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Wednesday, March 26, 2025

THE STILL LIVING AGING CABAL OF THE TRIUMPHALISM OF THE IMMEDEIATE POST-VATICAN II PERIOD, LACK NOT ONLY COMMON SENSE BUT THE VIRTUE TO FIX WHAT THEY BROKE. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF NOSTALGIA FOR 1964 THROUGH 1977! THEY LOVE THE TRIUMPHALISM OF THAT PERIOD DESPITE THE FAILED EXPERIEMNT OF THEIR PROGRESSIVE AGENDA


Rorate Caeli posts a commentary by Archbishop Hector Aguer which I re-post below. What he says about Argentina can be said of most first world countries including the USA.

Pope Benedict XVI understood very well what Archbishop Aguer points out. Pope Francis, however, still lives in that time when everyone in the hierarchy believed that Vatican II would lead to a new springtime of the Church. But even Saint Pope Paul VI began to realize that this wasn't the case and he knew it only a brief time after the Council. Unfortunately, he grew old, feeble and depressed about so many things in the Church, world and his own life, that he was impotent to change the trajectory of the progressive movement to change the Catholic Church into something she shouldn't be.

Those who are these 1960's progressives are in fact pre-Vatican II Triumphalists. They apply this triumphalism, though, to Vatican II as they interpreted it, in discontinuity with what the Church was in 1962 when Vatican II began.

They are, in reality pre-Vatican II triumphalists and can't admit how wrong they were and still are. It is so sad to say the least.

However, with the papal Conclave soon to begin, maybe sane voices of the Pope Benedict XVI  school of thought will prevail and a new pope will know what went wrong and how to fix it. Common sense about these things will help too! 

From Rorate Caeli:

The Decadence of the Church and the Francis Pontificate - by Archbishop Héctor Agüer


 Archbishop Héctor Agüer
Emeritus of La Plata, Argentina
Buenos Aires, March 25, 2025


Twelve years of Francis' pontificate have just been celebrated. The Vatican reports are always self-congratulatory. 

It is very difficult to cover, in a single appraisal, the reality of the Church, which is vast and with differences between countries -- but from a certain point it is possible to contemplate the surroundings; I can do it, then, from this corner of the far south that is Argentina, a nation that is (or was?) mostly Catholic. As the saying goes, “one button is example enough."

 
       The decadence of the Church is evident. The bishops live up in their own clouds. The seminaries are populated by young people whose number can be counted on the fingers of one hand. There is even one seminary, a hundred years old, in which in this 2025, not a single seminarian entered! Vocations are not showing up. The command of Christ (“make disciples of all nations - pánta ta éthne - to be my disciples”) has yet to be fulfilled. Where are the apostles? The people are bewildered; many of the faithful long for better times.

 I think that two laments of Pope Paul VI are still valid: “We expected - after the Second Vatican Council - a flourishing springtime and a harsh winter came”; “through some crack the smoke of Satan has seeped into the temple of God.” The ecclesial presence in society is closely limited; journalists notice it, because they recognize, with a historical outlook, that, in our country, the Catholic Church has always been something official. We are considered a Catholic country. But baptisms do not exist; the birth rate in Argentina has plummeted: in 2023, with 460,902 births, the lowest figure of the last 50 years has been registered! And marriage no longer exists, now there are just “couples.” The public presence of the Church is non-existent; it only filters in the journalistic order only if it makes political judgments, especially against the government.

The Church must occupy herself with her specific task: to make Christians out of men and women, to imbue their conduct with the commands of Scripture and Tradition, and to lead them to Heaven. The successive crises of the clergy have had a detrimental effect, above all because they increase the alienation of society from the Christian ideal. There is no Christian culture; Catholic universities include a partial theological information, but they do not fulfill their main function, which is to make the Church present in the Argentine society, that is to say, to create a Christian culture. I do not know of Catholic thinkers who stand out, as, for example, Carlos Sacheri; murdered in 1974, as he was leaving Mass, in San Isidro, in front of his wife and seven children, by terrorists of the People's Revolutionary Army (ERP).

 The Statistical Yearbook of the Church has just been published, with figures corresponding to the 2022-2023 biennium. It is revealed in it that the number of bishops has increased: from 5353 in 2022 to 5430 in 2023. At the same time, the number of priests has decreased: at the end of 2023, there were 406,996 priests worldwide, a decrease of 734 compared to 2022. And, in the case of seminarians, the situation is more than worrisome: there has been a sustained drop since 2012; and it has gone from 108,481, in 2022, to 106,495, in 2023. In other words: the number of priests and seminarians is decreasing, while the number of bishops is growing! In Argentina we also have an inflation of these: in the last twelve years the number of auxiliary bishops has multiplied. And there are dioceses in which the number of bishops exceeds or equals the number of seminarians.

       As a Catholic, I believe in the Church and I love her; I want to see her flourish. I pray for her and for the Supreme Pontiff; for the health of his body and, above all, his soul. Sixty years after the closing of Vatican II, it is time to face reality. The “Church on the move,” in search of those who do not know Christ, or have distanced themselves from Him, must not be a “Church on the run” from her own essence and mission.


10 comments:

ByzRus said...

Cue and avalanche of comments we've heard before regarding 1) Cultural/Societal shift and 2) Holy, holy, holy this and that.

From my Eastern vantagepoint, I continue awaiting the grownups in the room to acknowledge failure and course correct. I suspect I'll have more of a wait until the passage of time starts to heal the wound.

IF this was a business, and to some extent it must be governed as such, it would have failed years ago and/or heads would have rolled. How it has been allowed to continue while demanding people's treasure is amazing to witness. Increasingly, the treasure is shrinking if you look at how certain diocese are tanking financially.

Behold the fruits of the Council: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQKFF-tXI7uFSD4noFItLXI13wCjybXiDrBEg&s
I will go unto the altar of........wait, it's there but our Lord is no longer present....

In places, they are still planning to talk/listen as to why Catholics have lapsed. I suspect conversations will centralize around 1) better homiletics, 2) better music/musak 3) more meetings despite that not being the central role of a liturgical tradition and 4) activities which have their place. Most will want to hear what they want to hear and ignore that which they don't. But, fill out questionnaires again and meet again then file it all away as job done!

I'll stop as I've said most before. It just amazes me, however.

TJM said...

Well said, ByzRus!

rcg said...

Fr AJM please explain the second and third paragraphs of your lead commentary wrt triumphalism. I'm trying to follow but am missing something. (No pun intended)

TJM said...

I see Tulsi Gabbard is calling out Islamic terrorism while the Vatican and the USCCB are rather mute. I guess they are focused on President Trump who is working to deporting and/or keeping them out of the US!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/tulsi-gabbard-speaks-against-persecution-christians-hindus-bangladesh/

TJM said...

Mark J,

I recall you studied in Germany and I assume you are fluent in the language. This shows how corrupt the German Church has become and when some clown from the Vatican tries to suppress the TLM, they should be forced at gunpoint to watch this:


https://x.com/CatholicArena/status/1905328689564287102

ByzRus said...

Dude - This guy has zero street cred. Lame and yet another "Behold the fruits" moment.

Fr. David Evans said...

The ‘cabal’ do not understand the difference between humility and humiliation. For to admit they are wrong requires humility, but for them to do that, they would consider it humiliation.

ByzRus said...

Completely agree, Fr. It too shall come to pass. The institution is perfect despite its current stewards and will, of course, never fail even if they cause it to falter.

Mark said...

Can anyone provide the occasion, date, and location, as well as the identity of the person concerned? I am unable to track it down.

Mark J.

TJM said...

Mark J,

I found this on Father Z’s Blog yesterday. There may be some clues there