Does that schedule hold through Roman civic holidays, and if it doesn't, what is the civic holiday schedule, and what are the observed civic holidays for the next 6 months?
That probably will not happen, though, as I expect a swift victory for the sharply dressed admin. class, and holy be damned, so long as he avoids any firm (and therefore controversial) stance on anything at all, as what REALLY matters to the Church, and is its prime mission, is the false appearance of unity.
I almost hope it's a long conclave to force the needs of the people to circumvent ideology. I was reading on FB the dismal state of the diocese of Rome. Yes, the diocese of Rome. If these electors don't wake up to reality, none of what they are trying to physically preserve will be necessary. Just go back to the catacombs.
I am actually very excited by the conclave, far, far more than any Super Bowl, despite my team of a younger, strong, deeply spiritual Pope who actually KNOWS God and defends ancient teachings out of that knowledge being a 185 point underdog at the half. The excitement more akin to having a ticket for a Powerball drawing for $959 trillion dollars, except smaller odds of winning.
I just copied this from FB. Among the myriad of challenges facing the Catholic Church, only the Romans would do this:
"Our weekly fully sung parish TLM was flourishing until a handful of disgruntled locals complained to our Archbishop. Whilst he mercifully permitted Low Masses to continue and requested the now-necessary permissions from Rome, he nevertheless banned all music, sung or played, at TLM. So no singing the Lord’s praises for the past four years.
In a private audience he explained — insofar as I was able to understand it— that this was so that the TLM was not more attractive than the official parish principal (NO) Sunday Mass. So implicit acknowledgement that he himself considered our sung Masses more attractive. But it seems we don’t want to attract people to Mass. Who’d have guessed!
Meanwhile the parish is projected to run out of money next month …"
And let me "predict" that whatever man is elected will NOT have restoring even the option of the TLM on his to-do list...and his motto will be, "Do nothing to inflame liberal press (as we have enough problems, already)."
I watched some of EWTN's coverage today. I was uplifted by numerous comments that the panel had lifted. I had "changed channels" once. I somehow happened upon Michael Matt's radtrad commentary. He was in Saint Peter's Square espousing nonsense. I bailed on him in rapid fashion.
Deo volente, I will return tomorrow to EWTN's coverage, which I am confident will prove uplifting.
In regard to the Conclave: What an amazing time for Holy Mother Church, as well as the world. God will gift us with a Pontiff whom He has raised to teach, govern, and sanctify us.
It is wonderful and comforting to contemplate that our soon-to-be Pope will, as Pope Venerable Pius XII taught, be blessed with "the supernatural gifts of knowledge, understanding and wisdom."
Since we seem to be dealing with a broken record, I'm shamelessly stealing Bob's comment:
Mark, simply to illustrate your pathological dishonesty in cherry picking out-of-context quotes to ascribe super-powers to the Pope alone, the full quote of Pius XII you inaccurately cite reads...
"...it is He who enriches pastors AND teachers AND above all His Vicar on earth with the supernatural gifts of knowledge, understanding and wisdom, so that THEY may loyally preserve the treasury of faith, defend it vigorously..."
AND you utterly omit from the same document...
"And if at times there appears in the Church something that indicates the weakness of our human nature, it should not be attributed to her juridical constitution, but rather to that regrettable inclination to evil found in each individual, which its Divine Founder permits even at times in the most exalted members of His Mystical Body, for the purpose of testing the virtue of the Shepherds no less than of the flocks, and that all may increase the merit of their Christian faith."
You, as always, also fail to account for anything countering your chosen narrative. Remember that “the head of the Church is Christ, not the Pope”; “the figure of the Pope is praised too much. One risks falling into the cult of personality”' and “the Pope is not an oracle, he is infallible only on very rare occasions[.]” But I suppose these words are horrible Satanic attacks the likes of that horrible Rorate Caeli would hurl at the holy, holy, holy of his holiness who is God's mouthpiece on Earth and can never make any mistakes because God chose him specifically, whoever he is.
You also ignore that the gifts of God, such as knowledge, understanding, and wisdom, avail us only to the extent we cooperate with them--even the pope. It is not automatic. God does not remove free will--even the pope's.
Again, Mister Cherry Picking Last Comment (you hope), your cherry picking is misleading on papal super powers by not showing entire quote,
"it is He who enriches pastors and teachers and above all His Vicar on earth with the supernatural gifts of knowledge, understanding and wisdom, so that they may loyally preserve the treasury of faith, defend it vigorously,"
and which papal document also.contains,
"And if at times there appears in the Church something that indicates the weakness of our human nature, it should not be attributed to her juridical constitution, but rather to that regrettable inclination to evil found in each individual, which its Divine Founder permits even at times IN THE MOST EXALTED MEMBERS of His Mystical Body, for the purpose of testing the virtue of the Shepherds no less than of the flocks, and that all may increase the merit of their Christian faith."
16 comments:
Does that schedule hold through Roman civic holidays, and if it doesn't, what is the civic holiday schedule, and what are the observed civic holidays for the next 6 months?
That probably will not happen, though, as I expect a swift victory for the sharply dressed admin. class, and holy be damned, so long as he avoids any firm (and therefore controversial) stance on anything at all, as what REALLY matters to the Church, and is its prime mission, is the false appearance of unity.
I'm not hanging on the coverage.
I almost hope it's a long conclave to force the needs of the people to circumvent ideology. I was reading on FB the dismal state of the diocese of Rome. Yes, the diocese of Rome. If these electors don't wake up to reality, none of what they are trying to physically preserve will be necessary. Just go back to the catacombs.
I am actually very excited by the conclave, far, far more than any Super Bowl, despite my team of a younger, strong, deeply spiritual Pope who actually KNOWS God and defends ancient teachings out of that knowledge being a 185 point underdog at the half. The excitement more akin to having a ticket for a Powerball drawing for $959 trillion dollars, except smaller odds of winning.
From what little coverage that I've seen, unity was emphasized at the opening mass, not truth.
Unity in what? Jesus Christ, the eucharist, truths as understood by Catholics is what one would hopefully and reasonably expect to hear.
Are the electors too focused on unity in their ideals, social/worldly and, perhaps unsavory? Time will tell.
Unity in Hell? Our greatest Saints were consumed by truth and holiness, not unity.
Likely Cardinal Re or a pal, very much Francis clique, so.....no suprise much to "staying the (Francis)course equals unity" propaganda from that camp.
Well, black smoke today means "no pope".....of course, given many put forward as candidates, white smoke could mean the same thing.
I just copied this from FB. Among the myriad of challenges facing the Catholic Church, only the Romans would do this:
"Our weekly fully sung parish TLM was flourishing until a handful of disgruntled locals complained to our Archbishop. Whilst he mercifully permitted Low Masses to continue and requested the now-necessary permissions from Rome, he nevertheless banned all music, sung or played, at TLM. So no singing the Lord’s praises for the past four years.
In a private audience he explained — insofar as I was able to understand it— that this was so that the TLM was not more attractive than the official parish principal (NO) Sunday Mass. So implicit acknowledgement that he himself considered our sung Masses more attractive. But it seems we don’t want to attract people to Mass. Who’d have guessed!
Meanwhile the parish is projected to run out of money next month …"
And let me "predict" that whatever man is elected will NOT have restoring even the option of the TLM on his to-do list...and his motto will be, "Do nothing to inflame liberal press (as we have enough problems, already)."
ByzRus,
If this isn’t the smoke of Satan, I don’t know what is. More evidence of the spiritual and intellectual bankruptcy of the Catholic hierarchy
I watched some of EWTN's coverage today. I was uplifted by numerous comments that the panel had lifted. I had "changed channels" once. I somehow happened upon Michael Matt's radtrad commentary. He was in Saint Peter's Square espousing nonsense. I bailed on him in rapid fashion.
Deo volente, I will return tomorrow to EWTN's coverage, which I am confident will prove uplifting.
In regard to the Conclave: What an amazing time for Holy Mother Church, as well as the world. God will gift us with a Pontiff whom He has raised to teach, govern, and sanctify us.
It is wonderful and comforting to contemplate that our soon-to-be Pope will, as Pope Venerable Pius XII taught, be blessed with "the supernatural gifts of knowledge, understanding and wisdom."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Another MT Suit barf alert
Since we seem to be dealing with a broken record, I'm shamelessly stealing Bob's comment:
Mark, simply to illustrate your pathological dishonesty in cherry picking out-of-context quotes to ascribe super-powers to the Pope alone, the full quote of Pius XII you inaccurately cite reads...
"...it is He who enriches pastors AND teachers AND above all His Vicar on earth with the supernatural gifts of knowledge, understanding and wisdom, so that THEY may loyally preserve the treasury of faith, defend it vigorously..."
AND you utterly omit from the same document...
"And if at times there appears in the Church something that indicates the weakness of our human nature, it should not be attributed to her juridical constitution, but rather to that regrettable inclination to evil found in each individual, which its Divine Founder permits even at times in the most exalted members of His Mystical Body, for the purpose of testing the virtue of the Shepherds no less than of the flocks, and that all may increase the merit of their Christian faith."
Nick
And, for giggles, myself:
You, as always, also fail to account for anything countering your chosen narrative. Remember that “the head of the Church is Christ, not the Pope”; “the figure of the Pope is praised too much. One risks falling into the cult of personality”' and “the Pope is not an oracle, he is infallible only on very rare occasions[.]” But I suppose these words are horrible Satanic attacks the likes of that horrible Rorate Caeli would hurl at the holy, holy, holy of his holiness who is God's mouthpiece on Earth and can never make any mistakes because God chose him specifically, whoever he is.
You also ignore that the gifts of God, such as knowledge, understanding, and wisdom, avail us only to the extent we cooperate with them--even the pope. It is not automatic. God does not remove free will--even the pope's.
Nick
Again, Mister Cherry Picking Last Comment (you hope), your cherry picking is misleading on papal super powers by not showing entire quote,
"it is He who enriches pastors and teachers and above all His Vicar on earth with the supernatural gifts of knowledge, understanding and wisdom, so that they may loyally preserve the treasury of faith, defend it vigorously,"
and which papal document also.contains,
"And if at times there appears in the Church something that indicates the weakness of our human nature, it should not be attributed to her juridical constitution, but rather to that regrettable inclination to evil found in each individual, which its Divine Founder permits even at times IN THE MOST EXALTED MEMBERS of His Mystical Body, for the purpose of testing the virtue of the Shepherds no less than of the flocks, and that all may increase the merit of their Christian faith."
More like the ancient proverb, "A closed mouth gathers no foot."
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