That aside, to me, I would think it significant that Francis confirmed that which Benedict XVI confirmed/did in 2009. At least he positively acknowledged his predecessor.
What that means for the average pew-sitter remains to be seen, I suppose.
I hate to say this, but we need to find out if the Pope’s lips were moving when he spoke to the Bishop. There is always an ulterior motive with this man.
Pope Francis, from his days in Argentina to date, has, in tremendous fashion, has been a spiritual father, as well friend, to the SSPX.
Popes Saint Paul VI, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI, made holy, tremendous efforts, to have kept Archbishop Lefebvre/SSPX from having plunged into serious errors...to have kept the Society from having incurred irregular status.
Pope Francis has accomplished the impossible in regard to his interactions with the SSPX.
That is, Pope Francis has topped the holy, tremendous efforts, of the above-mentioned Popes in regard to Papal interactions with the SSPX.
Conversely, it has been such Churchmen as Cardinals Burke, Müller, Pell (requiescant in pace), as well as others, who have spoken in hardline fashion against the SSPX.
Examples:
Cardinal Burke: "[T]he fact of the matter is that the Priestly Society of St. Pius X is in schism since the late Abp. Marcel Lefebvre ordained four bishops without the mandate of the Roman Pontiff.
"And so it is not legitimate to attend Mass or to receive the sacraments in a church that's under the direction of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X."
Cardinal Müller: "The canonical excommunication of the bishops for their illegal ordinations was revoked, but a de facto sacramental excommunication remains for their schism; they put themselves out of communion with the Church.
"After that we are not closing the door and never will, but we are inviting them to be reconciled. But they too must change their attitude, accept the conditions of the Catholic Church, and the Supreme Pontiff as the definitive criterion for membership."
To their great shame, the SSPX trashed Popes Saints Paul VI, John Paul II, as well as Benedict XVI, and Francis, each of whom had gone overboard in holy fashion to have prevented Archbishop Lefebvre/SSPX from having incurred serious doctrinal errors...from having broken full-communion with the True Church.
In light of the above, I wonder as to the SSPX's level of desire to obtain full-communion with the Pope?
Despite our holy Popes' gallant efforts in question, Archbishop Lefebvre had denounced Popes Saints Paul VI, as well as John Paul II, as "apostates."
With the approval of then-SSPX Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay, Father Regis de Cacqueray, then-District Superior of France, denounced Pope Benedict XVI as having been guilty of "dreadful blasphemy toward God."
-- Cardinal Pell defends Pope Francis, criticizes Bp. Fellay and SSPX
Gerard O’Connell: "Bishop Fellay has denounced Pope Francis as “a genuine modernist”, and charged that while the Church was “a disaster” before he was elected, he is making it “10,000 times worse”. What do you say to this?"
Cardinal Pell: "To put it politely, I think that’s absolute rubbish! Francis said he’s a loyal son of the Church, and his record shows that.
"He’s very, very concerned for the day-to-day life of the people, and for those who are suffering, those not well off and those in difficult situations.
"He’s a completely faithful exponent of Christ’s teaching and the Church’s tradition."
Gerard O’Connell: "So people like Fellay have completely misread Pope Francis?"
Cardinal Pell: "Yes, it is a gigantic misreading! In actual fact, the Lefebvrists – many of them – have misread the situation for decades. It was to Benedict’s great credit that he tried to reconcile with them, but they didn’t respond."
Decades ago, Cardinal Castrillon confirmed that although Archbishop Lefebvre might have committed a schismatic act, the SSPX WAS NOT in a state of schism. He even went so far as to say that a Catholic could attend Mass at one of their chapels and even leave a donation, so long as one's personal intent was not to leave the Catholic Church.
This was before the highly questionable excommunications were lifted.
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Wow can this guy talk.
This could be reduced in length by 2/3.
That aside, to me, I would think it significant that Francis confirmed that which Benedict XVI confirmed/did in 2009. At least he positively acknowledged his predecessor.
What that means for the average pew-sitter remains to be seen, I suppose.
@ByzRus 😂
I hate to say this, but we need to find out if the Pope’s lips were moving when he spoke to the Bishop. There is always an ulterior motive with this man.
Pope Francis, from his days in Argentina to date, has, in tremendous fashion, has been a spiritual father, as well friend, to the SSPX.
Popes Saint Paul VI, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI, made holy, tremendous efforts, to have kept Archbishop Lefebvre/SSPX from having plunged into serious errors...to have kept the Society from having incurred irregular status.
Pope Francis has accomplished the impossible in regard to his interactions with the SSPX.
That is, Pope Francis has topped the holy, tremendous efforts, of the above-mentioned Popes in regard to Papal interactions with the SSPX.
Conversely, it has been such Churchmen as Cardinals Burke, Müller, Pell (requiescant in pace), as well as others, who have spoken in hardline fashion against the SSPX.
Examples:
Cardinal Burke: "[T]he fact of the matter is that the Priestly Society of St. Pius X is in schism since the late Abp. Marcel Lefebvre ordained four bishops without the mandate of the Roman Pontiff.
"And so it is not legitimate to attend Mass or to receive the sacraments in a church that's under the direction of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X."
Cardinal Müller: "The canonical excommunication of the bishops for their illegal ordinations was revoked, but a de facto sacramental excommunication remains for their schism; they put themselves out of communion with the Church.
"After that we are not closing the door and never will, but we are inviting them to be reconciled. But they too must change their attitude, accept the conditions of the Catholic Church, and the Supreme Pontiff as the definitive criterion for membership."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
To their great shame, the SSPX trashed Popes Saints Paul VI, John Paul II, as well as Benedict XVI, and Francis, each of whom had gone overboard in holy fashion to have prevented Archbishop Lefebvre/SSPX from having incurred serious doctrinal errors...from having broken full-communion with the True Church.
In light of the above, I wonder as to the SSPX's level of desire to obtain full-communion with the Pope?
Despite our holy Popes' gallant efforts in question, Archbishop Lefebvre had denounced Popes Saints Paul VI, as well as John Paul II, as "apostates."
With the approval of then-SSPX Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay, Father Regis de Cacqueray, then-District Superior of France, denounced Pope Benedict XVI as having been guilty of "dreadful blasphemy toward God."
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-- Cardinal Pell defends Pope Francis, criticizes Bp. Fellay and SSPX
Gerard O’Connell: "Bishop Fellay has denounced Pope Francis as “a genuine modernist”, and charged that while the Church was “a disaster” before he was elected, he is making it “10,000 times worse”. What do you say to this?"
Cardinal Pell: "To put it politely, I think that’s absolute rubbish! Francis said he’s a loyal son of the Church, and his record shows that.
"He’s very, very concerned for the day-to-day life of the people, and for those who are suffering, those not well off and those in difficult situations.
"He’s a completely faithful exponent of Christ’s teaching and the Church’s tradition."
=============================================================================
Gerard O’Connell: "So people like Fellay have completely misread Pope Francis?"
Cardinal Pell: "Yes, it is a gigantic misreading! In actual fact, the Lefebvrists – many of them – have misread the situation for decades. It was to Benedict’s great credit that he tried to reconcile with them, but they didn’t respond."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
This is only news for low information Catholics.
Decades ago, Cardinal Castrillon confirmed that although Archbishop Lefebvre might have committed a schismatic act, the SSPX WAS NOT in a state of schism. He even went so far as to say that a Catholic could attend Mass at one of their chapels and even leave a donation, so long as one's personal intent was not to leave the Catholic Church.
This was before the highly questionable excommunications were lifted.
Enough already
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