There was a lot of hoopla over Jesuitical Father James Martin, SJ’s visit with Pope Leo, where the Vatican commented not and the LGBTQ+++unofficial Jubilee pilgrimage.
Here are a few photos with the National catholic Reporter’s take on it:
'Semi-official' LGBTQ+ Jubilee marks watershed moment at Vatican for long-marginalized Catholics
Without a place on that agenda, more than 1,200 LGBTQ+ Catholics gathered in Rome for a pilgrimage of their own Sept. 5-7 to bear witness to lives of faith that have struggled to find a place within their church.
Then, of course, there was the canonical irregular, somewhat tending toward schism, but at least well dressed and quite reverent, the SSPX Jubilee Pilgrimage to Rome. It too was unofficial and after the event, it was taken down from the Vatican Jubilee calendar, but only once it concluded.
Here are some photos, which offer us a study in contrasts:
6 comments:
Well you always get a few rabble rousers at these events. I doubt they were part of the official pilgrimage party.
SPPX may look well ordered but they are still schismatic as a number of diocesan bishops have warned recently.
Some bishops say schismatic, others say not (and even let them use diocesan churches for Mass, or sign off on their Catholicity, as did Archbishop Bergoglio)... Roma non locuta est, cause non finite est.
Nick
By definition they are schismatic. Saying a canonical irregular situation is just a polite way of describing the same!
The German bishops, de facto, are schismatic even though there has been no formal pronouncement, little benny
Nope - German bishops recognise the pope’s authority, obtain mandates for ordaining bishops and have faculties to celebrate the sacraments.
You're the second person this week I've seen claim that "canonically irregular" = schismatic. However, that dog don't hunt. If the Church wanted to say "schismatic," that's what She would say and Her bishops would act accordingly. She has not, and therefore they have not. None of the members of the SSPX are excommunicated qua members of the SSPX. They exercise limited faculties granted by the Vatican--which would make them rather unique schismatics. Moreover, legally, the law is to be read in favor of the one bound by it, and a vague law is no law.
If you want to make the case that they're schismatic, fine. But "canonically irregular is code for schismatic" is about as substantial of an argument in support of that case as a paper doily.
Nick
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