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Sunday, July 15, 2012

ONLY THE BLIND, DEAF AND MUTE, WHO HAVE NOSTALGIA FOR THE 1960'S AND ''70'S CATHOLICISM BELIEVE LIBERAL CHRISTIANITY IS WORTH SAVING AND THAT IT CAN BE SAVED--SILLY, SILLY, SILLY!

UPDATE: Offending hyperbole removed, and apologies to those who were offended by it! :)




MY COMMENTS FIRST: The elephant in the room of the Catholic Church is that progressive liberal Catholics are, how shall I say, like ostriches with their heads buried in the sand or like the caricature above where they see, hear and speak no evil against progressiveness that has diminished the Church. I don't mean to be hurtful, but they have presided over the Catholic Church, which by nature, its Divine Nature, is a conservative institution, but have tried to make it a liberal marshmallow. It has failed miserably. They fail to accept the havoc they have wreaked on the liturgy, on religious life, on Catholic morality and discipline and on Mass attendance, continue to protest that they have the key to the new springtime of the Church. Simply stated, they are either totally in denial or completely enamored with what they have wrought. At any rate, it is my most humble opinion confirmed by ROSS DOUTHAT of the New York Times, that the progressive agenda that transcends Protestant and Catholic affiliations is the culprit that has caused the woes that Protestants have and are experiencing and the Catholic Church too. I suspect the same decline has been experienced in liberal Judaism and would also be experienced in Islam if they had a progressive branch, which I don't think they do.

On another blog, there is a constant mantra about the conservative nature of the current hierarchy of the Church that calls a spade a spade and recognizes that the SSPX has more to offer the future of the Church than the SSPX's mirror images, that of the LCWR, Voice of the Faithful, Called to Action, Hans Kung and Charles Curran combined! This blog continues laments the new and improved English translation of the Mass, the return of the Ancient Mass and the reform of the reform of the Ordinary Form of the Mass although there has been a bit of a openness to it which provides a glimmer of hope for moderation in its attitudes towards the reform of the reform and the hermeneutic of continuity.

It is well past time and patience to say as the New York Times article below declares that liberal Christianity cannot be saved and I say enough is enough. The New York Times article below should be the clarion trumpet of warning to them and that the only remedy is the reform of the reform which needs to be placed in high gear. Vatican II must be understood within the context of the Church as it was when the Council was in session.

Liberal Catholicism like liberal Protestantism and it's modern incarnation the Episcopal Church is doomed to failure, is dying and in a generation or less will be gone. It is a failed experiment whose cost of failure is quite high, but resurrection of true Catholicism only by the resurrection grace of her Savior will obliterate that. It's well on the way and it will continue. It's time for liberal Catholicism and those stuck in the 1970's to give up the ghost and call upon the Holy Ghost to shove them into the reform of the reform and interpreting Vatican II within the hermeneutic of continuity.

As for the Church of Christ, well, the gates of liberalism shall not prevail against her and never will for it is intrinsically flawed and inimical to what the true Church is.

From the New York Times, How can this be? Will wonders ever end?

Can Liberal Christianity Be Saved?
By ROSS DOUTHAT


IN 1998, John Shelby Spong, then the reliably controversial Episcopal bishop of Newark, published a book entitled “Why Christianity Must Change or Die.” Spong was a uniquely radical figure — during his career, he dismissed almost every element of traditional Christian faith as so much superstition — but most recent leaders of the Episcopal Church have shared his premise. Thus their church has spent the last several decades changing and then changing some more, from a sedate pillar of the WASP establishment into one of the most self-consciously progressive Christian bodies in the United States.

As a result, today the Episcopal Church looks roughly how Roman Catholicism would look if Pope Benedict XVI suddenly adopted every reform ever urged on the Vatican by liberal pundits and theologians. It still has priests and bishops, altars and stained-glass windows. But it is flexible to the point of indifference on dogma, friendly to sexual liberation in almost every form,willing to blend Christianity with other faiths, and eager to downplay theology entirely in favor of secular political causes.

Yet instead of attracting a younger, more open-minded demographic with these changes, the Episcopal Church’s dying has proceeded apace. Last week, while the church’s House of Bishops was approving a rite to bless same-sex unions, Episcopalian church attendance figures for 2000-10 circulated in the religion blogosphere. They showed something between a decline and a collapse: In the last decade, average Sunday attendance dropped 23 percent, and not a single Episcopal diocese in the country saw churchgoing increase.

This decline is the latest chapter in a story dating to the 1960s. The trends unleashed in that era — not only the sexual revolution, but also consumerism and materialism, multiculturalism and relativism — threw all of American Christianity into crisis, and ushered in decades of debate over how to keep the nation’s churches relevant and vital.

Traditional believers, both Protestant and Catholic, have not necessarily thrived in this environment. The most successful Christian bodies have often been politically conservative but theologically shallow, preaching a gospel of health and wealth rather than the full New Testament message.

But if conservative Christianity has often been compromised, liberal Christianity has simply collapsed. Practically every denomination — Methodist, Lutheran, Presbyterian — that has tried to adapt itself to contemporary liberal values has seen an Episcopal-style plunge in church attendance. Within the Catholic Church, too, the most progressive-minded religious orders have often failed to generate the vocations necessary to sustain themselves.

Both religious and secular liberals have been loath to recognize this crisis. Leaders of liberal churches have alternated between a Monty Python-esque “it’s just a flesh wound!” bravado and a weird self-righteousness about their looming extinction. (In a 2005 interview, the Episcopal Church’s presiding bishop explained that her communion’s members valued “the stewardship of the earth” too highly to reproduce themselves.)

Liberal commentators, meanwhile, consistently hail these forms of Christianity as a model for the future without reckoning with their decline. Few of the outraged critiques of the Vatican’s investigation of progressive nuns mentioned the fact that Rome had intervened because otherwise the orders in question were likely to disappear in a generation. Fewer still noted the consequences of this eclipse: Because progressive Catholicism has failed to inspire a new generation of sisters, Catholic hospitals across the country are passing into the hands of more bottom-line-focused administrators, with inevitable consequences for how they serve the poor.

But if liberals need to come to terms with these failures, religious conservatives should not be smug about them. The defining idea of liberal Christianity — that faith should spur social reform as well as personal conversion — has been an immensely positive force in our national life. No one should wish for its extinction, or for a world where Christianity becomes the exclusive property of the political right.

What should be wished for, instead, is that liberal Christianity recovers a religious reason for its own existence. As the liberal Protestant scholar Gary Dorrien has pointed out, the Christianity that animated causes such as the Social Gospel and the civil rights movement was much more dogmatic than present-day liberal faith. Its leaders had a “deep grounding in Bible study, family devotions, personal prayer and worship.” They argued for progressive reform in the context of “a personal transcendent God ... the divinity of Christ, the need of personal redemption and the importance of Christian missions.”

Today, by contrast, the leaders of the Episcopal Church and similar bodies often don’t seem to be offering anything you can’t already get from a purely secular liberalism. Which suggests that per haps they should pause, amid their frantic renovations, and consider not just what they would change about historic Christianity, but what they would defend and offer uncompromisingly to the world.

Absent such a reconsideration, their fate is nearly certain: they will change, and change, and die.

10 comments:

Templar said...

1) Shocked to see this article was from Hell's Bible because it was almost complimentary to the Catholic Church in a back handed sort of way.

2) I like the idea of Exorcisms for the Libs. Sorry but I can't shake the picture of Father Kwiatkowski pressing a Crucifix into a certain someone's head shouting "Our Lord Jesus Christ Compels You"

ytc said...

Templar!

I think you mean, "Domini Nostri Iesu Christi cogat," and, "Exorcizo te!"

That fits in with Fr. K better, I think.

Gene said...

The NY Slimes misses the point...it is about unbelief. Theological liberalism is unbelief. Perhaps people are finally catching on.

Oh...with regard to the Episcopal Bishop's statement, "...our members value the earth too much to reproduce themselves...." Praise God from whom all blessings flow! LOL!

Templar said...

LOL, yes ytc, Father would definitely let fly with fluent Latin...I was writing on the fly and posted in English.

By the way, if I understand correctly, the Excorcism Rituals have never been translated from the Latin, so any depictions you see where they are doing an excorcism in a vernacular would be technically wrong. Or so I heard.

Henry Edwards said...

I'm afraid you still don't have it quite right, Father M. To me, many of those ultra-progressives seem neither imbecilic nor heads in the sand. They appear to be fully aware and quite intentional in their continuing efforts to destroy every vestige of the Church of history, what they sometimes refer to as "institutional Church".

William Meyer said...

Henry, I am inclined to agree. When I hear a DRE profess that her favorite theologian is Fr. Richard Rohr, I would find it incredible that she might be ignorant of how far Fr. Rohr is from full communion with Rome. And when I spend two years in RCIS, where never any mention is made of the CCC, and the answer to a question about ordination of women is "well... not yet", these are things which are done or said (or ledft unsaid) by chance.

ytc said...

Actually the Rite of exorcism can be translated into the vernacular per the CDWDS, but as far as I know no one has done it, and that's a good thing.

Marc said...

If satan is afraid of Latin, does that mean that those who are against the use of Latin in the liturgy are possessed and in need of exorcism?

:-)

Ostro Picta said...

If all it took for Satan to flee is Latin, I would gladly get-off-my-lazy rear-end and refresh myself, lol.

The book and workbook are still sitting on my dresser (unopened for 6 months). :)

Gene said...

Marc, Satan is not afraid of Latin...it is just that it reminds him of my HS Latin teacher. He is as terrified of her as we all were. She was barely 5 feet tall, and carried a wooden pointer around the room as we stood to recite. Make a mistake or sound unenthusiastic...WHACK! Let's see... Florus:"Ego nolo Caesar esse, Ambulare per Britannos,
Scythicas pati pruinas."
Hadrian: "Ego nolo Florus esse,
Ambulare per tabernas..." Whack! Yep...Satan is terrified of her...