THE ORDINARY FORM OF THE MASS CELEBRATED AS ENVISIONED BY THOSE WHO DESIGNED IT
I would dare say that this "Cathedral" Liturgy should be the norm for most parishes. Our new bishop has a nice singing or chanting voice, but seems reticent to use it for the Liturgy, so this is what is missing, his chanting of his parts of the Mass, but I would suggest that this Mass is quite faithful to the rubrics (for the most part) and General Instruction of the Roman Missal and contains the Ordinary Form's distinctive voice as envisioned by the official reform of the Extraordinary Form of the Mass: (This Mass is the votive Mass of Jesus Christ, Eternal High Priest, which is recovered in the 2012 English Roman Missal)
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Joe Green
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Add to the list of "instruments associated with secular music": tympani, violins, trumpets, horns (French and English), flutes, violas, clarinets, saxophones, cellos, bassoons, oboes, harps, basses, cymbals, snare drums, tambourines, tam-tams, wood blocks, harpsichords, euphoniums, xylophones, and the devil's own instrument, the triangle.
Yes but what you foresee is not going to happen. It is simply wishful thinking that priests are suddenly going to start to show some initiative as regards their celebrations. It has to be mandated, the rubrics have to be tightened, and the people have to be catechized.
Frankly, I do not think individual priests and congregations should be trusted. Hope for the best, yes, but prepare for the worst. Liturgy classes in seminaries should deal with a solid academic and spiritual background but there should also be extremely rigorous and very stringent training in rubrics. Which leads me to the following:
Say the black, do the red. Yes, well, the problem is that there is hardly any red in the OF Missal in the first place! Inter-textual rubrics in the Missal are practically nonexistent. The GIRM blathers on about things and in many places is more like a liberal liturgical pseudo apologetic than an Instruction. De defectibus for some odd and incomprehensible reason was eliminated. I still can't figure that one out. Was the Holy See told that flies and little buggers went extinct?
I have precisely no faith that anything is going to be accomplished on a widespread level without serious changes to the Missal itself. You give good advice, and for people who are looking for it that's great. But if our Catholic culture is going to be restored and if our liturgy, that thing which sustains our culture, is to be restored, then the OF Missal must be given a thorough thrashing and revision.
Amen ytc. We need a Pope who will start using his authority and start cleaning house and mandating what needs to be done. Paul the Vi certainly had no problem doing so to get us into this mess, and now and equally firm hand is needed to get us out.
If "useless repitition is to be avoided", why in the world does my parish use the Gloria from the GIA hymnal where the first few verses are repeated 6 times as a chorus? Please explain.
While we today focus on the EF and the revising of the OF, I can't help but smirk at comments about music and instruments. This very same debate/issue has been occurring for centuries, and was usually left to the local bishop to decide what was appropriate. An example would be the use of a secular dance tune as a primary melody linking the various parts of the Ordinary as opposed to the use of plainsong. Check out on youtube the many L'homme Arme masses--mass settings were named for the principal melody used throughout. The l'homme arme was a song sung about/by Crusaders. You get the idea.
In terms of the repeated refrain for the Gloria, I agree and have come to dislike these types, although I was enamored with them once and up until rather recently. Music is the problem because each of us has our own tastes in both secular and religious music. Who determines what is correct or incorrect. We have way too many choices today for the Ordinary Form and thus the OF has not one voice but way, way too many. We have folk Masses, Contemporary Masses, Gospel Masses, and many other types and genres. Music divides rather than unites the Masses and thus we move further and further away from the universality of the Extraordinary Form that most Catholics prior to the Council were most proud that they were Catholic and worship no matter where they went was the same thus making it clear that in the Lord there is unity at Mass--devotions though had the cultural aspects that are appropriate for devotions but not for Mass. We need very strict laws for music in Catholic worship and instrumentation that include no loopholes.
In 1903 St. Pope Pius X issued a moto proprio on this very matter: Tra le sollecitudini. This is an incredibly important document, and one I wish would be recovered. This is in no way a plug for SSPX, but may help explain a way they have been able to retain what the Church at large has not lost, only forgotten. Not all of the 20th Century was loss. :)
Amen, amen, Father. I have forwarded the link to a local priest whose Mass always follows the Missal, and who always uses a good deal of chant. Unfortunately, the parish music is rife with the devil's instruments, and the hymnal is "Gather".
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Add to the list of "instruments associated with secular music": tympani, violins, trumpets, horns (French and English), flutes, violas, clarinets, saxophones, cellos, bassoons, oboes, harps, basses, cymbals, snare drums, tambourines, tam-tams, wood blocks, harpsichords, euphoniums, xylophones, and the devil's own instrument, the triangle.
Yes but what you foresee is not going to happen. It is simply wishful thinking that priests are suddenly going to start to show some initiative as regards their celebrations. It has to be mandated, the rubrics have to be tightened, and the people have to be catechized.
Frankly, I do not think individual priests and congregations should be trusted. Hope for the best, yes, but prepare for the worst. Liturgy classes in seminaries should deal with a solid academic and spiritual background but there should also be extremely rigorous and very stringent training in rubrics. Which leads me to the following:
Say the black, do the red. Yes, well, the problem is that there is hardly any red in the OF Missal in the first place! Inter-textual rubrics in the Missal are practically nonexistent. The GIRM blathers on about things and in many places is more like a liberal liturgical pseudo apologetic than an Instruction. De defectibus for some odd and incomprehensible reason was eliminated. I still can't figure that one out. Was the Holy See told that flies and little buggers went extinct?
I have precisely no faith that anything is going to be accomplished on a widespread level without serious changes to the Missal itself. You give good advice, and for people who are looking for it that's great. But if our Catholic culture is going to be restored and if our liturgy, that thing which sustains our culture, is to be restored, then the OF Missal must be given a thorough thrashing and revision.
:)
Amen ytc. We need a Pope who will start using his authority and start cleaning house and mandating what needs to be done. Paul the Vi certainly had no problem doing so to get us into this mess, and now and equally firm hand is needed to get us out.
If "useless repitition is to be avoided", why in the world does my parish use the Gloria from the GIA hymnal where the first few verses are repeated 6 times as a chorus?
Please explain.
While we today focus on the EF and the revising of the OF, I can't help but smirk at comments about music and instruments. This very same debate/issue has been occurring for centuries, and was usually left to the local bishop to decide what was appropriate. An example would be the use of a secular dance tune as a primary melody linking the various parts of the Ordinary as opposed to the use of plainsong. Check out on youtube the many L'homme Arme masses--mass settings were named for the principal melody used throughout. The l'homme arme was a song sung about/by Crusaders. You get the idea.
In terms of the repeated refrain for the Gloria, I agree and have come to dislike these types, although I was enamored with them once and up until rather recently. Music is the problem because each of us has our own tastes in both secular and religious music. Who determines what is correct or incorrect. We have way too many choices today for the Ordinary Form and thus the OF has not one voice but way, way too many. We have folk Masses, Contemporary Masses, Gospel Masses, and many other types and genres. Music divides rather than unites the Masses and thus we move further and further away from the universality of the Extraordinary Form that most Catholics prior to the Council were most proud that they were Catholic and worship no matter where they went was the same thus making it clear that in the Lord there is unity at Mass--devotions though had the cultural aspects that are appropriate for devotions but not for Mass. We need very strict laws for music in Catholic worship and instrumentation that include no loopholes.
In 1903 St. Pope Pius X issued a moto proprio on this very matter: Tra le sollecitudini. This is an incredibly important document, and one I wish would be recovered. This is in no way a plug for SSPX, but may help explain a way they have been able to retain what the Church at large has not lost, only forgotten. Not all of the 20th Century was loss. :)
Amen, amen, Father. I have forwarded the link to a local priest whose Mass always follows the Missal, and who always uses a good deal of chant. Unfortunately, the parish music is rife with the devil's instruments, and the hymnal is "Gather".
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