The Pillar has a good news article on the German Heretical/schismatic way, which is not just one religious institute, like the FSSPX, going rogue, but about entire national Church going heretical and schismatic and wanting to spread this contagious heretical/schismatic virus into a worldwide Catholic pandemic.
The SSPX are chicken feed compared to the German Heretical/Schismatic Way. I can’t think of anything heretical in the SSPX but certainly there are canonical and disciplinary issues as well as disrespect for the Supreme Pontiff as certain non-doctrinal pastoral aspects of Vatican II to include the post-Vatican II Bugnini Fabricated Mass.
Here is a money byte from the Coppen/Pillar news story linked in the title below:
German media reported that there was “widespread outrage” at the Jan. 30 session of the sixth assembly after the presentation of a study of the implementation of synodal way resolutions in dioceses. The text was heavily criticized because it presented the results for all 27 dioceses without singling out any by name.
At the Jan. 31 session, participants debated a resolution calling on the synodal conference “to regularly monitor the implementation of the decisions of the synodal way.”
According to a live report on the debate by Kirche und Leben, a Catholic news site based in the Münster diocese, Cardinal Reinhard Marx of Munich and Freising strongly objected.
The site quoted him as saying: “I foresee significant difficulties. I do not want a higher authority that constantly monitors me as a bishop. This is precisely what Rome has criticized. It is not desirable.”
“I caution against pursuing this path. It is evident that we are discussing decisions in principle. However, I am firmly opposed to this proposal.”
Marx’s intervention was notable, because he was one of the synodal way’s architects, presiding over the initiative’s launch in 2019, when he was chairman of the German bishops’ conference.
You can read the Pillar news story by pressing their title:
12 comments:
The only reason the Holy See has not come down hard on Germany is money. Because of a stupid German law which provides tax funds to the German Catholic Church, the German Church has outsized influence in Rome. If Germany decides to strip that funding, the German Catholic Church will have no money because so few German Catholics contribute. If the SSPX had those funds, the Vatican would be slobbering all over SSPX!
Can someone tell me why the Holy Father(s) have not suppressed the Synodal Weg? Why? What is holding them back? As for Cardinal Marx, he is another example of "rules for thee but not for me". Laughable Eminence! You reap what you sow as the saying goes.
Historically, the SSPX taught that the modern rite of priestly ordination was invalid. I'm sure there are quite a few among their numbers who still hold that line considering that some of the Novus Ordo priests who join their ranks are "conditionally re-ordained." That would probably be heretical from your perspective.
Their whole argument really makes no sense. They profess that they must exist -- and must consecrate bishops -- to ensure the "good of souls" and the proliferation of their priestly ministry. That line of argumentation is rooted in their formerly widely held belief that Novus Ordo priests aren't actually priests -- which is at least logical. Since they seem to now believe that Novus Ordo priests are actually priests, their argument for their continued existence "for the good of souls" falls apart at the foundation.
All of this is why some small number of their adherents ultimately go to sedevacantism, which is logical (albeit, absurd).
Anyway, I suspect that the Vatican might actually take a harder line against the SSPX than they will against the German bishops.
It does not matter that the German Synodal Way, as compared to the SSPX, has posed the greater threat to Church unity. The SSPX is in dire need of Rome's attention and correction.
In response to the following: Why does Rome even give the time of day to the SSPX? Pope Benedict XVI had declared:
"Can we simply exclude them, as representatives of a radical fringe, from our pursuit of reconciliation and unity? What would then become of them?
"Should we casually let them drift farther from the Church?"
Pax.
Mark Thomas
It is a shame that the SSPX has announced that in July 2026 A.D., they plan to undertake a grave act of disobedience against God and and His Church via their planned assault upon Pope Leo XIV.
That is Satan at work within the SSPX.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Trad Inc...major players included the SSPX, Rorate Caeli, The Remnant, Peter Kwasniewski...that is just for starters. They have long waged war against Vatican II, the Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI, as well as our Vatican II Era Popes.
The Trad Inc. leaders in question enjoy a vast following within the TLM Movement.
Nevertheless. there are folks who are in profound denial in regard to the widespread anti-Catholic nonsense that one encounters within the TLM Movement.
Said deniers have pretended that only a relative few trad dissidents comprise the TLM Movement.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
So you know more about them than Pope Benedict. Got it
As compared to the SSPX's statement yesterday: The following has exhibited a greater degree of hopefulness:
From: The Apostolic See:
"Contacts between the Society of Saint Pius X and the Holy See are ongoing, with the aim of avoiding ruptures or unilateral approaches to the issues that have arisen."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
I went to their chapels for a number of years. So I know what I know. I don’t know what Benedict knew about them.
I don't worry about the SSPX who are faithful, grounded Catholics who ultimately will save the Church. The Novus Bogus crowd is the one that needs to be disciplined, severely.
Not true that the SSPX thinks the revised rite of ordination is invalid. I have a very close friend who is a priest in the Society. The SSPX requires a re-ordination” for Novus Ordo priests who join NOT because they believe the rite is invalid but because the state of the episcopate is so dire that they can no longer assume that the the ordaining bishop has the correct intention to ordain. And also because so many liberties and liturgical abuses are taken on a regular basis that validity is a concern because words are changed at will regularly. This is why unchecked liturgical abuse is deadly.
Ask your friend what Tissier thought about this issue and how that impacted what the SSPX did. Or just Google it for yourself and read what he wrote and said. This isn’t secret information.
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