly-stated reasons in its support I've seen are (1) people would be mad that the Church was "going back on Vatican II" or (2) not letting them see what's going on at the altar. So, terrible reasons focused on what is most pleasing to Man. Because that's totally what worship and the Mass are about!
Nick
Sorry, naysayers, no nerve was struck. As much as you want to paint yourselves as clever psycho-sleuths, you're way off base.
(If you want to strike a nerve, say something bad about Alex Trebek - I dare you...)
Sophia - I challenge you to refer to ONE theologically unsound/incorrect assertion I have made. Just ONE. Just because I do not share your taste in ecclesiastical decor or your preference for gaudy vestments doesn't mean that my theology is not orthodox. Thank you for the prayers. As for voting, I assume you are - correct me if I am wrong - a consistent voter for the Party of Pedophile Protectors, convicted felons, and at least one candidate who proclaimed that he like to grab women by the genitals.
As for Part Deux - My comment was not about what Fr. Dawid was wearing. It was about your comment thereupon. I don't doubt his orthodoxy. As for Dawid's homilies - where did they enter your original comment of response?
Ol' Nick, when you find support for the idea that a chasuble is meant to be a billboard for the sacerdotal mindset of the priest wearing it, let me know.
Byz - No, I don't think praising enthusiasm when it is misguided is a good idea. One can be enthusiastic without being presumptuous and without going to extremes. G. K Chesterton: "When a religious scheme is shattered, it is not merely the vices that are let loose. The vices are, indeed, let loose, and they wander and do damage. But the virtues are let loose also; and the virtues wander more wildly, and the virtues do more terrible damage. The modern world is full of the old Christian virtues gone mad."
Inventing, even enthusiastically, purposes for vestments, for hymn-singing, for the use of candles, for the reasons we genuflect, or other aspects of the faith diminish the real, theologically sound and tested understanding we have of ourselves and our faith.
All Highest K, that was a pathetic apologia, even for you!
Mick, Mick, Mick... "Yeah but I'm right" is usually the province of trolls and angry Tweetheads, but if that's what you want to roll with... okay.
"I'm not upset, you're just wrong" fits in there, too.
And no, I don't think I'll go to the trouble of "find[ing] support for the idea that a chasuble is meant to be a billboard for the sacerdotal mindset of the priest wearing it[.]" I would say I'm surprised that that's what you have somehow determined my comment said, seeing as it simply referred to "the precious materials and good workmanship of the vestment making it particularly fit for its use in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass[,]" and said nothing about anyone's mindset, except maybe yours.
But on top of your tripling down on demonstrating how your sophisticated seminary dropped the ball on simple logic by misreading my comments once again, your comments in this thread show a particular readiness to employ rhetorical obtuseness and bad faith to somehow prove some misbegotten point. So I can't say I'm surprised.
Lord above, do I have to echo Sophia that I'm glad I'm not a member of your parish and never will be. It doesn't take psycho-sleuths to see what your comments reveal in spades about what you think of people you deem to be less sophisticated, less educated, less wonderfully priestly than you, let alone anyone (or even multiple people!) who has the temerity to disagree with you. It's not as if this is the first time you've picked an unnecessary, snarky comment fight with someone who didn't mention or even refer to you.
And to do so in the last week of Advent and approaching one of the busiest ecclesial stretches of the year--I'd think a sexagenarian priest would have better things to do at such a time than vigorously protest how calm he is while typing up multi-paragraph comments to defend himself for randomly picking on a laywoman he's never met before for being enthusiastic in a way he has judged to be terribly, terribly damaging!--is particularly revealing. No psycho-sleuthing necessary, Padre.
Nick
Nick that was a tour de force. Bravo! Tom
Ol' Nick - Well, you step in to defend Sophia so, yeah, no, no misread. You're on the same page.
Oddly, one of the things the traditionalists hereabouts complain loudly about is the priest in the NO making himself the center attraction, the star of the show. But when a priest wears a chasuble that, according to Sophia, proclaims something about HIMSELF, well, that's OK as long as the traditionalists approve.
Nikki, I hope I am more sophisticated theologically than the great majority of the people in the parishes I serve. Otherwise, the diocese wasted a lot of time and money sending me to school to get the education I have.
As to what I think of people that have less education, well, I think they have less education. That's it. And you know am glad there are people who have more education than I have in many areas - doctors, accountants and CPAs, car mechanics, electricians, etc. Funny, but that doesn't seem to apply in these parts.
If you think I'm wrong about the chasuble as a proclamation of the beliefs of the priest wearing it - well, you know how to correct me. Your choice.
By the way, ANY chasuble, whether it is made of double-knit polyester or silk damask, burlap or satin cotton, whether it is decorated with gaudy images, gold galoons, cross-shaped appliques, or anything else, symbolizes the yoke of Christ taken on by the priest wearing it. The chasuble ALONE is that symbol and needs no additions to make a stronger proclamation. The vesting prayer for the chasuble: "O Lord, you said, “My yoke is sweet and my burden light,” grant that I may carry it so as to obtain your grace. Amen." This, and other vesting prayers, are to remind the priest of the sacredness of his actions and his own unworthiness.
These prayers are private prayers, not proclamations.
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