One has to be aware that there was great fear in the Ordinariate community that Pope Francis would do to Pope Benedict’s Anglican Ordinariate what Pope Francis did to Pope Benedict’s Summorum Pontificum. In fact, prior to becoming pope, Pope Francis had disagreed with Pope Benedict’s forming the Anglican Ordinariate. He basically stated that the Church needs Anglicans as they are. Interesting no?
Pope Leo has now enshrined the Ordinariate as a permanent part of the Catholic Communion. The Vatican document praises the Ordinariate Mass for preserving 500 years of Anglican Patrimony inculturated into this form of the Roman Mass. But it also allows the Latin Rite’s patrimony from the 1962 Missal, in terms of PATFOTA, the 1962 Order of Mass, especially the Introductory Rite, the use of the gradual and tract, the older Offertory Prayers, all of them, some of the rubrics of the 1962 Missal for the Roman Canon and our Prayer II, the only two in their missal, and the Roman Canon normally required for Sunday Masses. It also allows specifically for ad orientem and receiving Holy Communion kneeling and at an altar railing.
It also has the triple “Lord, I am not worthy” and other 1962 Missal elements linked to the Our Father!
Once again, let me beg the pope, in this case, now Pope Leo to give to the Bugnini Mass the same options from our 1962 Roman Missal given to the Ordinariate! Not to do so is a huge, I mean, a huge injustice to Bugnini Mass goers and parishes!
Here’s a splendid example of the Ordinariate’s Mass so praised by the Vatican and Pope Leo for its beauty!
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-- Then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio opposed supposedly the formation of the Ordinariates.
That claim had been disputed, then clarified, in 2013 A.D.
AI Overview:
"Anglican Bishop Gregory Venables of Argentina later clarified his report of a 2009 breakfast conversation with then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio regarding the Anglican Ordinariates.
"Venables clarified that the cardinal’s comments were more an "affirmation of Anglicanism" rather than a direct, current criticism of the Ordinariate."
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-- Clarification of comments of Archbishop Gregory Venables
March 19, 2013 A.D.
The website of the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham:
"The Anglican bishop of Argentina and North Argentina, the Rt Revd Gregory Venables (pictured right), has made the following clarification regarding comments reportedly attributed by him to the then-Cardinal Bergoglio:
“The conversation was in 2009 and did not imply that the Ordinariate was either temporary or an error, merely that the speaker values the Anglican Church as it is”.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Flashback to 2015 A.D.
From: The Ordinariate of the Chair of Peter. Press Release.
HOUSTON — Pope Francis has named the Rev. Monsignor Steven J. Lopes to be the first bishop of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter: a structure equivalent to a diocese for Roman Catholics who were nurtured in the Anglican tradition.
"By naming Bishop-elect Lopes, the Pope has confirmed that the Ordinariate is a permanent, enduring part of the Catholic Church..."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Father McDonald, you portrayed the Anglican Ordinariates as having feared Pope Francis (requiescat in pace).
However, from the dawn of his Pontificate, Ordinariate leaders expressed their confidence Pope Francis...as well as appreciation for the wonderful manner in which Pope Francis had treated the Ordinariates.
Example:
March 20, 2013 A.D.
-- Anglican Ordinariate secure, leaders say
"Leaders of the Anglican Ordinariate urged patience and respect in light of statements by the (Anglican) Bishop (Venables) of Argentina that Pope Francis did not favor the creation of a home for Anglicans in the Catholic Church.
"Bishop Venables (Anglican)...later clarified his statement noting the cardinal’s (Jorge Bergoglio) comments were more the affirmation of Anglicanism than criticism of the Ordinariate.
"The report from Bishop Venables sparked some controversy in the British press and speculation Francis might adopt the different tone than his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI.
"A spokesman for the English Ordinariate denied any change is telling the Telegraph the comments were Bishop Venables’ not the Pope’s.
"Following the publication of Bishop Venables’ remarks Msgr. Steenson (the first Ordinary of the Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter on January 1, 2012 A.D.) said he had received a number of inquiries from those “who are concerned about what our new Pope’s attitude may be toward the Ordinariates, occasioned by an anecdotal report from an Anglican bishop in Argentina.”
"He reaffirmed the “real permanence and stability” of the Ordinariate within the Catholic Church, and added...
..."Pope Francis understands the pilgrim character of our communities and will be a wise and caring pastor to us,” Msgr. Steenson said.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
The Ordinariate feared Pope Francis?
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Pray Tell Blog interview with Ordinariate Bishop Steven Lopes.
"There was some question, right after his election in 2013, about Pope Francis’s stance toward the Ordinariate when he was archbishop in Argentina.
"Do you have any sense of the Holy Father’s attitude today toward the three established ordinaries?"
Ordinariate Bishop Steven Lopes: "I don’t put much credence in what was said second or third-hand by this or that person, purportedly knowing the mind of the Holy Father.
"I can only go on my own conversations with the Holy Father about the Ordinariate, and we have spoken twice about it.
"First, I found Pope Francis to be very well informed indeed about who we are and what the Ordinariate’s particular mission is.
"Second, I have found him always to be very, very encouraging.
"It is Pope Francis who expanded a section of Anglicanorum coetibus to underscore our evangelizing mission in the Church.
"It is he who approved our Missal and appointed me Bishop, thereby making ever more concrete the vision of Pope Benedict.
"And Pope Francis still signs off on each and every petition for a dispensation from clerical celibacy in favor of our married clergy candidates.
"We have been tremendously blessed by Pope Francis’ care and concern..."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT, you need to do more research. This is what Praytell reported:
Cardinal Bergoglio (now Pope Francis): Anglican Ordinariate is “quite unnecessary”
Anglican Communion News Service quotes the Argentine Anglican Bishop:
Bp. Venables added that in a conversation with Cardinal Bergoglio, now Pope Francis, the latter made it clear that he values the place of Anglicans in the Church universal.
“He called me to have breakfast with him one morning and told me very clearly that the Ordinariate was quite unnecessary and that the Church needs us as Anglicans.”
Speaking of Anglicans, Father McDonald, this is a must read on the state of Anglicanism written by an Anglican clergyman. Sadly you will recognize elements which have found there way into the Catholic Church:
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/installed-today-a-feminist-archbishop-to-lead-the-church-of-disney-gaia-marx-and-pride/
It is time to admit: 1) The new Mass goes beyond the reform called for by Vatican II, and 2) there is no just reason to have any restrictions on the historical form of the Roman rite. Return to the 1965 reform for all Masses or remove all restrictions on the old Mass and recognize it as equally valid as the new Mass.
Father McDonald, I do not require additional research.
Again, in regard to then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio's supposed opposition to the Ordinariates:
Anglican Bishop Venables of Argentina clarified in 2013 A.D. that during his 2009 A.D. breakfast with then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio (requiescat in pace), our future Pope had not denounced the establishment of the Ordinariates.
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In regard to the claim that great fear of Pope Francis existed within the Anglican Ordinariates:
Just seven days into Pope Francis' Pontificate, Ordinariate leadership declared:
..."Pope Francis understands the pilgrim character of our communities and will be a wise and caring pastor to us,” Msgr. Steenson said.
As the years passed, we have such later testimony from Ordinariate Bishop Lopes:
"First, I found Pope Francis to be very well informed indeed about who we are and what the Ordinariate’s particular mission is.
"Second, I have found him always to be very, very encouraging.
"It is Pope Francis who expanded a section of Anglicanorum coetibus to underscore our evangelizing mission in the Church.
"It is he who approved our Missal and appointed me Bishop, thereby making ever more concrete the vision of Pope Benedict.
"And Pope Francis still signs off on each and every petition for a dispensation from clerical celibacy in favor of our married clergy candidates.
"We have been tremendously blessed by Pope Francis’ care and concern..."
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From the beginning to the conclusion of his Pontificate, the Anglican Ordinariates praised Pope Francis as having cared for, as well as blessed the Ordinariates abundantly.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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