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Thursday, February 19, 2026

ANOTHER MAJOR CHALLENGE FROM THE FSSPX, THIS TIME FOR POPE LEO XIV…WILL THEY BE DECLARED IN SCHISM AGAIN WITH RENEWED EXCOMMUNICATIONS

Of course, Pope Leo is an Augustinian. As an Augustinian, his religious order had to contend with the Augustinian priest, Fr.  Martin Luther’s schism, rebellion that led to the Protestant rebellion which had worldwide ramifications for divisions in the Church. 

Where will Pope Leo go with this? Time will tell.


Letter from Father Pagliarani to Cardinal Fernández

Response of the General Council of the Society of Saint Pius X to the Prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith.

Menzingen, 18 February 2026
Ash Wednesday

Most Reverend Eminence,

First of all, I thank you for receiving me on 12 February, and for making public the content of our meeting, which promotes perfect transparency in communication.

I can only welcome the opening of a doctrinal discussion, as signalled today by the Holy See, for the simple reason that I myself proposed it exactly seven years ago, in a letter dated 17 January 2019.1 At that time, the Dicastery did not truly express interest in such a discussion, on the grounds—presented orally—that a doctrinal agreement between the Holy See and the Society of Saint Pius X was impossible.

For the Society’s part, a doctrinal discussion has always been—and remains—desirable and useful. Indeed, even if we do not reach an agreement, fraternal exchanges allow us to better know one another, to refine and deepen our own arguments, and to better understand the spirit and intentions behind our interlocutor’s positions—especially their genuine love for the Truth, for souls, and for the Church. This holds true, at all times, for both parties.

This was precisely my intention in 2019, when I suggested a discussion during a calm and peaceful time, without the pressure or threat of possible excommunication, which would have undermined free dialogue—as is, unfortunately, the situation today.

That said, while I certainly rejoice at a new opening of dialogue and the positive response to my proposal of 2019, I cannot accept the perspective and objectives in the name of which the Dicastery offers to resume dialogue in the present situation, nor indeed the postponement of the date of 1 July.

I respectfully present to you the reasons for this, to which I will add some supplementary considerations.

  1. We both know in advance that we cannot agree doctrinally, particularly regarding the fundamental orientations adopted since the Second Vatican Council. This disagreement, for the Society’s part, does not stem from a mere difference of opinion, but from a genuine case of conscience, arising from what has proven to be a rupture with the Tradition of the Church. This complex knot has unfortunately become even more inextricable with the doctrinal and pastoral developments of recent pontificates. 

    I therefore do not see how a joint process of dialogue could end in determining together what would constitute “the minimum requirements for full communion with the Catholic Church”, since—as you yourself have recalled with frankness—the texts of the Council cannot be corrected, nor can the legitimacy of the liturgical reform be challenged.

  2. This dialogue is supposed to clarify the interpretation of the Second Vatican Council. But this interpretation is already clearly given in the post-Conciliar period and in the successive documents of the Holy See. The Second Vatican Council is not a set of texts open to free interpretation: It has been received, developed, and applied for sixty years by successive popes, according to precise doctrinal and pastoral orientations.

    This official reading is expressed, for example, in major texts such as Redemptor hominisUt unum sintEvangelii gaudium, or Amoris lætitia. It is also evident in the liturgical reform, understood in the light of the principles reaffirmed in Traditionis custodes. All these documents show that the doctrinal and pastoral framework within which the Holy See intends to situate any discussion has already been firmly established.

  3. One cannot ignore the context of the dialogue proposed today. We have been waiting for seven years for a favourable response to the proposal of doctrinal discussion made in 2019. More recently, we have written twice to the Holy Father: first to request an audience, then to clearly and respectfully explain our needs and the real-life situation of the Society. 

    Yet, after a long silence, it is only when episcopal consecrations are mentioned that an offer to resume dialogue is made, which thus seems dilatory and conditional. Indeed, the hand extended to open the dialogue is unfortunately accompanied by another hand already poised to impose sanctions. There is talk of breaking communion, of schism,2 and of “serious consequences”. Moreover, this threat is now public, creating pressure that is hardly compatible with a genuine desire for fraternal exchanges and constructive dialogue. 

  4. Furthermore, to us it does not seem possible to enter into a dialogue to define what the minimum requirements for ecclesial communion might be, simply because this task does not belong to us. Throughout the centuries, the criteria for belonging to the Church have been established and defined by the Magisterium. What must be believed in order to be Catholic has always been taught with authority, in constant fidelity to Tradition.

    Thus, we do not see how these criteria could be the subject of joint discernment through dialogue, nor how they could be re-evaluated today so as not to correspond to what the Tradition of the Church has always taught—and which we desire to observe faithfully in our place.

  5. Finally, if a dialogue is envisaged with the aim of producing a doctrinal statement that the Society could accept regarding the Second Vatican Council, we cannot ignore the historical precedents of efforts made in this direction. I draw your attention to the most recent: the Holy See and the Society had a long course of dialogue, beginning in 2009, particularly intense for two years, then pursued more sporadically until 6 June 2017. Throughout these years, we sought to achieve what the Dicastery now proposes. 

    Yet, everything ultimately ended in a drastic manner, with the unilateral decision of Cardinal Müller, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, who, in June 2017, solemnly established, in his own way, “the minimum requirements for full communion with the Catholic Church”, explicitly including the entire Council and the post-Conciliar period.3 This shows that, if one persists in a doctrinal dialogue that is too forced and lacks sufficient serenity, in the long term, instead of achieving a satisfactory result, one only worsens the situation.

Thus, in the shared recognition that we cannot find agreement on doctrine, it seems to me that the only point on which we can agree is that of charity toward souls and toward the Church.

As a cardinal and bishop, you are above all a pastor: allow me to address you in this capacity. The Society is an objective reality: it exists. That is why, over the years, the Sovereign Pontiffs have taken note of this existence and, through concrete and significant acts, have recognised the value of the good it can accomplish, despite its canonical situation. That is also why we are speaking today.

This same Society asks you only to be allowed to continue to do this same good for the souls to whom it administers the holy Sacraments. It asks nothing else of you—no privileges, nor even canonical regularisation, which, in the current state of affairs, is impracticable due to doctrinal divergences. The Society cannot abandon souls. The need for the sacraments is a concrete, short-term need for the survival of Tradition, in service to the Holy Catholic Church.

We can agree on one point: neither of us wishes to reopen wounds. I will not repeat here all that we have already expressed in the letter addressed to Pope Leo XIV, of which you have direct knowledge. I only emphasise that, in the present situation, the only truly viable path is that of charity.

Over the last decade, Pope Francis and yourself have abundantly advocated “listening” and understanding of non-standard, complex, exceptional, and particular situations. You have also wished for a use of law that is always pastoral, flexible, and reasonable, without pretending to resolve everything through legal automatism and pre-established frameworks. At this moment, the Society asks of you nothing more than this—and above all it does not ask it for itself: it asks it for these souls, for whom, as already promised to the Holy Father, it has no other intention than to make true children of the Roman Church.

Finally, there is another point on which we also agree, and which should encourage us: the time separating us from 1 July is one of prayer. It is a moment when we implore from Heaven a special grace and, from the Holy See, understanding. I pray for you in particular to the Holy Ghost and—do not take this as a provocation—His Most Holy Spouse, the Mediatrix of all Graces.

I wish to thank you sincerely for the attention you have given me, and for the interest you will kindly take in the present matter.

Please accept, Most Reverend Eminence, the expression of my most sincere greetings and of my devotion in the Lord.

Davide Pagliarani, Superior General
+ Alfonso de Galarreta, First Assistant General
Christian Bouchacourt, Second Assistant General
+ Bernard Fellay, First Counsellor General, Former Superior General
Franz Schmidberger, Second Counsellor General, Former Superior General

Annex I: Letter from Father Pagliarani to Bishop Pozzo, 17 January 2019
Annex II: Order and Jurisdiction: The Futility of the Schism Accusation
Annex III: Letter from Cardinal Müller to Bishop Fellay, 6 June 2017

  • 1

    Cf. Annex I.

  • 2

    The Society, however, defends itself against any accusation of schism and, relying on all traditional theology and the Church's constant teaching, maintains that an episcopal consecration not authorised by the Holy See does not constitute a rupture of communion—provided it is not accompanied by schismatic intent or the conferral of jurisdiction. Cf. Annex II.

  • 3

    Cf. Annex III.

19 comments:

TJM said...

I'd rather have them in my camp instead of the German bishops. The Catholic Church is bending over backwards to accommodate perverts and weirdos, but cannot find a way to accommodate the FSSPX? Vatican II was carried out in the most radical way, repudiating Tradition. Popes Benedict recognized this reality, hence Summorum Pontificum, which was a polite way of saying we botched it. FSSPX has a point. Reform should be in continuity with Tradition.

William said...

Seen as a pastoral Council gives FSSPPX some wiggle room; let's hope and pray that Pope Leo sees it that way.

Marc said...

Wow. That is an unexpectedly vehement response!

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

Yes. Vehement and also strident and arrogant. But they are more in full communion with the Church than the Anglicans, baptists and other Protestants and so called non denominationals

Marc said...

The tension for the SSPX leadership is that there are different factions in their ranks, ranging from die-hard never talk to Rome folks to people who are fine with the Novus Ordo. And I mean these factions exist among their clergy and the laity.

So it’s surprising to me they have taken such a bold approach to this.

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

"...they are more in full communion with the Church than the Anglicans, baptists and other Protestants..." Which makes them all the more dangerous to the Faith.

TJM said...

FSSPX is more in full communion with Rome than large swathes clergy like the German bishops

TJM said...

Father McDonald, Bishop Schneider weighs in on this matter. His statements make a great deal of sense.

https://infovaticana.com/en/2026/02/19/bishop-schneider-responds-to-tucho-about-the-fsspx-the-pastoral-documents-of-vatican-ii-can-be-corrected-only-the-word-of-god-is-immutable/

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

In the city of your birth and current pastoral ministry, there are more former Catholics who are members of Compassion Christian Church than in your parish. And the FSSPX are all the more dangerous to the Faith? I had no idea that you had such a great sense of humor!

TJM said...

K is a really a laugh a minute. Hey, he's just doing to the Catholic Church what his Party is doing to Christianity! Take a look at this!

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2026/02/19/heathens-democrat-party-lambasted-for-ignoring-christianitys-ash-wednesday-to-highlight-islamic-and-chinese-traditions/

TJM said...

Great Summary from a commenter at Father Z’s



From an outsider’s perspective, the SSPX does not appear to be acting unreasonably. If anything, given how lax and relaxed the Vatican has been with all manners of heretics, liturgical abusers, Muslims, abortionists, and flat-out perverts and deviants of every stripe, often bending over backwards so as not to offend them or to keep opening up “dialogues” with absolutely no pre-conditions, it comes across as uncharacteristically and unjustifiably rigid in demanding the SSPX swear to not even plan to consecrate any more bishops before agreeing to “continue dialoguing” with them.

The only justification I’ve heard from those supporting Cardinal Tucho in this exchange is the same line of argument that defended every objectively horrible thing Pope Francis ever did or said: “Who you gonna believe? The Pope and the Vatican or your own lying eyes?”

I believe Tucho (and many others) believe what he said about the V2 documents, though. Not one jot, not one tittle, not one iota of V2 shall pass away until the last of these wretched revolutionaries has left leadership positions in the Catholic Church. They truly and sincerely hold their Spirit of Vatican II well above Scripture itself, let alone anything like previous Magisterial teachings or Sacred Tradition. This is a “Sola V2” mindset, and it is an immovable object so far as they are concerned.

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

"In the city of your birth and current pastoral ministry, there are more former Catholics who are members of Compassion Christian Church than in your parish. And the FSSPX are all the more dangerous to the Faith?"

Yeppers.

"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer" is a famous idiom advising that one should monitor rivals even more closely than allies to anticipate threats, understand their motivations, and prevent surprise attacks.

Think about it for a few minutes, rather than reacting as you are wont to do.

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

Be that as it may, ordaining bishops without papal approval is an act of schism and the bishops doing it and those ordained are excommunicated. The heterodox left as a large group haven’t gone that far. If a bishop attempted “ordination “ of a woman they too would be excommunicated.

TJM said...

K you ceased being a faithful Catholic long ago - abortion as healthcare.

Sophia said...

You are correct Father Mc Donald re incurring excommunication but I would like to add a point of clarification! Although both are subject to “ excommunication”, nonetheless there is no actual equivalency here! In the case of the SSPX, their Ordination would not lead to excommunication if the Vatican gave permission for it! In the case of female Ordination, the Vatican cannot give permission! Women cannot be ordained under any circumstances - “ maleness” is a strict requirement/ permanent norm for the valid reception of Holy Orders!
https://www.catholic.com/qa/the-most-recent-ex-cathedra-statement

And consequently the SSPX excommunication could be easily reversed by a stroke of Pope Leo’s pen” so to speak - and just as importantly - the Bishops who were ordained would become licit- they would already have been validly ordained!!! There is already an example of this! “Pope Benedict XVl lifted the 1988 excommunications of four SSPX bishops in 2009”!

https://www.google.com/search?q=if+the+SSPX+ordains+Bishops+without+Vatican+Approval%2C+incurring+excommunication+%2C+can+the+Vatican+reverse+the+excommunication+simply+by+simply+lifting+the+excommunication%3F&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

Not so the female
“ bishops” who would never have been actual bishops to begin with!!!


TJM said...

Sophia, you made an excellent distinction! Bravo!

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

As a Georgian did you know of this group of martyrs? I did not, and I went to Catholic schools from Kindergarten through Law School.

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/georgia-martyrs-killed-for-defending-marriage-to-be-beatified-in-u-s-this-october

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

TJM - The cause of the five Georgia martyrs began in 1950 and was officially opened in our diocese in 1981. Scholars from the American Museum of Natural History, located in New York City, your favorite place, began the archeological work on St. Catherine's Island. A description of their work can be found here: https://www.amnh.org/explore/news-blogs/st-catherines-island-discovery

And this is our diocesan website on the martyrs: https://thegeorgiamartyrs.org/

Sophia said...

Thank you TJM!